# Huckabee, Palin, Trump...

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-palin-trump/578472>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 15, 2011, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-palin-trump/578472 "2011-04-15T12:26:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![fumster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9c0ed/32.png) [@fumster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fumster)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2011, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-palin-trump/578472/21 "2011-04-15T15:23:29Z")

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> [@Todderbob](#):
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> I know I said it in 2008, but I’ll say it again for 2012. If Palin gets within spitting distance of the Presidency, I’ll move.
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> I don’t know where, maybe antarctica – there are no fucking insane people living _there_ at least.

Except [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=604127)person

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2011, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-palin-trump/578472/22 "2011-04-15T16:20:10Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Romney has led in the polls that I’ve seen.

I look forward to once again hearing a Massachusetts businessman and former governor, son of a Michigan governor and holder of a JD and MBA from Harvard, and who is worth a quarter of a billion dollars, complain about the dominance of “Eastern elites” in American politics. 🙂

As for Palin, about the only person in the country who would actually benefit from her election is George W. Bush. Just like Bush’s own presidency caused a lot of people to see his father is a more sympathetic light, i think Palin in the White House would lead some people to pine for the halcyon days of a GWB presidency.

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**Author:** ![Todderbob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e47774/32.png) [@Todderbob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Todderbob)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2011, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-palin-trump/578472/23 "2011-04-15T16:27:39Z")

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> [@sh1bu1](#):
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> Except [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=604127)person

I’m going to build a rocket and habitat, and move to mars, and none of you motherfuckers can come.

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**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2011, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-palin-trump/578472/24 "2011-04-15T16:36:40Z")

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> [@Todderbob](#):
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> I’m going to build a rocket and habitat, and move to mars, and none of you motherfuckers can come.

Charlie Sheen apparently became a rock star there. Can’t be a star without an audience. Maybe Io?

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**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2011, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-palin-trump/578472/25 "2011-04-15T16:50:03Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Trump was quoted on MSNBC this AM as saying he thought he had great relationship with “the Blacks.” At least he didn’t say “those Blacks”…

[According to this](http://www.theroot.com/views/how-donald-trump-lost-black-vote), it might hurt him.

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> “The Blacks”
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> It’s 2011. It’s perfectly respectable to refer to African Americans as “black people,” “the black community” and maybe even “black folks” – if you can carry it off. But “the blacks?” No.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2011, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-palin-trump/578472/26 "2011-04-15T20:19:01Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> I look forward to once again hearing a Massachusetts businessman and former governor, son of a Michigan governor and holder of a JD and MBA from Harvard, and who is worth a quarter of a billion dollars, complain about the dominance of “Eastern elites” in American politics. 🙂

But, he’s, like, totally in touch with the common man, dude!

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2011, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-palin-trump/578472/27 "2011-04-15T20:23:44Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> But, he’s, like, totally in touch with the common man, dude!

I thought he was, like, totally in touch with the common dude, man!

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2011, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-palin-trump/578472/28 "2011-04-15T21:18:45Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Trump was quoted on MSNBC this AM as saying he thought he had great relationship with “the Blacks.” At least he didn’t say “those Blacks”…

Conrad and Barbera Black, maybe? Not that having a great relationship with Conrad Black is anything to crow about.

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**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2011, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-palin-trump/578472/29 "2011-04-15T21:22:25Z")

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Huckabee, Palin and Trump… oh, my!

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2011, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-palin-trump/578472/30 "2011-04-16T00:40:34Z")

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> [@The\_Tooth](#):
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> Conrad and Barbera Black, maybe? Not that having a great relationship with Conrad Black is anything to crow about.

One of the MSNBC guys made that joke, too.

Only in America can we have a potential presidential candidate who can’t really get his campaign (allegedly) going until his reality show is finished for the season.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2011, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-palin-trump/578472/31 "2011-04-17T04:27:54Z")

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> [@Captain\_Amazing](#):
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> …Goldwater didn’t really emerge as a major candidate until January of 1964.

Man, I miss Goldwater. Looks pretty good compared to the frontrunners.

Certainly had ten times the integrity.

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2011, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-palin-trump/578472/32 "2011-04-17T04:36:05Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> Man, I miss Goldwater. Looks pretty good compared to the frontrunners.

Meh, I don’t like Hukabee, Palin or Trump, but at least they’re not pro-segregation.

Heck, Trump even lets some of the blacks be his friends.

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2011, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-palin-trump/578472/33 "2011-04-17T05:04:16Z")

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> [@Wheelz](#):
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> If I had to put money down today I’d put it on Romney.  
> But I’m not putting money down at all.

Good idea not to put your money on that idea. I think [this](http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20053484-503544.html) pretty much guarantees there is no way Romney will get the nomination.

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> I think the citizenship test has been passed. I believe the president was born in the United States.

As long as a significant number of the Republican base continues to live in Crazyville any candidate who acknowledges Obama is legitmately a citizen is seriously hurting his/her chances of winning the nomination.

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2011, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-palin-trump/578472/34 "2011-04-17T05:15:40Z")

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> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#):
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> As long as a significant number of the Republican base continues to live in Crazyville any candidate who acknowledges Obama is legitmately a citizen is seriously hurting his/her chances of winning the nomination.

Several of the potential nominees have explicitly said they think Obama is a citizen. While birtherism is surprisingly prevalent amongst the GOP, I don’t really think its so much so that its a deal breaker. By the time of the debates, I doubt any of the serious candidates will be willing to pretend to be birthers.

[This](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romneycare) is the reason Romney won’t be the GOP nominee.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2011, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-palin-trump/578472/35 "2011-04-17T06:22:33Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Trump was quoted on MSNBC this AM as saying he thought he had great relationship with “the Blacks.”

Of COURSE he does! He’s hired hundreds of them as janitors in his properties.

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2011, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-palin-trump/578472/36 "2011-04-17T06:33:36Z")

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> [@Simplicio](#):
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> Several of the potential nominees have explicitly said they think Obama is a citizen. While birtherism is surprisingly prevalent amongst the GOP, I don’t really think its so much so that its a deal breaker. By the time of the debates, I doubt any of the serious candidates will be willing to pretend to be birthers.
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> [This](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romneycare) is the reason Romney won’t be the GOP nominee.

I agree the healthcare stuff isn’t going to do Romney any favors. I also think his religion is going to hurt him more than some people think. So, frankly I think he has problems for a number of reasons.

By my count the only other potential candidates who have said they think Obama was born in Hawaii are Pawlenty and Barbour. And they didn’t make statements about it until after Romney did from what I can tell.

Huckabee, Palin, Bachman, Vitter, Cuccinelli, Inhofe, and of course The Donald have all spouted birther nonsense.

I can’t find anything indicating either Mitch Daniels or Rick Santorum have commented on the topic. It appears Gingrich has played it both ways at times.

I don’t know how big a part of the Republican base really, really, _really_ buy into the birther baloney, but every time some potential candidate spouts off and makes noise about Obama’s birth they seemingly shoot up in the polls. At the least, there is something about making an issue of Obama’s “otherness” that appeals to part of the base and gets them fired up.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2011, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-palin-trump/578472/37 "2011-04-17T07:31:22Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> The only redeeming thing a Palin presidency would bring would be to finally get the tiresome “I’d leave the country” crowd to actually leave. Except most probably wouldn’t.

:Checks forum:

No, the best thing about it would be that someone could rape the PotUS and have the victim admit it. And really, despite the fact that it would probably lead directly to a 300-million-man snit that nuked life from planet Earth in impotent rage, man does the USA need that kind of abject humiliation.

ETA: On second thought, this is a good reason to support Huckabee. He’s pretty Christian. If you raped him, he wouldn’t lash out by nuking random countries, he’d forgive you. Which would be sort of the equivalent to Jimmy Carter giving away the Panama Canal in voters’ minds…man, I haven’t thought this through.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2011, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-palin-trump/578472/38 "2011-04-17T07:59:00Z")

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> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#):
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> By my count the only other potential candidates who have said they think Obama was born in Hawaii are Pawlenty and Barbour. And they didn’t make statements about it until after Romney did from what I can tell.
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> Huckabee, Palin, Bachman, Vitter, Cuccinelli, Inhofe, and of course The Donald have all spouted birther nonsense.

Palin is trying to have it both ways, [sometimes even in the same breath.](http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0411/52880.html)

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2011, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-palin-trump/578472/39 "2011-04-17T11:32:35Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> One of the MSNBC guys made that joke, too.

I’m not one to shy away from the low hanging fruit when it comes to a bad pun.

> [@](#):
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> Only in America can we have a potential presidential candidate who can’t really get his campaign (allegedly) going until his reality show is finished for the season.

I hope you’re right. It’s not a trend I’d like to see move north.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2011, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-palin-trump/578472/40 "2011-04-17T12:19:48Z")

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> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> :Checks forum:
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> No, the best thing about it would be that someone could rape the PotUS and have the victim admit it. And really, despite the fact that it would probably lead directly to a 300-million-man snit that nuked life from planet Earth in impotent rage, man does the USA need that kind of abject humiliation.
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> ETA: On second thought, this is a good reason to support Huckabee. He’s pretty Christian. If you raped him, he wouldn’t lash out by nuking random countries, he’d forgive you. Which would be sort of the equivalent to Jimmy Carter giving away the Panama Canal in voters’ minds…man, I haven’t thought this through.

What the hell?

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