The article is linked (headlined even) on Drudge today. I didn’t realize it was 10 years old. Sorry. :o
I said it was “last night,” because the text of the article said “sunday night.” Last night was sunday. I assumed it was talking about last night. My bad.
With coffee brewed from a filter found in my neighbor’s trash. 
The same reason libertarians run for office while at the same time believing that government doesn’t solve problems. For some people, the role of government is to provide security for your rights and property so that you can solve problems yourself. The whole notion of government as a gigantic problem solver is relatively new in America. What Huckabee DID mean in my opinion is that government can only protect people from each other, but that only Jesus can protect them from what is really eating at them — their own emptiness and lack of fulfillment.
No problem. Like I said, I assumed as much.
I think a version of Norm’s famous advice is applicable to threads like this: Measure twice, cut once.
I still think Huckabee’s campaign message is disturbing, and one need only scratch a little beneath the surface to see it.
You see? Government can’t help you with that. 
You mean like this:
I think people play the game to win. If I were going to try to realistically become president I would jump on the back of jesus christ and ride him all the way to victory. Candidates totally cater to trends and audience. A lot of them change their stances on entire issues based on which election they are in. Jesus is totally hot right now.
(don’t worry, I don’t vote)
Why do we hate the mormons now? I can’t remember.
Personally I think the idea of Hillary coming in and stealing my toys and forcing me to share is far more terrifying.
I’ll be back whistling another tune when I get accidentally knocked up though.
Yes. Exactly like that. Maybe a timely pitting of Clinton is in order.
Well, he is running for the Republican nomination, which is pretty similar…
What is meant by "breakdown of the family? What is Huckabee gong to do about it? What is the definition of a “family?” What is the evdidence that any alleged “breakdown” of this undefined institution is responsible for drug use and violence?
Same questions. What is meant by “community,” what is meant by a “breakdown” of the community and what is Huckabee going to do about it? (he’s not saying it takes a village, is he?)
Now we’re getting somewhere. Yes, the exportation of jobs and the brutalization of the working class by corporations is a major stressor on families and communities and economic despair does indeed lead to drug use, crime and the disintegration of families.
Why can’t jobs be created by the government. Why can’t corporatocracy be put in check by the governemnt?
What does any of this gibbersih mean? What is meant by “values?” What values are going to bring back jobs from India? What is meant by 'spirit" or “soul” or “truth of human nature?” What is meant by “reaching into” them? How does Huckabee intend to implement any of it.
This kind of talk is just code for “fuck you. If you have economic problems, it’s because you aren’t Christian enough. Don’t look to the state to protect your economic interests. Just pray your problems away.”
This kind of rhetoric is a gutless avoidance of public responsibility and a smokescreen designed to make people think their victimization is their own fault. What a sick fuck this guy is. What a sociopath.
Is that what Jesus would say?
Sailboat
I’m still not seeing an equivalence, there.
I’m pretty sure Jesus said “Eat me”.
Um, my last quote was from Clinton in 1993.
Touché, sir.
Sailboat
I don’t know. I liked the Clinton years, I never considered him a sociopath. Nor, did I think he ever made people think things were their own fault. I do think he tried to inspire and do things on their own, as well as trust in the government for help when needed.
I thought he was an effective president. I voted for him twice. But he was really full of shit sometimes. I actually probably shouldn’t call him a sociopath because I know he didn’t actually believe a word of that stuff. He could pander with the best of them.
Ok, change “Huckabee,” to “Clinton” in all of my comments.
Funny as this is, it points to a huge double standard.
Diogenes and his ilk will go completely nuts when Huckabeee, or indeed any Republican, makes a speech like this. Yet identical remarks by Democrats either sail completely under their radar or, if they are noticed, are explained and excused away.
Barack Obama has been making quite explicit references to his faith in his campaign - and I haven’t heard a word of protest about it around here.
Now, I wouldn’t say Obama should be criticized for this - these kinds of remarks are entirely in keeping with traditional American political rhetoric. But that of course means that these kinds of remarks by a Republican are equally innocuous.
Now, the extent religion affects policy is a legitimate basis for debate. But religious references in speeches are so common on both sides that if we were to freak out everytime they cropped up, nothing else would get done.