# Huckabee "misspoke"?  Yeah, right!!

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 2, 2011, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247 "2011-03-02T19:01:33Z")\
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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/81 "2011-03-03T14:03:15Z")

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> “And I have said many times,” he later added, “publicly, that I do think he has a different worldview and I think it’s, in part, molded out of a very different experience. Most of us grew up going to Boy Scout meetings and, you know, our communities were filled with Rotary Clubs, not madrassas.”

Not, of course, that Huckabee’s _saying_ that Obama went to a madrassa (he didn’t). He’s just saying that that he, Huckabee, didn’t grow up in a neighborhood with any. Any other inferences you may take from that statement are entirely unintended.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/82 "2011-03-03T14:53:00Z")

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I do hope Huckabee runs in '12. For sheer entertainment value, he’s going to be priceless.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/83 "2011-03-03T14:58:26Z")

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> [@Onomatopoeia](#):
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> He’s either fulfilling his FOX News obligations, as **Wheelz** said in post #4, or dog-whistling to the base for his presidential run. I’m doubtful Huckabee is as stupid and ill-informed as his statement was. I predict we’ll hear a lot more of this type of rhetoric from other potential Republican candidates over the next 12 months.

Ask and you shall receive.  
[**Barbour** claims Obama admin wants **gas prices** to go up](http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/03/02/6172480-barbour-claims-obama-admin-wants-gas-prices-to-go-up)

Did Barbour provide the media with copies of the emails, memos, wiretap transcripts to back up this startling revelation?

Will Obama now be impeached for this dastardly deed? It’s not enough that Obama’s a white-hating-christian, muslim, Nazi, Socialist, Communist, Kenyan, Liberal; now he’s in bed with the oil companies.

Another barrage emails coming from my right wing brethern about how Obama is screwing REAL Americans - sigh.

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**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/84 "2011-03-03T15:00:02Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> Christ explicitly said that the old covenant no longer applies.

Except for the part where he said it wouldn’t.

Matthew 5:17-19

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**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/85 "2011-03-03T15:17:55Z")

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> [@Onomatopoeia](#):
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> He’s either fulfilling his FOX News obligations, as **Wheelz** said in post #4, or dog-whistling to the base for his presidential run. I’m doubtful Huckabee is as stupid and ill-informed as his statement was. I predict we’ll hear a lot more of this type of rhetoric from other potential Republican candidates over the next 12 months.

I’ll go with contractual obligation , and book promotion. After his rant about Muslims in a Christian church the other day I said it was just another contrived controversy for Fox. Same with this Kenya thing.

He told BillO that he had done a bunch of media interviews that day and it was just a slip. It’s not a slip when you’re also talking about Obama’s father and grandfather, and making some ignorant anti-colonialism remark. It’s another contrived controversy for Fox and lots of Media attention for Huckabee and his new book.

I had some respect for Huckabee when he defended Wright during that controversy. It appears now though that working for Fox has altered his priorities. Bullshit is perfectly acceptable if it means translates into dollars. Too bad.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/86 "2011-03-03T15:34:37Z")

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> [@smithsb](#):
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> Ask and you shall receive.  
> [**Barbour** claims Obama admin wants **gas prices** to go up](http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/03/02/6172480-barbour-claims-obama-admin-wants-gas-prices-to-go-up)
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> Did Barbour provide the media with copies of the emails, memos, wiretap transcripts to back up this startling revelation?

I don’t put that anywhere near the Huckabee comment, but rather the typical claim made by politicians of both stripes about the motivations of the other side.

Huckabee’s quote was an outright fabrication. Something that is demonstrably false. Barbour’s comments are opinions about the effects of certain policies, which could, in fact, be correct.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/87 "2011-03-03T15:53:18Z")

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Barbour also bitched about the Obama administration wasting 15 months on the Health Care bill after bitching and moaning about how it had been rammed down our throats. So, basically, fuck him, he’s a double talking bag-o-douche.

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**Author:** ![Raygun99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Raygun99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raygun99)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/88 "2011-03-03T16:11:17Z")

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So to sum up, Huckabee claimed that Obama was shaped by:  
The grandfather and the father he met once  
The country he didn’t live in  
The rebellion his family didn’t take part in and has never mentioned  
The madrassa he didn’t go to.  
Forced to backtrack, he then claimed he meant to refer to another country which was almost completely around the world away from where the rebellion took place and wasn’t colonized by the same power.

Other than that, he’s bang on.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/89 "2011-03-03T16:13:59Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Not, of course, that Huckabee’s _saying_ that Obama went to a madrassa (he didn’t). He’s just saying that that he, Huckabee, didn’t grow up in a neighborhood with any. Any other inferences you may take from that statement are entirely unintended.

