# Huckabee: "Amend the Constitution so it's in God standards" **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 15, 2008, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-amend-the-constitution-so-its-in-god-standards/433622 "2008-01-15T16:27:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![11811](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/9d8465/32.png) [@11811](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/11811)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2008, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-amend-the-constitution-so-its-in-god-standards/433622/81 "2008-01-17T00:07:52Z")
[QUOTE=Ponder Stibbons] The only good thing about him is that he’s drawing away the nutty bigot vote from Romney, thus splitting the fundamentalists and making it all the more unlikely that either will accomplish anything. [/QUOTE] Oh good! McCain/Giuiliani in 2008! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2008, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-amend-the-constitution-so-its-in-god-standards/433622/82 "2008-01-17T00:36:05Z")
[QUOTE=Clothahump] Why do these religious whackjobs insist on running for office? And why do people even listen to them, much less vote for them? [/QUOTE] Because the people that vote for them are also religious whackjobs? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2008, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-amend-the-constitution-so-its-in-god-standards/433622/83 "2008-01-17T01:49:14Z")
[QUOTE=Der Trihs] …And there’s no more evidence for that than there is for God to exist at all. [/QUOTE] How would it be possible for something that doesn’t exist to change? I mean, dude? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2008, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-amend-the-constitution-so-its-in-god-standards/433622/84 "2008-01-17T02:02:59Z")
God moves in mysterious ways. Especially when he doesn’t exist! ---
**Author:** ![tds1273](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/df705f/32.png) [@tds1273](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tds1273)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2008, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-amend-the-constitution-so-its-in-god-standards/433622/85 "2008-01-17T06:59:19Z")
Jesus on a fucking dinosaur! Yikes. So Supreme Court Justice seats, if any, are likely to open up in the next four to eight years? ---
**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2008, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-amend-the-constitution-so-its-in-god-standards/433622/86 "2008-01-17T07:21:10Z")
> [@marshmallow](#): > > So a POTUS who wanted to turn America into a Christian version of the Taliban would face difficulties unless some weird shit was going down. Not really. Given how much progress our current president has made in 8 years, I think it would only take a couple more bloodthirsty theocratic Presidents, savvy VPs and soulless Congressmen to turn the US into a de facto theocracy. Now, it certainly wouldn’t happen anywhere near as _quickly_ as the Talibanization of Afghanistan happened, and it would take an assload of idiot voters, a handful of megolomaniac ideologues and more than a couple of hanging chads, but I wouldn’t call that “weird shit”, just an unlikely extension of a series of unfortunate fads. > [@Ludovic](#): > > You prefer fundamentalists with a wide stance? Did you hear about the college football star who became a Republican Congressman? He left college as a Tight End, but by the time he left the House he was a Wide Receiver. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2008, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-amend-the-constitution-so-its-in-god-standards/433622/87 "2008-01-17T11:40:58Z")
In other Huckanews, his newest senior advisor, James Pinkerton, has advocated putting a [cop in front of every mosque](http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/16/pinkerton-mosques/): > [@](#): > > PINKERTON: You asked me what I would do about American Muslims. Answer is\*\* I’d put a cop in front of every mosque until I was completely satisfied nothing was going on there.\*\* > > CORN: You’d put a cop in front of every mosque? > > PINKERTON: That’s what I said. […] > > CORN: I mean, do you have any proof that every mosque deserves a cop in front of it? > > PINKERTON: I said, I would put one in there just for safe keeping all the way around. The scarey thing is, I am sure his constituency supports this move. Other Pinkerton gems: > [@](#): > > - In a 2005 column, Pinkerton advocated genocide in Iraq, writing that America can make “anti-American violence in Iraq end” by unleashing “the Shia Arab Muslims and the Kurds to finish the job,\*\* all the way to the bloody extreme.”\*\* > > - On Fox News in June 2006, Pinkerton complained about people who feel the “military needs to be carefully restrained with legal rules and procedures,” exclaiming **“I’d rather lose our civil liberties than lose the war.”** > > - In December 2006, Pinkerton argued that **“proximity to Mexico is at least partly to blame” for corruption in Texas.** > > - In September 2007, Pinkerton warned in the American Conservative of “Muslimization,” concluding that **“to keep the peace, we must separate our civilizations.”** ---
**Author:** ![Icerigger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icerigger/32/432_2.png) [@Icerigger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icerigger)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2008, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-amend-the-constitution-so-its-in-god-standards/433622/88 "2008-01-17T12:30:03Z")
Is not Liberty a pagan goddess, is not her statue on top of the capitol. You could interpret it as: to secure the blessings of the Goddess Liberty, at least metaphorically. Not the Christian God but the Greek Goddess! ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2008, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-amend-the-constitution-so-its-in-god-standards/433622/89 "2008-01-17T13:07:49Z")
[QUOTE=Icerigger] Is not Liberty a pagan goddess, is not her statue on top of the capitol. You could interpret it as: to secure the blessings of the Goddess Liberty, at least metaphorically. Not the Christian God but the Greek Goddess! [/QUOTE] You apparently didn’t get the memo. When, in a founding document of the republic, there’s an explicit reference to a pagan deity, it’s obviously a metaphor. When there’s a reference to either just “God” or what might be meant as some aspect of God that makes God look good, it’s a literal description of Yahweh. Please read your memos more carefully! ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2008, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-amend-the-constitution-so-its-in-god-standards/433622/90 "2008-01-17T17:35:17Z")
Looks like Hucabee’s back-pedaling a little: > [@](#): > > Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee has clarified what he meant when he said that “what we need to do is to amend the Constitution so it’s in God’s standards.” > > In an interview with Fox News – Crooks and Liars has the video – Huckabee says an amendment banning abortion and another banning same-sex marriage “are the two areas I’m talking about. I’m not suggesting that we rewrite the Constitution to reflect tithing or Sunday school attendance.” Oh, well that makes it _much_ better. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2008, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-amend-the-constitution-so-its-in-god-standards/433622/91 "2008-01-17T17:57:30Z")
[QUOTE=ArchiveGuy] Looks like Hucabee’s back-pedaling a little:Oh, well that makes it _much_ better. :rolleyes: [/QUOTE] Well, that’s exactly the way I interpreted his statement originally, so I don’t think it counts as “back-pedaling”. But you’re right-- it’s still a bit scary. Not just because he’d say such a thing, but because he was stupid enough to say it. Or worse, he figured it was the way most people thought. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2008, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-amend-the-constitution-so-its-in-god-standards/433622/92 "2008-01-17T18:08:45Z")
[QUOTE=Shodan] - those don’t change. Because they come from God. Regards, Shodan [/QUOTE] Or, conversely, you’re utterly wrong. Oh and my imaginary friend could smite your imaginary friend. ---
**Author:** ![stolichnaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bcef8e/32.png) [@stolichnaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stolichnaya)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2008, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-amend-the-constitution-so-its-in-god-standards/433622/93 "2008-01-17T18:43:18Z")
[QUOTE=John Mace] Well, that’s exactly the way I interpreted his statement originally, so I don’t think it counts as “back-pedaling”. But you’re right-- it’s still a bit scary. Not just because he’d say such a thing, but because he was stupid enough to say it. Or worse, he figured it was the way most people thought. [/QUOTE] Well, maybe not “most people”, but maybe 30% of the Republicans who vote in the in South Carolina primary, which would probably be more than enough. I don’t think Huck or his staff are much concerned with the eventual potential of what he says at this point, they are much more concerned with the immediate effect. They’ll burn that bridge when they come to it. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2008, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-amend-the-constitution-so-its-in-god-standards/433622/94 "2008-01-17T18:49:36Z")
[QUOTE=Shodan] There is only one God, Our conceptions and misconceptions about Him don’t change His nature. Regards, Shodan [/QUOTE] Ever read [The Age of Reason?](http://books.google.com/books?id=gnfo3FGMXs8C&dq=age+of+reason&pg=PP1&ots=hG7HWtE3HP&sig=C70Z8E3mbxVyWBcQlOAGcZYQnoc&hl=en&prev=http://www.google.com/search?q=age+of+reason&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&sa=X&oi=print&ct=title&cad=one-book-with-thumbnail#PPP2,M1) Paine specifically says he believes in Natures God (like Jefferson and Madison) but spends a good bit of the book on what a crock of shit Christianity and the Bible is. And I doubt he’d believe in any god if he was alive today. How do you know his nature isn’t what Jefferson and Paine thought? Or that he has any nature at all? ---
**Author:** ![stolichnaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bcef8e/32.png) [@stolichnaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stolichnaya)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2008, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-amend-the-constitution-so-its-in-god-standards/433622/95 "2008-01-17T18:52:50Z")
> [@](#): > > There is only one God, Our conceptions and misconceptions about Him don’t change His nature. That statement is turning me around and around. I think in my deepest darkest I want to agree that there is a God, but the first part and the second part seem so contrary to each other. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2008, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-amend-the-constitution-so-its-in-god-standards/433622/96 "2008-01-17T19:01:37Z")
[QUOTE=stolichnaya] Well, maybe not “most people”, but maybe 30% of the Republicans who vote in the in South Carolina primary, which would probably be more than enough. [/quote] Yeah, I almost added that exact thought on the end of my post. > [@](#): > > I don’t think Huck or his staff are much concerned with the eventual potential of what he says at this point, they are much more concerned with the immediate effect. They’ll burn that bridge when they come to it. Could be. They’re probably still reeling a bit over the fact that he’s even remotely viable. ---
**Author:** ![vibrotronica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a9a28c/32.png) [@vibrotronica](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vibrotronica)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2008, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-amend-the-constitution-so-its-in-god-standards/433622/97 "2008-01-17T19:14:06Z")
Jefferson chose the word “creator” very carefully. Not “God”, not “Jesus”, not “Yahweh,” not “Allah”, not “Shiva”, not “Zoroaster”—the generic “creator.” The very concept of religious freedom is embodied right there in that one word. Notice also that he said “THEIR” creator, meaning “the creator they believe in,” not “the” creator, meaning “the official god of America.” ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2008, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-amend-the-constitution-so-its-in-god-standards/433622/98 "2008-01-17T22:14:57Z")
Uh-oh, people! We’ve got the Slippery Slope a’comin! > [@](#): > > Asked whether it wouldn’t be a “dangerous undertaking” to try to bring the Constitution into conformity with the Bible – particularly “given the variety of biblical interpretations” – Huckabee said: “Well, I don’t think that’s a radical view to say we’re going to affirm marriage. I think the radical view is to say that we’re going to change the definition of marriage so that it can mean two men, two women, a man and three women, a man and a child, a man and animal. Again, once we change the definition, the door is open to change it again. I think the radical position is to make a change in what’s been historic.” > > Huckabee said that “the genius” of the Constitution is that it was built to be changed. On the other hand, he said, the Bible “was not created to be amended and altered with each passing culture.” ---
**Author:** ![SisterCoyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/958977/32.png) [@SisterCoyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SisterCoyote)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2008, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-amend-the-constitution-so-its-in-god-standards/433622/99 "2008-01-17T22:59:45Z")
I seriously want to know what sort of logical progression leads from two consenting adults marrying to an adult marrying a child or an animal, neither of whom can consent (not planning to start an age debate, here). I mean, I know that their logic is not similar to Earth logic, but someone, somewhere, had to come up with a logical reason that consensual marriages must logically be followed by non-consensual couplings. Right? Right? /curls up in a small ball and starts whimpering/ ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2008, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-amend-the-constitution-so-its-in-god-standards/433622/100 "2008-01-17T23:04:02Z")
[QUOTE=ArchiveGuy] Uh-oh, people! We’ve got the Slippery Slope a’comin! [/QUOTE] Man and animal/children? Looks like we got a cousin to [Santorum](http://spreadingsantorum.com/) a’comin’! 😃 (Oh, and link? I am SOOOOO going to send that to Savage Love) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-amend-the-constitution-so-its-in-god-standards/433622.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-amend-the-constitution-so-its-in-god-standards/433622.md?page=6)