# Huckabee hates America **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 10, 2007, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-hates-america/429484 "2007-12-10T16:06:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-hates-america/429484/121 "2007-12-11T13:31:01Z")
[Timely column](http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/editorials/stories/2007/12/11/blum11.ART_ART_12-11-07_A11_PK8O1MS.html?type=rss&cat=&sid=101) by Robyn Blumner on Huckabee as a scientific illiterate following in Bush’s footsteps: \*"Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee is gaining as a GOP presidential contender. He may be a friendly face, but the ordained Baptist minister is no friend to reason. In the Republican primary debate last May, he was one of three in the field to raise his hand to proclaim that he does not believe in evolution. In a later debate, Huckabee rejected for himself the belief that we are “descendants of a primate,” magnanimously suggesting that it was OK if others chose to believe it. Gee, thanks. Pretty much all the presidential candidates, Democrats and Republicans, are freely spouting off about the centrality of faith in their lives, with Mitt Romney promising that his is not too weird. But it is only Huckabee who is the dogma-driven real deal – a man who as president would follow in Bush’s anti-science, anti-intellectual footsteps, a man who would feel “chosen” for the job and licensed by a power higher than the will of the voters. The mission-zeal with which Bush has arrogated power and his maniacal unwillingness to compromise is packaged righteousness, pure and simple. Remember that Bush said he appealed to a “higher father” for strength when journalist Bob Woodward asked him if he’d consulted his father before invading Iraq. Who needs information grounded in experience when you have prayer and prophesy? And Huckabee would be Bush redux. Here is something scary-ignorant. Last week, the Web site ChristiaNet-.com, which bills itself as “the world’s largest Christian portal,” cheered the results of a survey it took finding that half of its 1,400 Christian respondents said that dinosaurs and man roamed Earth at the same time. Putting aside that the schoolteachers of these people should be slapped silly, these are Huckabee’s peeps. We can’t afford to put this kind of backward thinking and scientific illiteracy in the driver’s seat again."\* ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-hates-america/429484/122 "2007-12-11T14:05:30Z")
[QUOTE=Fear Itself] That Huckabee has so little confidence in his own qualifications for president that the only explanation for his rise in the polls is the intervention of a supernatural power? That Huckabee believes [God] prefers him over other candidates? [/QUOTE] Seems to me it would take a lot of confidence to declare that the Almighty is on your side. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-hates-america/429484/123 "2007-12-11T14:09:02Z")
[QUOTE=Liberal] Seems to me it would take a lot of confidence to declare that the Almighty is on your side. [/QUOTE] Really? Sounds like low self esteem to me. ---
**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-hates-america/429484/124 "2007-12-11T14:20:50Z")
[QUOTE=Fear Itself] That Huckabee has so little confidence in his own qualifications for president that the only explanation for his rise in the polls is the intervention of a supernatural power? [/QUOTE] How does this imply that he has so little confidence in his own qualifications? Are qualifications and popularity one and the same thing? > [@](#): > > That Huckabee believes god prefers him over other candidates? And that’s an inherently wrong claim to make? How? If he believes that he’s in the right, and that other candidates are not, is that automatically an act of arrogance? ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-hates-america/429484/125 "2007-12-11T14:35:12Z")
[QUOTE=JThunder] How does this imply that he has so little confidence in his own qualifications? [/QUOTE] Because if he was certain he was the most qualified, he wouldn’t need to rely on divine intervention to sway the opinions of the voters. > [@](#): > > Are qualifications and popularity one and the same thing? I would hope the latter proceeds from the former. > [@](#): > > If he believes that he’s in the right, and that other candidates are not, is that automatically an act of arrogance? It is one thing to believe you are in the right; it is quite another to claim that you are god’s chosen candidate. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-hates-america/429484/126 "2007-12-11T14:37:03Z")
Can you find the difference between “I believe I am the best candidate for the job” and “I believe I am the best candidate for the job, and God obviously agrees?” No cheating! _ **Hint:** _ _Look carefully at the second independent clause in the latter sentence!_ ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-hates-america/429484/127 "2007-12-11T14:40:14Z")
[QUOTE=Liberal] No more than y’all hate him, obviously. [/QUOTE] **Lib** , I’m worried that maybe you aren’t getting enough ketchup. As everyone knows ketchup has natural mellowing agents that help combat feelings of inadequacy. Plus extra endorphins, for creativity. This message brought to you by the Ketchup Advisory Board. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-hates-america/429484/128 "2007-12-11T15:08:41Z")
[QUOTE=Fear Itself] Because if he was certain he was the most qualified, he wouldn’t need to rely on divine intervention to sway the opinions of the voters. [/QUOTE] So the most qualified candidate always wins the election? Interesting. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-hates-america/429484/129 "2007-12-11T15:08:53Z")
_Fuck ketchup._ - The Catsup Advisory Board. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-hates-america/429484/130 "2007-12-11T15:16:25Z")
The bottle neck opening is too narrow for me. YPMV ---
**Author:** ![athelas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@athelas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/athelas)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-hates-america/429484/131 "2007-12-11T15:32:23Z")
Note: Humility is now a bad thing, if you’re Christian. Of course, if you’re sincerely and vocally Christian, pretty much everything about you is a bad thing, including your breath and dress sense. ---
**Author:** ![stolichnaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bcef8e/32.png) [@stolichnaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stolichnaya)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-hates-america/429484/132 "2007-12-11T15:39:36Z")
This cat is scary. He may feel the same way as Bush but he is a hell of a lot more convincing. I am open and honest about my bigotry towards those who mix religion and politics. It’s a bad idea, locally and globally. I’d vote for a wet sack of sand over a guy who thinks that God is making people change their poll answers. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-hates-america/429484/133 "2007-12-11T16:04:53Z")
[QUOTE=Shodan] So the most qualified candidate always wins the election? Interesting. [/QUOTE] Apparently, you must also be chosen by god. ---
**Author:** ![sockswsandals](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@sockswsandals](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sockswsandals)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-hates-america/429484/134 "2007-12-11T16:07:09Z")
[QUOTE=Liberal] Seems to me it would take a lot of confidence to declare that the Almighty is on your side. [/QUOTE] Sounds like hubris to me. “We [meaning humanity] cannot fathom God’s intentions” is used to explain so very many points which Christians cannot simply fabricate a believeable lie for. How does Huckabee or anyone else absolutely know that his rise in the polls is due to God’s divine intervention? If he does not know how is it not the height of arrogance to claim you understand the mind and intentions of the Almighty? ---
**Author:** ![ArizonaTeach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/45deac/32.png) [@ArizonaTeach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArizonaTeach)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-hates-america/429484/135 "2007-12-11T16:08:22Z")
[QUOTE=MaxTheVool] I think you (and **kidchameleon** ) are over-simplifying the issue. [/QUOTE] Heh…I’m not agreeing or disagreeing with you, but I just find it humorous that the person who said what’s quoted there also distilled the entire gay marriage debate into an relatively one-sided A-B-C list. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-hates-america/429484/136 "2007-12-11T16:16:55Z")
[QUOTE=Fear Itself] Apparently, you must also be chosen by god. [/QUOTE] I don’t know why you’re missing the obvious response to those who are disagreeing with you. He said it was the only possible explanation. IOW, it couldn’t possibly be that people actually though, on their own, that he was the best qualified. That’s pretty weird. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-hates-america/429484/137 "2007-12-11T16:19:31Z")
[QUOTE=John Mace] I don’t know why you’re missing the obvious response to those who are disagreeing with you. He said it was the only possible explanation. IOW, it couldn’t possibly be that people actually though, on their own, that he was the best qualified. That’s pretty weird. [/QUOTE] I agree, that’s why I said it looked like low self-esteem to me. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-hates-america/429484/138 "2007-12-11T16:56:30Z")
[QUOTE=Fear Itself] Apparently, you must also be chosen by [God]. [/QUOTE] Or franklin roosevelt. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-hates-america/429484/139 "2007-12-11T16:58:20Z")
[QUOTE=Fear Itself] I agree, that’s why I said it looked like low self-esteem to me. [/QUOTE] Good thing you had John handy to explain yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-hates-america/429484/140 "2007-12-11T17:00:21Z")
[QUOTE=Liberal] Good thing you had John handy to explain yourself. [/QUOTE] At \*someone \* understands me. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-hates-america/429484.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-hates-america/429484.md?page=8)