# Huckabee's 2016 bid

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabees-2016-bid/719318>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [May 5, 2015, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabees-2016-bid/719318 "2015-05-05T15:48:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2015, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabees-2016-bid/719318/81 "2015-05-25T00:14:02Z")

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I thought it was when Vince Foster was found floating in the Whitewater River.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2015, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabees-2016-bid/719318/82 "2015-05-25T01:43:11Z")

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Nah, that was Hillary’s doin’. Foster, being gay, rejected her advances so she had him killed.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2015, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabees-2016-bid/719318/83 "2015-05-25T01:46:52Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> Nah, that was Hillary’s doin’. Foster, being gay, rejected her advances so she had him killed.

If the Clintons had him killed :rolleyes:, they would have hired folks who would do a better job disposing of the body.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2015, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabees-2016-bid/719318/84 "2015-05-25T17:42:42Z")

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Chucklebee’s gonna skip the Iowa straw poll. I don’t understand this move, Iowa is one place where he might do well. Incompetence or just proof that he’s just “running” to raise his profile and inflate his speaking fees and book deals?

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**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2015, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabees-2016-bid/719318/85 "2015-05-25T20:31:36Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Chucklebee’s gonna skip the Iowa straw poll. I don’t understand this move, Iowa is one place where he might do well. Incompetence or just proof that he’s just “running” to raise his profile and inflate his speaking fees and book deals?

The Iowa straw poll results mostly reflect a campaign’s willingness to pay to people to participate in it. Maybe he’s short on money.

(Or maybe, after Michelle Bachmann’s win last time around, he figures nobody could ever take the results seriously again.)

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2015, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabees-2016-bid/719318/86 "2015-05-25T20:51:14Z")

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I thought the Republicans had decided not to do a straw poll in Iowa? Or is it just not this year’s straw poll?

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**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2015, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabees-2016-bid/719318/87 "2015-05-26T14:33:37Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> I thought the Republicans had decided not to do a straw poll in Iowa? Or is it just not this year’s straw poll?

According to the Wikipedia article on the straw poll, the only change for 2015 is that the Republican Party put the host city up for bid, so this year it will be held in Boone instead of Ames.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2015, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabees-2016-bid/719318/88 "2015-05-26T15:19:26Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> If Huckabee was dumb enough to associate with a _child molestation issue_, he’s dead politically.

The fact that he still has a political career after [arranging parole for a rapist-murderer who then proceeded to rape and kill again](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_DuMond#Arkansas_parole_controversy) and also for [a felon who then proceeded to kill four cops](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurice_Clemmons#Clemency) may have given him a feeling of invulnerability in that regard.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2015, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabees-2016-bid/719318/89 "2015-05-26T15:48:31Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> The fact that he still has a political career after [arranging parole for a rapist-murderer who then proceeded to rape and kill again](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_DuMond#Arkansas_parole_controversy) and also for [a felon who then proceeded to kill four cops](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurice_Clemmons#Clemency) may have given him a feeling of invulnerability in that regard.

Paging Willie Horton . . .

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2015, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabees-2016-bid/719318/90 "2015-05-26T15:59:57Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Paging Willie Horton . . .

Yeah, probably, if Huckster ever rises to the level of a serious threat to one of the other candidates, which makes it all the more puzzling that he’d bother to run (he already _had_ the [wingnut-welfare media gig](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huckabee), so it’s not a matter of auditioning for that).

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**Author:** ![Enlightening\_Meditation](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecc23a/32.png) [@Enlightening\_Meditation](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enlightening_Meditation)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2015, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabees-2016-bid/719318/91 "2015-05-27T02:53:15Z")

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Huckabee stinks at fundraising relatively speaking. He knows that he has no chance but he wants to be a part of the debates and keep himself in the spotlight. He is too extreme even for the GOP primary aside from a handful of states.

