# Huckabee-Sanders and the N-word

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-sanders-and-the-n-word/819664>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [August 15, 2018, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-sanders-and-the-n-word/819664 "2018-08-15T16:28:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-sanders-and-the-n-word/819664/41 "2018-08-16T21:41:44Z")

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> [@snowthx](#):
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> That is the 2nd time that same link was posted in this very thread (#13). I hope this time it will be read.

Doubtful but at least it can be pointed out that he’s actively avoiding it.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-sanders-and-the-n-word/819664/42 "2018-08-17T07:33:11Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Just so you [never make that mistake](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/clinton-body-bags/) again.  
> Read the _whole_ thing.

I’m afraid you may be unfamiliar with **Mr. lining**. Some of us are not completely sure that he is completely ingenuous or completely motivated by a search for objective truth.

Rumor has it that foreign agents post messages which are not completely true on some message-boards to disrupt American dialog. I am not completely sure that SDMB is immune from such attacks.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 9:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-sanders-and-the-n-word/819664/43 "2018-08-17T09:56:57Z")

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> [@Silver\_lining](#):
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> Lots of people connected to Bill Clinton, or with someone who was in Clinton’s sphere died violently or by suicide. Those facts?
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> I’m not pointing the finger of blame, just saying it is very odd.

As others have noted: [Clinton Body Bags | Snopes.com](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/clinton-body-bags/)

And as I have said to you before, you need to find better news sources. Yours are crap.

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**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-sanders-and-the-n-word/819664/44 "2018-08-17T12:54:14Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Trump hired her. Trump is a corrupt idiot who hired many corrupt idiots, many of whom have already turned on him.

I think this pretty much sums up the Trump administration. The number of half-baked shady and flaky characters associated with this administration is incredible.

Led by that ultimate half-baked shady and flaky character, Trump himself, but including guys like Scaramucci, that other guy who was/wasn’t going to comply with a subpoena, some other guys I’m forgetting, and Omarosa.

It’s actually quite entertaining, though in a train-wreck kind of way.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-sanders-and-the-n-word/819664/45 "2018-08-17T13:39:54Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> Rumor has it that foreign agents post messages which are not completely true on some message-boards to disrupt American dialog. I am not completely sure that SDMB is immune from such attacks.

The SDMB can’t possibly be a very rewarding assignment for such an agent. Maybe the agent is being punished for some transgression. The SDMB could be their Siberia.

Well, _Siberia_ is their Siberia, but you know what I mean.

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**Author:** ![Ashtura](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ashtura/32/2963_2.png) [@Ashtura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ashtura)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-sanders-and-the-n-word/819664/46 "2018-08-17T14:05:40Z")

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Has SHS ever\* guaranteed\* something somebody else didn’t do something? I agree she should have said the President’s comments speak for themselves, but I don’t think it’s reasonable to ask someone to guarantee somebody else _didn’t_ do something.

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**Author:** ![Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/channing_idaho_banks/32/250_2.png) [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Channing_Idaho_Banks)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-sanders-and-the-n-word/819664/47 "2018-08-17T14:21:23Z")

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> [@Ashtura](#):
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> Has SHS ever\* guaranteed\* something somebody else didn’t do something? I agree she should have said the President’s comments speak for themselves, but I don’t think it’s reasonable to ask someone to guarantee somebody else _didn’t_ do something.

They’re asking if Sanders had heard the tape, and therefore had knowledge of it.

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**Author:** ![Ashtura](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ashtura/32/2963_2.png) [@Ashtura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ashtura)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-sanders-and-the-n-word/819664/48 "2018-08-17T14:25:18Z")

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> [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](#):
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> They’re asking if Sanders had heard the tape, and therefore had knowledge of it.

“Can you stand at the podium and guarantee the American people will never hear Donald Trump utter the ‘n-word’ on a recording in any context?"

That’s not the same thing as asking if she heard a tape. Asking if she had heard the tape is a reasonable question. Asking if she can _guarantee_ it doesn’t exist is not reasonable.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-sanders-and-the-n-word/819664/49 "2018-08-17T15:47:32Z")

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> [@Silver\_lining](#):
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> It a good thing she didn’t cross a Clinton. People who do seem to be accident prone.

Drop this stupid hijack. One, it’s false. Two, it’s stupid. Three, it’s irrelevant to this thread.

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Everyone else - you don’t need to take the bait every time. If you do, the factual refutation is fine, but this is not:

> [@septimus](#):
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> I’m afraid you may be unfamiliar with **Mr. lining**. Some of us are not completely sure that he is completely ingenuous or completely motivated by a search for objective truth.
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> Rumor has it that foreign agents post messages which are not completely true on some message-boards to disrupt American dialog. I am not completely sure that SDMB is immune from such attacks.

Don’t imply that other posters are Russian trolls, or posting dishonestly.

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> [@Silver\_lining](#):
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> Yes they would be stupid enough to hire a popular African American for their own "political " reasons, even if she was a drama queen. Bill might have another idea this his cigar or a pool stick.

> [@Silver\_lining](#):
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> Lots of people connected to Bill Clinton, or with someone who was in Clinton’s sphere died violently or by suicide. Those facts?
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> I’m not pointing the finger of blame, just saying it is very odd.

The first comment could just be a stupid throw away line. The next two, especially the cigar or pool stick line - This isn’t argument, it’s not even partisan commentary. I can’t see as anything other than trolling. This is a warning for trolling.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-sanders-and-the-n-word/819664/50 "2018-08-17T18:28:00Z")

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> As others have noted: [Clinton Body Bags | Snopes.com](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/clinton-body-bags/)
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> And as I have said to you before, you need to find better news sources. Yours are crap.

Report and move On, I say.

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**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-sanders-and-the-n-word/819664/51 "2018-08-17T18:47:06Z")

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> [@snowthx](#):
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> Agree it is a nothingburger. It’s not anything most people don’t already know about the President anyway. And even if a tape is released that unequivocally has him saying that, so what? It’s not like it will make any of his supporters support him less, and it wont make his detractors detract any more than they already are. Unless he broke some law, it wont further the case to remove him from office.
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> And, Trump need not worry about it offending any of his close advisers, or people in his cabinet, since there are so few black people in important positions in the administration.

I’ve heard a few people elsewhere express a similar sentiment, and maybe I’m being naive, but I actually think if such a tape exists and is widely played, it would be quite damaging to him. Of course most people already believe he’s a racist, but belief and actually hearing that incendiary word are different. Right now, there is a fig leaf over his racism that allows his supporters/enablers to hide/deflect. (Perhaps not very convincingly, but still…) But with this - if it is true and taped - there is no hiding, no explanation or equivocation that would wash with the vast majority of people. And 45 might not give a shit, but congresspeople sure do.

There’s a lot of racism in this country, but we have at least progressed a metaphorical millimeter to a place where saying the n-word out loud is absolutely verboten if you want to maintain your reputation. Now, I’m not saying he’d be removed from office over it, because it’s not a high crime or misdemeanor, but I believe it would be very damaging nonetheless, and would ruin any chance of re-election, making him a very early, very lame duck.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-sanders-and-the-n-word/819664/52 "2018-08-17T19:45:03Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Report and move On, I say.

Being wrong doesn’t conflict with board rules.

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2018, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabee-sanders-and-the-n-word/819664/53 "2018-08-18T00:51:53Z")

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You just know that the folks around trump White House refer to it as “the n------- tape”.

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