# Huckabee's 2016 bid

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabees-2016-bid/719318>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [May 5, 2015, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabees-2016-bid/719318 "2015-05-05T15:48:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2015, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabees-2016-bid/719318/41 "2015-05-10T18:46:31Z")

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A woman Congressperson suggested on NPR that lawyers are win or lose in court and operate like that in politics. (Poly, Latin, “many” tics, "blood sucking.) They dislike compromise, which is sometimes the best solution.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2015, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabees-2016-bid/719318/42 "2015-05-10T20:39:13Z")

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Gosh, I was _sooo_ wrong! Turns out, that whole diabetes thing was just about healthy eating!

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> …On Sunday, the Republican candidate insisted to CBS host Bob Schieffer that the diabetes treatment had been “about the healthy eating, watching the kinds of foods one takes in.”
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> “You know, I don’t have to defend everything that I’ve ever done,” Huckabee shrugged. “I’m not doing those infomercials obviously now as a candidate for president.”
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> “But if that’s worse thing that somebody can say to me, that I advocated for people that have diabetes, to do something to reverse and stop the incredible pain of that then I’m going to be a heck of a good president.”
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> “I have diabetes,” Schieffer pointed out. “But you were also selling pills of some sort, were you not?”
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> “No, no! That’s a misnomer,” Huckabee insisted. “One of the elements of the plan was dietary supplements, but it’s not the fundamental thing. The fundamental thing is always, as you and I both know, it’s exercise, it’s good eating habits, it’s maintaining sugar levels. It’s not eating a bunch of junk food.”…

> **[Huckabee On His Sketchy Diabetes Infomercials: It's Proof 'I'm Going To Be A...](https://crooksandliars.com/2015/05/huckabee-says-his-sketchy-diabetes)**
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> Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee said on Sunday that he was proud that his company had helped to sell Bible-based cancer cures and sketchy programs to "reverse" diabetes.

I am so ashamed! I go now to the river, to perform the ancient Tasmanian ritual of self-abasement, accompanied by chorus of bitter virgins, intoning dirges of woe and humiliation!

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2015, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabees-2016-bid/719318/43 "2015-05-10T23:45:03Z")

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Nobody who uses the word “misnomer” in place of the word “misconception” deserves to be allowed to speak in public, let alone lead the country (or even deliver moral instruction).

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabees-2016-bid/719318/44 "2015-05-11T00:02:09Z")

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I don’t think that Huckabee is likely to be the nominee, but how about the running mate? He seems to me like he’d be much more appealing as a vice-presidential candidate than as presidential, and would probably draw people to the ticket.

Then again, I thought that in 2012, and he was completely ignored then, too.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabees-2016-bid/719318/45 "2015-05-11T00:28:26Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> George Will does not like this guy. He wrote a pretty scathing review published in the SJ Merc today. I assume it’s syndicated across most major newspapers.

Will tore him one, that’s for sure.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabees-2016-bid/719318/46 "2015-05-11T15:08:36Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> I’d say that in more practical terms, lawyers present more issues in regards to whether they are fit to be leaders than Baptist ministers. We’ve just gotten used to lawyers, who have pretty much created the political situation that exists. But that doesn’t make them any less problematic. you just get a different sort of problematic when it comes to electing former clergy.

Legislators make laws. It makes perfect sense that some if not most of them should be lawyers, who know what the law is and how laws work. Many of our FFs were lawyers. OTOH, there is no good reason whatsoever why any of our elected officials should be clergy – their clerical status of course does not disqualify them, but neither is it any kind of qualifying point, and being a lawyer is one.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabees-2016-bid/719318/47 "2015-05-11T15:30:53Z")

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> Legislators make laws.

Well, unless they’re Republicans.

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**Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabees-2016-bid/719318/48 "2015-05-11T15:30:51Z")

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> Originally Posted by adaher View Post  
> I would prioritize adherence to the law, personally. Lawyers have a problem with that.

I deal with lawyers all day, 5 days a week. I don’t like many of them, perhaps most. But I very rarely run across one that has a “problem” with adherence to the law. In fact, I don’t even know what you mean by this accusation.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabees-2016-bid/719318/49 "2015-05-11T20:04:15Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> I don’t think that Huckabee is likely to be the nominee, but how about the running mate? He seems to me like he’d be much more appealing as a vice-presidential candidate than as presidential, and would probably draw people to the ticket.
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> Then again, I thought that in 2012, and he was completely ignored then, too.