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**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2015, 9:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabees-2016-bid/719318/92 "2015-05-30T09:43:42Z")

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I wonder how this will impact Huckabee’s candidacy:

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> According to the official police report, after Josh Duggar’s parents found out he was molesting his sisters, and they spent a year doing NOTHING about it, Jim Bob Duggar sent his son for counseling with a “family friend” who was renovating a building in Little Rock, Arkansas. It turns out the program Josh went to was the Basic Life Principles Training Center, led by none other than Duggar family BFF Bill Gothard, the creepy man who, as your Wonkette reported Sunday, “coincidentally has been accused of sexual abuse and harassment by more than 30 teenage girls.”
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> But here’s a fun fact! Arkansas courts ALSO sent juvenile offenders to Gothard’s programs, housed in an old VA hospital in Little Rock, donated by some other good friends, the Green family, owners of Hobby Lobby.
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> Wonder how somebody as gross and creepy as Bill Gothard got all that official endorsement from the state, and how theoretically non-religious courts might think it’s okay to send juvenile offenders to a guy who thinks when little boys change little girl babies’ diapers, that the girls share responsibility for any subsequent abuse that happens, because they have VAGINAS and they’re RIGHT THERE. If you are thinking “Hmmm, I wonder if Mike Huckabee has anything to do with this,” you are wearing your thinking pants correctly! It turns out that, as Arkansas governor, Huckabee thought it would be great to use Gothard’s teachings and programs for … just about everything!
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> [Wonkette](http://wonkette.com/586542/guess-whos-mixed-up-in-duggar-family-sex-crimes-now-hobby-lobby-of-course#ISWvl2dHB3siq7gi.99)

as the article queries, Maybe this is why Huckabee was so quick to jump in and defend Josh Duggar. Maybe Huckabee knew that Jim Bob and Michelle had sent Josh to their mutual buddy and mentor Bill Gothard, therefore everything is All Better Now. So what if Gothard may have sexually abused or harassed 30 girls?"

Even among evangelicals, this can’t be good, can it? It certainly isn’t among the rest of us.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2015, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabees-2016-bid/719318/93 "2015-06-03T05:20:36Z")

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More fun with Huckabee. Here he [mocks transgendered people](http://www.sfgate.com/news/politics/article/Huckabee-I-wish-I-could-have-felt-like-a-woman-6301760.php).

[QUOTE=Mike Huckabee]  
The conservative former Arkansas governor said he wished someone told him “he could have felt like a woman” in high school, so that Huckabee could shower with the girls.  
[/QUOTE]  
In the phrase “playing to his base” he makes sure it is fully vested in both meanings of “base”.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2015, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabees-2016-bid/719318/94 "2015-06-03T06:12:03Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> More fun with Huckabee. Here he [mocks transgendered people](http://www.sfgate.com/news/politics/article/Huckabee-I-wish-I-could-have-felt-like-a-woman-6301760.php).
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> In the phrase “playing to his base” he makes sure it is fully vested in both meanings of “base”.

Not only is he mocking transgendered people, he’s also intimating that he thinks it’s acceptable to deceive a women if it means seeing them naked. It’s like he’s admitting that sexual assault is something he thinks is kinda cool.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2015, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabees-2016-bid/719318/95 "2015-06-03T06:51:59Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Not only is he mocking transgendered people, he’s also intimating that he thinks it’s acceptable to deceive a women if it means seeing them naked. It’s like he’s admitting that sexual assault is something he thinks is kinda cool.

Yes, well, lying is the main requirement for any pastor. You get used to it to where it’s not a sin anymore. Lie to get in the shower with girls, if you’re caught, tell them it was for Jesus. Prayer Camp awaits!

This is why I still say, no preacher or pastor should be allowed to vote. Pray for it at home, at your church, or maybe in the high-school shower with the girls. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2015, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabees-2016-bid/719318/96 "2015-07-27T11:54:18Z")

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Looks like Trumpism has spread to [Mike Huckabee.](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mike-huckabee-iran-oven_55b4f0a2e4b0224d88328498?)

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> “This president’s foreign policy is the most feckless in American history. It is so naive that he would trust the Iranians. By doing so, he will take the Israelis and march them to the door of the oven"

Way to take the high road, Mike. One of the tenets of right wing Republican orthodoxy is that Israel can do no wrong. A corollary is that no Muslim nation can ever be trusted and that war is the only option available in dealing with them. A man who professes to follow the Prince of Peace rejects dialogue and negotiations with some nations based on their religion. Is he trying to fight Trump for the angry white vote? Is he merely concerned about the Jews because he thinks they have to be in Israel for The Rapture to occur, at which point they’ll be sent to hell for being unbelievers? Who knows? He just knows that Obama is feckless, and so it follows that Huckabee claims to have a lot of feck.

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2015, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabees-2016-bid/719318/97 "2015-07-27T12:08:24Z")

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On his twitter account, Huckabee is defending his remarks, in part, by posting quotes by the Ayatollah Khamenei. Didn’t that guy die awhile back? