# Huckabee makes a racist appeal in South Carolina and nobody cares **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 22, 2008, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-makes-a-racist-appeal-in-south-carolina-and-nobody-cares/434438 "2008-01-22T00:27:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea666f/32.png) [@Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_and_a_Half_Inches_of_Fun)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-makes-a-racist-appeal-in-south-carolina-and-nobody-cares/434438/1 "2008-01-22T00:27:50Z")
Christopher Hitchens nails it in this article. > [@](#): > > Gov. Mike Huckabee made the following unambiguously racist and demagogic appeal in Myrtle Beach, S.C., last week: > > ``` > You don't like people from outside the state coming in and telling you what to do with your flag. In fact, if somebody came to Arkansas and told us what to do with our flag, we'd tell 'em what to do with the pole; that's what we'd do. > > ``` > > This is a straightforward racist appeal for the following reasons: > > ``` > 1) The South Carolina flag is a perfectly nice flag, featuring the palmetto plant, about which no "outsider" has ever offered any free advice. > > 2) The Confederate battle flag, to which Gov. Huckabee was alluding, was first flown over the South Carolina state capitol in 1962, as a deliberately belligerent riposte to the civil rights movement, and is not now, and never has been, the flag of that great state. > > 3) By a vote of both South Carolina houses in the year 2000, the Confederate battle flag ceased to be flown over the state capitol and now only waves (as quite possibly it should) over the memorial to fallen Confederate soldiers. > > ``` > > Thus, as well as crassly behaving exactly like someone “from outside the state coming in and telling you what to do with your flag,” former Gov. Huckabee of Arkansas deliberately aligned himself with the rancorous minority who are still not reconciled to the idea that South Carolina may not officially consecrate racism and slavery and secession. “Your flag”? What an insult, not just to the descendants of slavery but to the many, many other loyalists and Unionists who fought and died to bring their state back into the Union. And what is the point of the “outside the state” slur? Wasn’t this exactly what Gov. Orval Faubus of Arkansas used to say, as if to make it seem that all was hunky-dory in his own tight little dominion until them goddam “outside agitators” arrived? In the end, as Gov. Huckabee may or may not recall, the 101st Airborne Division, most of them “outsiders” not from Arkansas, had to be sent by a Republican president to integrate the schools of Little Rock. That was a lot of trouble and expense that the big-mouth rednecks put us all to, but it was worth it. It’s insufferable to hear this glib idiot make a mockery of it now in order to try to get the Klan vote in South Carolina. We all knew that Huckabee was a homophobe and an anti-science idoit. Now we know that he is willing to make blatant appeals to racist sentiment. Too bad the media is hardly covering this story. Fuck Huckabee and anyone that would support him. > **[Why Are the Media Ignoring Huckabee’s Comments About the Confederate Flag?](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2008/01/why-are-the-media-ignoring-huckabee-s-comments-about-the-confederate-flag.html)** > > In this country, it seems that you can always get an argument going about “race” as long as it is guaranteed to be phony, but never when it is real.... ---
**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-makes-a-racist-appeal-in-south-carolina-and-nobody-cares/434438/2 "2008-01-22T00:37:22Z")
i wonder if any fat people will vote for him. ---
**Author:** ![George\_Kaplin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3e96dc/32.png) [@George\_Kaplin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/George_Kaplin)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-makes-a-racist-appeal-in-south-carolina-and-nobody-cares/434438/3 "2008-01-22T00:49:31Z")
Depends on the size of the vo…tin…ah, fuck it. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-makes-a-racist-appeal-in-south-carolina-and-nobody-cares/434438/4 "2008-01-22T00:50:37Z")
[QUOTE=Omegaman] i wonder if any fat people will vote for him. [/QUOTE] If they do, can we call them disgusting? ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-makes-a-racist-appeal-in-south-carolina-and-nobody-cares/434438/5 "2008-01-22T00:51:11Z")
Fat people can’t vote. They can’t fit in the booths, and their fat fingers can’t avoid pressing multiple selections on the touch screens. ---
**Author:** ![Gala\_Matrix\_Fire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4da419/32.png) [@Gala\_Matrix\_Fire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gala_Matrix_Fire)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-makes-a-racist-appeal-in-south-carolina-and-nobody-cares/434438/6 "2008-01-22T00:52:02Z")
Now that you mention it, I remember seeing a clip of that. It is kind of amazing that a bigger deal was not made of it. ---
**Author:** ![Wee\_Bairn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/90db22/32.png) [@Wee\_Bairn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wee_Bairn)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-makes-a-racist-appeal-in-south-carolina-and-nobody-cares/434438/7 "2008-01-22T01:12:20Z")
I can’t believe no one is making a big deal of the fact that his son tortured and killed a dog for fun. ---