Possible but I doubt it. Part of the job is being the administration’s attack dog. I don’t see him as being suited to that.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabees-2016-bid/719318/50 "2015-05-11T20:08:17Z")

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He’s much better suited to hosting a preaching show on cable and peddling quack medicine. And promoting those things via himself, his true career, is all his campaign is about.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabees-2016-bid/719318/51 "2015-05-11T20:09:43Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> He’s much better suited to hosting a preaching show on cable and peddling quack medicine. And promoting those things via himself, his true career, is all his campaign is about.

But, wait!  
There’s more!

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**Author:** ![Wolf333](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf333/32/3460_2.png) [@Wolf333](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolf333)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2015, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabees-2016-bid/719318/52 "2015-05-23T13:15:29Z")

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Apparently, showing your support for a child molester is not a good political strategy.

[http://www.alternet.org/culture/mike-huckabees-facebook-fans-tear-him-shreds-defending-josh-duggar](http://www.alternet.org/culture/mike-huckabees-facebook-fans-tear-him-shreds-defending-josh-duggar)

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2015, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabees-2016-bid/719318/53 "2015-05-24T05:27:33Z")

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He’s an actual Christian. That’s too much even for most people who think they are Christian.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2015, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabees-2016-bid/719318/54 "2015-05-24T05:34:43Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> He’s an actual Christian. That’s too much even for most people who think they are Christian.

If you mean hate-filled and bigoted, I’ll agree.

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**Post date:** [May 24, 2015, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabees-2016-bid/719318/55 "2015-05-24T06:57:46Z")

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[Look at this.](http://www.ontheissues.org/celeb/Mike_Huckabee_Drugs.htm) Huckabee says that sexual predators are more dangerous than drug addicts.

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> We’ve got to quit locking up all the people that we’re mad at and lock up the people that we’re really afraid of, the people who are sexual predators and violent offenders.

Unless, of course, they’re Christians who cover up the crime.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2015, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabees-2016-bid/719318/56 "2015-05-24T07:34:50Z")

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Is someone out there suggesting criminal charges for any member of the Duggar family? And going to the police isn’t exactly a coverup. Besides, this is Arkansas we’re talking about, where governors and sexual predation with the help of state troopers is considered normal.

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**Post date:** [May 24, 2015, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabees-2016-bid/719318/57 "2015-05-24T12:45:02Z")

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You’ll need a mighty big crayon to connect those two dots.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2015, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabees-2016-bid/719318/58 "2015-05-24T12:55:15Z")

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The criticism of Huck here is that he’s standing by the family of a man who molested underage girls as a boy. It does not appear that the family swept it under the rug. Even accounting for their wealth and influence, there was no way a 14 year old was going to prison for these offenses. They dealt with the problem and he realizes that his behavior was inexcusable.

If Huckabee didn’t stand by them, he wouldn’t be much of a Christian. The sinner has repented.

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**Post date:** [May 24, 2015, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabees-2016-bid/719318/59 "2015-05-24T13:47:19Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Is someone out there suggesting criminal charges for any member of the Duggar family? And going to the police isn’t exactly a coverup. Besides, this is Arkansas we’re talking about, where governors and sexual predation with the help of state troopers is considered normal.

As I understand it, [they didn’t go to the police](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/23/josh-duggars-record-destroyed-police_n_7428762.html).

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> Police did not find out about the allegations until 2006, when they were tipped off to a letter discussing the incidents, the AP reports. A family friend had lent another person a book, and the letter was stuck inside.
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> The police report obtained by In Touch indicates Michelle and Jim Bob Duggar told police in 2006 that they had disciplined their son themselves.
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> The couple allegedly said that they sent Josh Duggar to a “Christian program” that “consisted of physical hard work and counseling.” Michelle Duggar later admitted that they actually just sent him to live with a family friend to help with a home remodeling business, according to In Touch.

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**Post date:** [May 24, 2015, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabees-2016-bid/719318/60 "2015-05-24T13:59:18Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Who said anything about what voters Democrats win? I"m talking about which voters control the party. The Democrats are controlled by their richest members, the Hollywood folks, the Wall Street folks. The upside is that it seems to give Democrats the best of both worlds: party of the working man + the sophisticated party of science and cultural liberalism. That’s not sustainable in the long run though. You can be the party of the rubes or the party of the elite. And my side is winning the rubes a little more in every election.

Right, Murdoch and the brother Koch are just hanging out on the sidelines, not controlling a thing.

The GOP has done a good job of putting up Potemkin clubs of middle class voters, but the GOP is no more “controlled” by middle class voters than they are by the poor and indigent.

(Certainly, with the Republican shift to anti-science, anti-intellectual positions, they are catering to the rubes more, but that began with Reagan.)

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