Not, of course, that I’m _saying_ that Huckabee routinely receives envelopes full of small unmarked bills from corporate lobbyists. I’m just saying that I, SteveMB, don’t.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/90 "2011-03-03T16:16:35Z")

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All Huckabee’s audience knows about the Mau Mau rebellion is that Obama is supports it, which means it must be bad, which then enforces a feed back loop of Obama being bad for supporting it.

You can do the same thing with anything:

1. Glenn beck announces that Obama has been seen reading the Illiad
2. Fox viewers assume that Homer must be a Nazi, Socialist, Muslim or else Obama wouldn’t read him.
3. Fox viewers use as proof of Obama’s Nazi, Socialist, Muslim tenancies the fact that he reads Homer.

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**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/91 "2011-03-03T16:24:37Z")

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> [@ladyfoxfyre](#):
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> What’s an anti-bear activist?
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> ETA: Yeah I just read it. What a dumbass.

Well, see, some gay guys are really hairy and kinda overweight…Mike _especially_ doesn’t like them…

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/92 "2011-03-03T16:28:00Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Huckabee’s quote was an outright fabrication. Something that is demonstrably false. Barbour’s comments are opinions about the effects of certain policies, which could, in fact, be correct.

What policies? Obama’s policy of having citizens of middle eastern countries rise up against their leaders, which has led to the recent increase in the price of crude because of uncertainty?

Barbour is simply an ass.

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**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/93 "2011-03-03T16:30:02Z")

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You could say he misspoke…out of his ass.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/94 "2011-03-03T16:38:09Z")

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> [@Raygun99](#):
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> So to sum up, Huckabee claimed that Obama was shaped by:  
> The grandfather and the father he met once  
> The country he didn’t live in  
> The rebellion his family didn’t take part in and has never mentioned  
> The madrassa he didn’t go to.  
> Forced to backtrack, he then claimed he meant to refer to another country which was almost completely around the world away from where the rebellion took place and wasn’t colonized by the same power.
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> Other than that, he’s bang on.

Wasn’t the Mau Mau also in the 50s? Yeah, I’m still drawing on Magnum PI information here.

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/95 "2011-03-03T16:42:12Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> Not to the extent that most Americans could tell you what it means with any specificity, but they know it sounds black and African and violent.

Actually, I didn’t know what it was and my first thought was it sounded vaguely Asian.

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/96 "2011-03-03T16:51:03Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> Not to the extent that most Americans could tell you what it means with any specificity, but they know it sounds black and African and violent.

So what’s the problem, then? They’d be right: it WAS black, African, and violent.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/97 "2011-03-03T16:51:57Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> All Huckabee’s audience knows about the Mau Mau rebellion is that Obama is supports it, which means it must be bad, which then enforces a feed back loop of Obama being bad for supporting it.
> 
> You can do the same thing with anything:
> 
> 1. Glenn beck announces that Obama has been seen reading the Illiad
> 2. Fox viewers assume that Homer must be a Nazi, Socialist, Muslim or else Obama wouldn’t read him.
> 3. Fox viewers use as proof of Obama’s Nazi, Socialist, Muslim tenancies the fact that he reads Homer.

Congratulations, you’ve summed up the twenty-first century.

Let’s just skip ahead to the twenty-second.

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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/98 "2011-03-03T16:55:21Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> All Huckabee’s audience knows about the Mau Mau rebellion is that Obama is supports it, which means it must be bad, which then enforces a feed back loop of Obama being bad for supporting it.
> 
> You can do the same thing with anything:
> 
> 1. Glenn beck announces that Obama has been seen reading the Illiad
> 2. Fox viewers assume that Homer must be a Nazi, Socialist, Muslim or else Obama wouldn’t read him.
> 3. Fox viewers use as proof of Obama’s Nazi, Socialist, Muslim tenancies the fact that he reads Homer.

That would backfire if they mentioned “Homer” - Fox viewers would immediately think that “reading Homer” involved Obama reading Simpsons comics. 😉

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/99 "2011-03-03T17:13:03Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> So what’s the problem, then? They’d be right: it WAS black, African, and violent.

The problem is in gratuitously and falsely associating it with Obama. Surely you understand that. The subliminal message is that Barack Obama is an exotic, violent, black African, spear carrying, face-painted _other_. I know you’re perfectly capable of hearing dog whistles. Don’t play dumb.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/100 "2011-03-03T17:35:15Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> So what’s the problem, then? They’d be right: it WAS black, African, and violent.

Perhaps \*\*Dio \*\*misspoke there. He should have said, “black, African and mindlessly violent such as to put the fear of God in every white person on earth.”

I can attest that it means exactly that to a number of my close relatives. I’ve actually heard it used in that fashion.

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