# Huckabee "misspoke"?  Yeah, right!!

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 2, 2011, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247 "2011-03-02T19:01:33Z")\
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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/21 "2011-03-02T20:01:50Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> My only question would be is Huckabee that misinformed or is he a malicious liar? I find it hard to believe he actually believes that Obama grew up in Kenya, so…

He’s either a deliberate liar, or stupider than a sack of hammers. Perfect Republican leadership material either way!

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/22 "2011-03-02T20:02:39Z")

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> [@Malthus](#):
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> Is it actually well known?

Not to the extent that most Americans could tell you what it means with any specificity, but they know it sounds black and African and violent.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/23 "2011-03-02T20:05:15Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> Not to the extent that most Americans could tell you what it means with any specificity, but they know it sounds **black and African and violent**.

Most Americans think those three terms are synonymous.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/24 "2011-03-02T20:07:35Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Except for the homos. Don’t forget, with cafeteria Christianity, you can pick one from column A and one from column B!

Yeah, I know, some of the more intolerant Christians try to use that one throwaway line from Leviticus to support their anti-gay fear. They are either hypocritical there or ignorant of their own theology. Just as someone who thinks that Christians who are supposed to follow the bulk of Leviticus are ignorant of the very fundamentals of Christian theology.

In the defense of Christian homophobes there are some arguably anti-homosexual verses in Paul’s writings. They can always fall back on that.

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/25 "2011-03-02T20:13:57Z")

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> [@Heyoka13](#):
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> Christ came to fulfill the law.
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> Christians, for good or for bad, are stuck with Levitcus.  
> Kind of makes for a day brightener for me!
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> 🙂

You are sadly misinformed.  
But, regarding Huckabee, I kinda liked the guy; not that I would consider voting for him, but he seemed to have quite a bit of integrity. I don’t think he was intentionally lying (that would be stupid), I think he has honestly been under the impression that Obama spent his youth in Hawaii. Which is a pretty appalling misapprehension and shows that he really hasn’t been paying attention.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/26 "2011-03-02T20:20:43Z")

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> [@Skammer](#):
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> You are sadly misinformed.  
> But, regarding Huckabee, I kinda liked the guy; not that I would consider voting for him, but he seemed to have quite a bit of integrity. I don’t think he was intentionally lying (that would be stupid), I think he has honestly been under the impression that Obama spent his youth in Hawaii. Which is a pretty appalling misapprehension and shows that he really hasn’t been paying attention.

Did you mean Kenya instead of Hawaii?

I can’t see how he could have honestly thought that Obama grew up in Kenya.

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**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/27 "2011-03-02T20:21:03Z")

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“Obama If you think about it, his perspective as growing up in Kenya with a Kenyan father and grandfather, their view of the Mau Mau Revolution in Kenya is very different than ours because he probably grew up hearing that the British were a bunch of imperialists who persecuted his grandfather,” Mr. Huckabee said.”

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So by his reasoning, should we also be suspicious of all those teabaggers dressed in 18th century revolutionary garb? I wouldn’t think they’d be overly fond of British imperialism either.

> [@Malthus](#):
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> Is it actually well known?

If you’re a history buff, yeah. But I doubt most Americans really know about, or for that matter, have even heard of it. Like most things conservatives claim liberals spend a lot of time obsessing on, it’s something that’s most often invoked as a boogeyman term, rather than, you know, actually discussed in depth as the complex matter that it is.

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**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/28 "2011-03-02T20:22:20Z")

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> [@Skammer](#):
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> … I think he has honestly been under the impression that Obama spent his youth in Hawaii. Which is a pretty appalling misapprehension and shows that he really hasn’t been paying attention.

So why did he say that Obama spent his youth in Kenya?

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/29 "2011-03-02T20:23:08Z")

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Didn’t Obama’s paternal grandfather die before he was even born?

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**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/30 "2011-03-02T20:25:16Z")

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> [@joebuck20](#):
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> So by his reasoning, should we also be suspicious of all those teabaggers dressed in 18th century revolutionary garb? I wouldn’t think they’d be overly fond of British imperialism either.

I think the logic is:  
(1) If you’re a white 18th century American, then British imperialism is bad, and it is proper to rebel against it.  
(2) If you’re a black 20th century African, then British imperialism is good, and it’s wrong to rebel against it.

You just need to see things in the right historical context.

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**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/31 "2011-03-02T20:30:34Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> He could at least follow the Ten Commandments. I’m pretty sure Christians think those are still valid.

Except that pesky one about not bearing false witness.

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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/32 "2011-03-02T20:43:25Z")

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Indonesia was a Dutch, not British colony

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/33 "2011-03-02T20:44:40Z")

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> [@Death\_of\_Rats](#):
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> Except that pesky one about not bearing false witness.

That one has been replaced with _The ends justify the means._

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/34 "2011-03-02T20:48:57Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Did you mean Kenya instead of Hawaii?
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> I can’t see how he could have honestly thought that Obama grew up in Kenya.

> [@Giles](#):
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> So why did he say that Obama spent his youth in Kenya?

Oops, yes I mistyped. I think Huckabee really thought Obama grew up on Kenya. So he was not being maliciously deceitful, just stupidly and inexcusably ignorant.

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/35 "2011-03-02T21:18:35Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> Not to the extent that most Americans could tell you what it means with any specificity, but they know it sounds black and African and violent.

> [@silenus](#):
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> Most Americans think those three terms are synonymous.

Nah, all my African violents are purple.

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**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/36 "2011-03-02T21:23:46Z")

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> [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](#):
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> Nah, all my African violents are purple.

There’s a special place in hell for puns like that. (And I don’t even believe in hell. :mad:)

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/37 "2011-03-02T21:29:43Z")

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> [@Malthus](#):
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> Is it actually well known?

Only amongst Oak Ridge Boys fans.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/38 "2011-03-02T21:29:54Z")

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I consider myself a relatively well informed person. Here’s what I know about the Mau Mau’s off the top of my head: that was the name of one of the black gangs in the movie, _The Wanderers_.

I’m not sure how that might have formed Obama’s worldview, though.

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**Author:** ![Kokopilau](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Kokopilau](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kokopilau)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/39 "2011-03-02T21:41:20Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> Christ explicitly said that the old covenant no longer applies.

He also explicitly said that not “jot or tittle” of the law will pass away until heaven and earth pass.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/40 "2011-03-02T21:43:14Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> Only amongst Oak Ridge Boys fans.

I hate you.

_shakes fist_

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