# Huckabee: "Amend the Constitution so it's in God standards" **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 15, 2008, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-amend-the-constitution-so-its-in-god-standards/433622 "2008-01-15T16:27:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2008, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-amend-the-constitution-so-its-in-god-standards/433622/1 "2008-01-15T16:27:58Z")
Huckabee is appearing [more dangerous every day](http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2008/01/15/geist-take-away-charm-huckabees-crackpot): > [@](#): > > I have opponents in this race who do not want to change the Constitution. But I believe it’s a lot easier to change the Constitution than it would be to change the word of the living God. **And that’s what we need to do, to amend the Constitution so it’s in God standards rather than try to change God’s standards so it lines up with some contemporary view of how we treat each other and how we treat the family.** There is a video on that page as well, if (like me) you find that quote difficult to believe. Thank goodness for the long primary process, so we can find out these details before the general election. I think this reveals Huckabee’s glass jaw that the Democrats will smash if he is nominated. ---
**Author:** ![Ganryu\_Kojiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Ganryu\_Kojiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ganryu_Kojiro)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2008, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-amend-the-constitution-so-its-in-god-standards/433622/2 "2008-01-15T16:31:43Z")
You know, I’d heard that he had a theocratic streak, but until now had never really seen it. This frightens the hell out of this particular Roman Catholic. Who’s to say what God’s standards are? His election, if he’s honest about what he stands for, can mean nothing good for religious freedom. ---
**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2008, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-amend-the-constitution-so-its-in-god-standards/433622/3 "2008-01-15T16:37:07Z")
I suppose atheists wouldn’t have any Constitutional protections in a Mike Huckabee America. He’s a crack pot fundamentalist, and I fear what happens if he gets elected. ---
**Author:** ![Cluricaun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cluricaun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cluricaun)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2008, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-amend-the-constitution-so-its-in-god-standards/433622/4 "2008-01-15T16:39:15Z")
Yay! It’s Sharia law for Christians. ---
**Author:** ![Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sophistry_and_Illusion)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2008, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-amend-the-constitution-so-its-in-god-standards/433622/5 "2008-01-15T16:41:25Z")
This is part of why I was arguing [in this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=449358) that the electorate should damn well want to see Huckabee’s sermons he delivered while a preacher, and should punish him politically for refusing to turn them over. This guy wants elements of Christianity written into the Constitution of the United States. It makes it highly relevant what, exactly, he thinks Christianity is all about. I have dark suspicions. Although I would vote against anyone who wanted to establish a theocracy, liberal or conservative. ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2008, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-amend-the-constitution-so-its-in-god-standards/433622/6 "2008-01-15T16:49:36Z")
But he’s just so darn _likeable_. 😃 Good to see him saying this sort of thing on the record. Could be valuable ammunition for the Democrats in the general election. ---
**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2008, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-amend-the-constitution-so-its-in-god-standards/433622/7 "2008-01-15T16:54:34Z")
The Huckster’s narrow religious stance is indeed very frightening. The only good thing about him is that he’s drawing away the nutty bigot vote from Romney, thus splitting the fundamentalists and making it all the more unlikely that either will accomplish anything. ---
**Author:** ![Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sophistry_and_Illusion)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2008, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-amend-the-constitution-so-its-in-god-standards/433622/8 "2008-01-15T17:26:57Z")
[QUOTE=Ponder Stibbons] The Huckster’s narrow religious stance is indeed very frightening. The only good thing about him is that he’s drawing away the nutty bigot vote from Romney, thus splitting the fundamentalists and making it all the more unlikely that either will accomplish anything. [/QUOTE] I doubt if Romney will get much of the nutty bigot vote anyhow, so I don’t think there will be a big split. After all, he ain’t a real Christian. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ea5d25/32.png) [@Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Scrappy_Hero_Pup)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2008, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-amend-the-constitution-so-its-in-god-standards/433622/9 "2008-01-15T17:32:13Z")
This is precisely why the Founders made it difficult to amend the Constitution- so that one person’s beliefs will not become fundamental law unless an assload of people agree with him. I’m personally not worried about Huckabee’s amendment dreams coming to pass, whether he becomes President or not. I have many more immediate concerns over which I can wring my hands. ---
**Author:** ![An\_Arky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/87869e/32.png) [@An\_Arky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Arky)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2008, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-amend-the-constitution-so-its-in-god-standards/433622/10 "2008-01-15T17:34:07Z")
This is why I am throwing my support to Huckabee for the Republican nomination. Who better embodies the spirit of the GOP’s rock-solid conservative values? No messing around with people of suspect ideology like McCain or Giuliani, or cultists like Romney, let’s have someone who understands God like Huckabee. God’s gonna strike down all these sinful homos and athiests, and America, once again a God-fearing country, will stand strong and righteous with a man like him in the White House. GOP Nominee Huckabee. Yeah, throw me in that briar patch… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2008, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-amend-the-constitution-so-its-in-god-standards/433622/11 "2008-01-15T17:42:25Z")
