# Huckabee "misspoke"? Yeah, right!! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 2, 2011, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247 "2011-03-02T19:01:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/121 "2011-03-03T22:50:06Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I spent about as much time outside the US as Obama did when I was growing up. I still somehow managed to be a Boy Scout and never acquired a hatred for America, even though I spent a couple of formative years in sub-Saharan Africa. Really? Hey, where did you live? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/122 "2011-03-03T22:50:12Z")
> [@Rhythmdvl](#): > > What a difference perspective makes. If Pete Stark (an atheist member of congress) objected to the phrase “act of god” in preference for “act of nature” in a piece of legislation, I daresay many people decrying Huckabee would praise Stark. No they wouldn’t. > [@](#): > > Is “act of god” in contractual or legislative language a linguistic idiom or a distant shade of ceremonial deism? It’s figurative and just refers to something that humans have no control over. It might arguably be called ceremonial deism if it was used in legislation (in that it’s a figure of speech with no literal religious meaning), but not in civil contractual language since that doesn’t involve the state. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/123 "2011-03-03T22:51:06Z")
Perhaps ‘approach’ or ‘intent’ would have been a better choice. Same result, but one from a pastor’s personal view that God can’t do bad things and the other from a stop-sticking-God-into-the-damn-law-every-chance-you-get view. ETA: So Dio agrees that it’s a linguistic convention. Great. So is In God We Trust the same thing? Again, not a gotcha ya, but an interest in the nuances of language. Oh, note that if we’re getting to be hyper pedantic about it, it becomes state action the moment the state is used as a vehicle to enforce a contract. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/124 "2011-03-03T22:51:14Z")
> [@Capitaine\_Zombie](#): > > Really? Hey, where did you live? Three years in England, two years in Liberia. ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/125 "2011-03-03T22:56:25Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Three years in England, two years in Liberia. Very interesting, **Dio**. Perhaps you can start a thread sometime on how it was to live in Liberia. I have questions…oh, so, so many questions. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/126 "2011-03-03T22:59:24Z")
> [@Onomatopoeia](#): > > Very interesting, **Dio**. Perhaps you can start a thread sometime on how it was to live in Liberia. I have questions…oh, so, so many questions. Sure. I don’t know how interesting it will be, but I can start one. ---
**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/127 "2011-03-03T23:01:04Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Three years in England, two years in Liberia. Funny, as a teen, I lived one year in England, and two in Nigeria. Are you some parallel me typing from another dimension? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/128 "2011-03-03T23:05:21Z")
[Ask the guy who lived in Liberia](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=13530701#post13530701) ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/129 "2011-03-03T23:06:59Z")
> [@Capitaine\_Zombie](#): > > Funny, as a teen, I lived one year in England, and two in Nigeria. Are you some parallel me typing from another dimension? I never went to Nigeria, but I heard some gnarly stories about it. Some guys I knew in the Navy said there were dead bodies floating in the harbor there. Where did you live in England? We were at Lakenheath. ---
**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/130 "2011-03-03T23:09:45Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I never went to Nigeria, but I heard some gnarly stories about it. Some guys I knew in the Navy said there were dead bodies floating in the harbor there. > > Where did you live in England? We were at Lakenheath. No, I wasnt that fortunate. I was in London (kidding, love the city). ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2011, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/131 "2011-03-04T00:22:57Z")
But surely you didn’t _summer_ there! ---
**Author:** ![SecretaryofEvil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@SecretaryofEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SecretaryofEvil)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2011, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/132 "2011-03-04T02:31:07Z")
> [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](#): > > Nah, all my African violents are purple. lol ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2011, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/133 "2011-03-04T04:02:49Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > He tried to let insurance companies cancel after tornadoes. Beebe lowered the sales tax on groceries. Not a tough call for me. 🙂 Nor did Beebe pardon two murderers because they found Jesus who murdered again when they were released. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2011, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/134 "2011-03-04T12:09:45Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Nor did Beebe pardon two murderers because they found Jesus who murdered again when they were released. Jesus murdered again? Wow. Even the death penalty doesn’t prevent recidivism… ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2011, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/135 "2011-03-04T13:02:16Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > > [@carnivorousplant](#): > > > > Nor did Beebe pardon two murderers because they found Jesus who murdered again when they were released. > > Jesus murdered again? Wow. Even the death penalty doesn’t prevent recidivism… I would usually refrain from criticizing a perfectly good snark, but 'round these parts Huckabee’s “born-again” clemency is still kind of a [touchy subject](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurice_Clemmons). (To be at least somewhat fair, the Arkansas parole board also approved Clemmons’ release. Also, when notified of later violations in Washington that violated his parole, Arkansas authorities quickly decided they didn’t want him back and would not seek extradition.) ---
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2011, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/136 "2011-03-04T13:18:56Z")
> [@joebuck20](#): > > So by his reasoning, should we also be suspicious of all those teabaggers dressed in 18th century revolutionary garb? I wouldn’t think they’d be overly fond of British imperialism either. Or the DAR. Who take great pride in their (great great) grandfathers being oppressed by British Imperialisim and throwing off that tyranny. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2011, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/137 "2011-03-04T23:14:35Z")
> [@OttoDaFe](#): > > Also, when notified of later violations in Washington that violated his parole, Arkansas authorities quickly decided they didn’t want him back and would not seek extradition.) They probably figured Huckleberry would release him again. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2011, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/138 "2011-03-05T05:39:29Z")
Huckabee must be encouraged by all press overage he got. Because he’s got more to say. And this time his target is Natalie Portman. In a radio interview with Michael Medved, Huckabee said: > [@](#): > > You know Michael, one of the things that’s troubling is that people see a Natalie Portman or some other Hollywood starlet who boasts of, ‘Hey look, you know, we’re having children, we’re not married, but we’re having these children, and they’re doing just fine.’ But there aren’t really a lot of single moms out there who are making millions of dollars every year for being in a movie. And I think it gives a distorted image that yes, not everybody hires nannies, and caretakers, and nurses. Most single moms are very poor, uneducated, can’t get a job, and if it weren’t for government assistance, their kids would be starving to death and never have health care. And that’s the story that we’re not seeing, and it’s unfortunate that we glorify and glamorize the idea of out of children wedlock. > > You know, right now, 75 percent of black kids in this country are born out of wedlock. 61 percent of Hispanic kids - across the board, 41 percent of all live births in America are out of wedlock births. And the cost of that is simply staggering. I’m not sure what exactly Huckabee thought Portman should have done. Had an abortion before the Oscar ceremony so she wouldn’t appear pregnant? ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2011, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/139 "2011-03-05T05:42:37Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Huckabee must be encouraged by all press overage he got. Because he’s got more to say. And this time his target is Natalie Portman. In a radio interview with Michael Medved, Huckabee said: > > …You know Michael, one of the things that’s troubling is that people see a Natalie Portman or some other Hollywood starlet who boasts of, ‘Hey look, you know, we’re having children, we’re not married, but we’re having these children, and they’re doing just fine…’ > I’m not sure what exactly Huckabee thought Portman should have done. Had an abortion before the Oscar ceremony so she wouldn’t appear pregnant? I wonder what he thinks of Bristol Palin. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2011, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/140 "2011-03-05T06:22:05Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Huckabee must be encouraged by all press overage he got. Because he’s got more to say. And this time his target is Natalie Portman. In a radio interview with Michael Medved, Huckabee said:I’m not sure what exactly Huckabee thought Portman should have done. Had an abortion before the Oscar ceremony so she wouldn’t appear pregnant? He is encouraging the poor Republicans, who are encouraged to vote for Family Values and against Gun Control (like they could afford an ersatz assault rifle) to vote in condemnation of wealthy people who have children like trailer trash. 🙂 He is appealing to his voter base. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247.md?page=8)