# HTML Problem
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/html-problem/138121
**Category:** Factual Questions
**Created:** [November 22, 2002, 9:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/html-problem/138121 "2002-11-22T09:00:56Z")
**Posts on this page:** 9
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### Author:  [@Duderdude2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duderdude2)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2002, 9:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/html-problem/138121/1 "2002-11-22T09:00:56Z")
On this page…
[http://www.gamexplain.com/](http://www.gamexplain.com/) (click F.A.Q. and look at the top frame)
…there’s quite a lot of dead space above the images. I can’t seem to reduce it. Anyone know why this is?
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### Author:  [@the\_duke\_69](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_duke_69)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2002, 9:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/html-problem/138121/2 "2002-11-22T09:20:57Z")
What browser are you using…I am on IE 6 and everything is ok…
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### Author:  [@Duderdude2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duderdude2)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2002, 9:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/html-problem/138121/3 "2002-11-22T09:24:45Z")
I’m using 6 too…it’s not that it’s a ton of space, but there’s (roughly) a 10-pixel space above the images I’d like to fill up.
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### Author:  [@the\_duke\_69](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_duke_69)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2002, 9:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/html-problem/138121/4 "2002-11-22T09:26:44Z")
ok what do you use to prog your html, notepad or a cheater like front page?
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### Author:  [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2002, 9:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/html-problem/138121/5 "2002-11-22T09:27:30Z")
I had a look at your HTML, and on all the pages you have omitted the \ tag. As a rule, all HTML code that isn’t in the \ tags should be between \ tags - thus:
```auto
bla bla bla
Everything else goes here.
```
Once you have the body tag in place, you can can adjust the page’s margin - this takes several different attributes depending on browser. To catch them all, this will do it:
```auto
```
Then you can adjust the pictures’ positioning using your table.
BTW I notice those links target the wrong frame (i.e. their own one). Persoally I am really opposed to frames, as they cause almighty hassle in so many ways (too many to go into here), but if you do use them you need to be careful of which frame you’re putting the new URL into.
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### Author:  [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2002, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/html-problem/138121/6 "2002-11-22T09:29:03Z")
Sorry, substitute “topmargin” for “rightmargin” (this is NS4.x specific).
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### Author:  [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2002, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/html-problem/138121/7 "2002-11-22T10:11:03Z")
Just another comment - hope you don’t mind my constructive criticism - is there any point in making the central frame so small? Making prospects have to operate a fiddly scroll bar to read the next paragraph might annoy them. If I were designing the site, I’d make the screen compatible an 800x600 display, and make the central frame as big as possible within this size. You don’t want to make people work too hard.
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### Author:  [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2002, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/html-problem/138121/8 "2002-11-22T10:30:58Z")
It seems to me that you are still firmly in “beginner” mode, yet desire to do funky stuff with Web Design.
Allow me to lead you to the wide world known as the Web, where there are many more appropriate places for you to ask HTML related questions, of all levels of sophistication, for beginners through to experts.
A shining example:
[http://www.htmlforums.com/](http://www.htmlforums.com/)
**Guano’s Tips Of The Day:** Register. Ask lots of questions. But first, use their search engine, as your questions may already be answered. And learn CSS.
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### Author:  [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2002, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/html-problem/138121/11 "2002-11-22T16:48:33Z")
> [@](#):
>
> \*Originally posted by Diadem Diadoze \*
> \*\*Is there any place people stay underwater for long periods?
> Sort of an ocean Biodome?
> Or even some industrial or civil engineering thing where bridge crews stay for extended periods while pouring foundations. \*\*
You might try the excellent HTML tutorial at [Webmonky](http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/authoring/html_basics/). It won’t tell you much about living underwater, but it’ll give you a good grounding in the basics of HTML.
(Welcome to the boards, **Diadem** - think you’d better post that again!)