[QUOTE=Sophistry and Illusion] This guy wants elements of Christianity written into the Constitution of the United States. [/QUOTE] There are already elements of Christianity written into the Constitution. > [@](#): > > We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and \*\*secure the Blessings of Liberty \*\* to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. My question is whether the Huckabee Amendments will have to be written in Hebrew. Isn’t that the language whence came the Word (of his God)? ---
**Author:** ![Gaudere](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e495f1/32.png) [@Gaudere](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gaudere)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2008, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-amend-the-constitution-so-its-in-god-standards/433622/12 "2008-01-15T17:47:02Z")
You’re citing “Blessings of Liberty” as proof of Christianity in the constitution?! 😃 If it was “Blessings of God” or better yet “Blessings of Jesus”, you might have something, but “secure the blessings of liberty” just seems to be saying “to secure the benefits and overall awesomeness of liberty.” Unless Christians now worship liberty or something. ---
**Author:** ![Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sophistry_and_Illusion)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2008, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-amend-the-constitution-so-its-in-god-standards/433622/13 "2008-01-15T17:48:38Z")
[QUOTE=Really Not All That Bright] There are already elements of Christianity written into the Constitution. [/QUOTE] Is the phrase “Blessings of Liberty” specifically Christian? Personally, I don’t really remember Jesus or Paul or any of those other types ever getting too worked up about freedom of the press or the right to bear arms, to say nothing about the rights of blacks and women to vote (I’m pretty sure Paul would have opposed the latter). But hey, I don’t claim to be either a Biblical or a Constitutional scholar, so what do I know? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2008, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-amend-the-constitution-so-its-in-god-standards/433622/14 "2008-01-15T17:50:02Z")
[QUOTE=Gaudere] You’re citing “Blessings of Liberty” as proof of Christianity in the constitution?! 😃 If it was “Blessings of God” or better yet “Blessings of Jesus”, you might have something, but “secure the blessings of liberty” just seems to be saying “to secure the benefits and overall awesomeness of liberty.” **Unless Christians now worship liberty or something**. [/QUOTE] \ ---
**Author:** ![Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sophistry_and_Illusion)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2008, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-amend-the-constitution-so-its-in-god-standards/433622/15 "2008-01-15T17:50:33Z")
[QUOTE=Gaudere] Unless Christians now worship liberty or something. [/QUOTE] Yep. You’re perfectly free to do everything Mike Huckabee morally approves of, and nothing else. Enjoy your liberty! ---
**Author:** ![Cluricaun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cluricaun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cluricaun)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2008, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-amend-the-constitution-so-its-in-god-standards/433622/16 "2008-01-15T17:52:11Z")
[QUOTE=Sophistry and Illusion] Yep. You’re perfectly free to do everything Mike Huckabee morally approves of, and nothing else. Enjoy your liberty! [/QUOTE] But knock off that dancing. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2008, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-amend-the-constitution-so-its-in-god-standards/433622/17 "2008-01-15T17:54:15Z")
I didn’t listen to the audio clip, but I wonder if he’s talking specifically about abortion and/or gay marriage, since he talks about “how we treat the family”. Did anyone listen, and are they any clues as to whether he had something particular in mind? This might have been aimed at McCAin, who doesn’t support a constitutional amendment to ban SSM ---
**Author:** ![Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sophistry_and_Illusion)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2008, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-amend-the-constitution-so-its-in-god-standards/433622/18 "2008-01-15T17:54:17Z")
[QUOTE=Cluricaun] But knock off that dancing. [/QUOTE] Preach it! Durn backsliders. [Even Baylor University allows dancing now.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baylor_University#Other_notable_facts) I wonder if it’s not too late for this country. ---
**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2008, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-amend-the-constitution-so-its-in-god-standards/433622/19 "2008-01-15T17:54:21Z")
[QUOTE=Really Not All That Bright] There are already elements of Christianity written into the Constitution. [/QUOTE] Yes, but if you notice, the word “welfare” is right before that, and we all know how Republicans feel about welfare. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2008, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-amend-the-constitution-so-its-in-god-standards/433622/20 "2008-01-15T18:01:38Z")
[QUOTE=John Mace] I didn’t listen to the audio clip, but I wonder if he’s talking specifically about abortion and/or gay marriage, since he talks about “how we treat the family”. Did anyone listen, and are they any clues as to whether he had something particular in mind? This might have been aimed at McCAin, who doesn’t support a constitutional amendment to ban SSM [/QUOTE] Not within the clip presented by MSNBC, but Willie Geist, the MSNBC commentator who introduced the clip, said Huckabee was speaking about “human life and the definition of marriage.” I 'm not sure what difference that makes, as no amendment should be considered based on how one religion interprets the word of god. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-amend-the-constitution-so-its-in-god-standards/433622.md?page=2)