**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-makes-a-racist-appeal-in-south-carolina-and-nobody-cares/434438/8 "2008-01-22T01:17:22Z")
[QUOTE=Wee Bairn] I can’t believe no one is making a big deal of the fact that his son tortured and killed a dog for fun. [/QUOTE] Is his son fat? The dog? ---
**Author:** ![El\_Gui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@El\_Gui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Gui)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-makes-a-racist-appeal-in-south-carolina-and-nobody-cares/434438/9 "2008-01-22T01:19:05Z")
Hmm. I wonder if this will get as much attention as that phony race war between the pro-Hillary and pro-Obama camps? This being a “liberal” media and all, I’m sure it will! \ And, it looks like Huckabee gave a videotaped speech to the Council of Conservative Citizens, formerly known as the infamous White Citizens Councils of the 1960’s. [http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Huckabee\_gave\_speech\_to\_white\_supremacists\_0118.html](http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Huckabee_gave_speech_to_white_supremacists_0118.html) This guy is nutty. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-makes-a-racist-appeal-in-south-carolina-and-nobody-cares/434438/10 "2008-01-22T01:21:39Z")
[QUOTE=El Gui] This guy is nutty. [/QUOTE] But he’s the anointed of Jay-sus, and that’s all that really counts. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Jean\_Gray](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jean\_Gray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jean_Gray)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-makes-a-racist-appeal-in-south-carolina-and-nobody-cares/434438/11 "2008-01-22T01:21:56Z")
[QUOTE=Two and a Half Inches of Fun] Fuck Huckabee and anyone that would support him. [/QUOTE] Uh oh. You do know that Chuck Norris is gonna come after you now, don’t you? (see here: [http://www.chuck4huckbbq.com/](http://www.chuck4huckbbq.com/) ) ---
**Author:** ![athelas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@athelas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/athelas)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-makes-a-racist-appeal-in-south-carolina-and-nobody-cares/434438/12 "2008-01-22T01:24:14Z")
[QUOTE=El Gui] Hmm. I wonder if this will get as much attention as that phony race war between the pro-Hillary and pro-Obama camps? [/QUOTE] Phony in the sense that it ain’t happenin’, or in that what the camps are saying is bollocks? ---
**Author:** ![El\_Gui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@El\_Gui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Gui)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-makes-a-racist-appeal-in-south-carolina-and-nobody-cares/434438/13 "2008-01-22T01:28:51Z")
Phony in the sense that I feel like it was mostly a media driven bullshit of a story. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-makes-a-racist-appeal-in-south-carolina-and-nobody-cares/434438/14 "2008-01-22T01:33:39Z")
[QUOTE=Wee Bairn] I can’t believe no one is making a big deal of the fact that his son tortured and killed a dog for fun. [/QUOTE] Seriously? ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-makes-a-racist-appeal-in-south-carolina-and-nobody-cares/434438/15 "2008-01-22T01:39:27Z")
[QUOTE=Jean Gray] Uh oh. You do know that Chuck Norris is gonna come after you now, don’t you? [/QUOTE] He’s a pussy. John McCain is gonna send his 95-year-old mother to [wash his mouth out with soap](http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2008/01/wash_chucks_mouth_out_with_soa.html). ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-makes-a-racist-appeal-in-south-carolina-and-nobody-cares/434438/16 "2008-01-22T01:45:42Z")
[QUOTE=Two and a Half Inches of Fun] Fuck Huckabee and anyone that would support him. [/QUOTE] You’ve got it all wrong, man. Seriously. The Dems can still screw this up. Except if Huckabee gets the nomination. Even Edwards could beat him. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-makes-a-racist-appeal-in-south-carolina-and-nobody-cares/434438/17 "2008-01-22T02:26:41Z")
Of course, it’s also rich that he resents anybody coming in to an individual state and telling them what to do with their flag. But let a state decide on its own how to handle, say, abortions or gay marriage? _DANGER! DANGER!_ Can’t have any of that! Time for a Constitutional Amendment! :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sophistry_and_Illusion)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-makes-a-racist-appeal-in-south-carolina-and-nobody-cares/434438/18 "2008-01-22T02:39:00Z")
Oh, good, a chance to link to one of my favorite \*Onion \* photos: [Georgia Adds Swastika, Middle Finger To State Flag](http://www.theonion.com/content/node/35101) ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-makes-a-racist-appeal-in-south-carolina-and-nobody-cares/434438/19 "2008-01-22T03:01:15Z")
I’m SO glad he has no chance in hell of winning. ---
**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-makes-a-racist-appeal-in-south-carolina-and-nobody-cares/434438/20 "2008-01-22T03:20:25Z")
Well, dang, he just lost my vote. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-makes-a-racist-appeal-in-south-carolina-and-nobody-cares/434438.md?page=2)