# Huckabee "misspoke"? Yeah, right!! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 2, 2011, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247 "2011-03-02T19:01:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2011, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/141 "2011-03-05T06:57:41Z")
It’s telling how he mentioned rich Hollywood actress single mothers, black single mothers, and hispanic single mothers. It’s sad that Huckabee apparently feels that saying these kind of things will help get him a Presidential nomination. He’s showing he can appeal to “the base”. ---
**Author:** ![ricksummon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ricksummon/32/3333_2.png) [@ricksummon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ricksummon)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2011, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/142 "2011-03-05T14:43:35Z")
> [@](#): > > Most single moms are very poor, uneducated, can’t get a job, and if it weren’t for government assistance, their kids would be starving to death and never have **health care.** But… he’s a **Republican!** Doesn’t he think not having health care is a **good** thing? ---
**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2011, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/143 "2011-03-05T14:55:57Z")
> [@](#): > > **Mike Huckabee** said: > > You know Michael, one of the things that’s troubling is that people see a Natalie Portman or some other Hollywood starlet who boasts of, ‘Hey look, you know, we’re having children, we’re not married, but we’re having these children, and they’re doing just fine.’ But there aren’t really a lot of single moms out there who are making millions of dollars every year for being in a movie. And I think it gives a distorted image that yes, not everybody hires nannies, and caretakers, and nurses. Most single moms are very poor, uneducated, can’t get a job, and if it weren’t for government assistance, their kids would be starving to death and never have health care. And that’s the story that we’re not seeing, and it’s unfortunate that we glorify and glamorize the idea of out of children wedlock. > > You know, right now, 75 percent of black kids in this country are born out of wedlock. 61 percent of Hispanic kids - across the board, 41 percent of all live births in America are out of wedlock births. And the cost of that is simply staggering. WTF is that even supposed to mean??? Children born out of wedlock are more costly than the ones born in marriage? Can somebody run a brain scan on fatso here, it’s not outrageous claims territory anymore, I think we’ve entered La-La Land here. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2011, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/144 "2011-03-05T15:20:01Z")
> [@Capitaine\_Zombie](#): > > WTF is that even supposed to mean??? Children born out of wedlock are more costly than the ones born in marriage? Seems perfectly clear to me. Pregnancy licenses, based on income. Brilliant! ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2011, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/145 "2011-03-05T16:22:39Z")
> [@Capitaine\_Zombie](#): > > WTF is that even supposed to mean??? Children born out of wedlock are more costly than the ones born in marriage? Can somebody run a brain scan on fatso here, it’s not outrageous claims territory anymore, I think we’ve entered La-La Land here. Eh? His meaning is pretty clear. Poor single mothers require more in social services like healthcare and foodstamps, and those programs cost the gov’t. He spells it out in the first paragraph of the quote. Dunno why he picked Portman as someone glorifying single mom-hood though. I thought she was getting married to the father, which seems like it should be the sort of thing Huckabee would support. Maybe he’s just still pissed how much Episode 1 sucked and is lashing out? ---
**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2011, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/146 "2011-03-05T16:34:48Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > Eh? His meaning is pretty clear. Poor single mothers require more in social services like healthcare and foodstamps, and those programs cost the gov’t. He spells it out in the first paragraph of the quote. Sorry, but that doesnt make any sense. He’s not lashing at poor mothers, he’s lashing at _unmarried_ poor mothers. What would they being married change anything in their social/money problems? ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2011, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/147 "2011-03-05T16:40:52Z")
> [@Capitaine\_Zombie](#): > > Sorry, but that doesnt make any sense. He’s not lashing at poor mothers, he’s lashing at _unmarried_ poor mothers. What would they being married change anything in their social/money problems? Because families with two people to earn money/take care of children are less likely to need gov’t services then ones where a single mother is both trying to watch the children and be the breadwinner for the family. ---
**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2011, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/148 "2011-03-05T16:58:33Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > Because families with two people to earn money/take care of children are less likely to need gov’t services then ones where a single mother is both trying to watch the children and be the breadwinner for the family. There’s no more obligation in marriage to have a job than in celibacy. This is just plain stupidity: unemployed unmarried or single people having mutliple children they can’t support = bad unemployed married people having multiple children they cant support = good The only criterion in his analysis is whether or not the people having children are married. Sorry but that’s a dumb argument, even more so coming from someone that probably has very negative views of either abortion or contraceptives. Talk about wanting to have the cake and eat it. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2011, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/149 "2011-03-05T17:02:02Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > Eh? His meaning is pretty clear. Poor single mothers require more in social services like healthcare and foodstamps, and those programs cost the gov’t. He spells it out in the first paragraph of the quote. > > Dunno why he picked Portman as someone glorifying single mom-hood though. I thought she was getting married to the father, which seems like it should be the sort of thing Huckabee would support. Maybe he’s just still pissed how much Episode 1 sucked and is lashing out? The article I read in the paper today noted that her acceptance speech at the Oscars in which she said the guy had given her the greatest gift (ie, her yet to be born child). He said that the greatest gift would have been for him to marry her, and that by “advertising” her pregnancy in such a public forum was doing a disservice to society. It’s Murphy Brown redux. I think it’s a cheap shot at Portman, but it’s hardly something I begrudge him saying since there is some truth to what he’s talking about. Single motherhood for most women sucks. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2011, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/150 "2011-03-05T17:10:32Z")
I heard some discussion on talk radio that there’s a conspiracy theory going around that Huckabee was really taking a subliminal shot at Palin in preparation for the GOP Primaries. By Targeting Portman, and by lamenting unwed pregnancies in general, he’s undermining Palin’s moral authority without saying her name. As much as she loves to make herself the victim, there’s no good way for her to respond without appearing to be in favor of bastard babies. That’s the theory, anyway. I don’t know if Huckabee’ that clever, but I can’t say I know that’s he’s _not_. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2011, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/151 "2011-03-05T17:20:38Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I don’t know if Huckabee’ that clever, but I can’t say I know that’s he’s _not_. Perhaps “low animal cunning” is a more appropriate term. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2011, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/152 "2011-03-05T17:28:35Z")
> [@Capitaine\_Zombie](#): > > There’s no more obligation in marriage to have a job than in celibacy. This is just plain stupidity: > unemployed unmarried or single people having mutliple children they can’t support = bad > unemployed married people having multiple children they cant support = good > > The only criterion in his analysis is whether or not the people having children are married. Sorry but that’s a dumb argument, even more so coming from someone that probably has very negative views of either abortion or contraceptives. Talk about wanting to have the cake and eat it. You do realize that at bottom it’s all about not wanting people to have sex just for fun, right? ---
**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2011, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/153 "2011-03-05T17:31:41Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > You do realize that at bottom it’s all about not wanting people to have sex just for fun, right? More of having to pander to meddling busybodies about your sex life. That’s the power puritans everywhere want to have on other people. I wonder how Huckabee would feel if everytime he gulped a burger someone felt entitled to comment. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2011, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/154 "2011-03-05T17:38:13Z")
> [@Capitaine\_Zombie](#): > > I wonder how Huckabee would feel if everytime he gulped a burger someone felt entitled to comment. He preaches about[that,](http://www.mikehuckabee.com/quit-digging-your-grave-with-a-knife-and-fork) too. ---
**Author:** ![Baal\_Houtham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baal_houtham/32/13604_2.png) [@Baal\_Houtham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baal_Houtham)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2011, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/155 "2011-03-05T17:39:23Z")
> [@Rhythmdvl](#): > > What a difference perspective makes. If Pete Stark (an atheist member of congress) objected to the phrase “act of god” in preference for “act of nature” in a piece of legislation, I daresay many people decrying Huckabee would praise Stark. > > Not defending Huckabee here, nor chanting ha-ha hypocrites! Just making a sociological observation. I’m one of posters decrying the use of “In God We Trust” in the recent Pit thread on Ceremonial Deism. Personally I’ve got nothing against Huckabee’s stand against the phrase “acts of God.” I grew up in a fundamentalist family, and fundies often have strong, sincere objections to things most people would have no problem with. Of course, that’s true of almost everyone on the planet; there’s no shortage of hot buttons. The phrase Acts of God doesn’t have the stink of State sponsored religion that In God We Trust has (YNostrilsMV), but replacing it with more secular, more literal, language, would not be a bad thing. Maybe even a good thing, if it’s presence needlessly offends some people. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2011, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/156 "2011-03-05T17:45:12Z")
> [@Baal\_Houtham](#): > > replacing it with more secular, more literal, language, would not be a bad thing. Maybe even a good thing, if it’s presence needlessly offends some people. The language in the bill was meant to target insurance company terminology. ---
**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2011, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/157 "2011-03-05T17:46:41Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > He preaches about[that,](http://www.mikehuckabee.com/quit-digging-your-grave-with-a-knife-and-fork) too. That’s funny because the pic on the page is “Slim” Huckabee, maybe they should keep in touch with his current figure. He seems to have regained almost all of the fat he had lost. He will probably have eating disorders all his life, but you should always take a methead advice on how to overcome drug addiction. Especially when he’s tripping. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/158 "2011-03-06T01:55:48Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > Because families with two people to earn money/take care of children are less likely to need gov’t services then ones where a single mother is both trying to watch the children and be the breadwinner for the family. But how does any of that apply to Natalie Portman? She’d just turn her kid over to be raised by Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/159 "2011-03-06T02:54:29Z")
“Hello, Madge? Stehanie, I’m at the daycare. Look, I’m very worried about the Portman child. Well, he waggled his fingers at one of the other children, and the child began choking…” ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247/160 "2011-03-06T03:26:28Z")
The kid’s got to do something to show some toughness. His dad’s a ballet dancer, for cripe’s sake. He’s a walking target. If he’s got to use the dark side, he’s got to use the dark side. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-misspoke-yeah-right/573247.md?page=9)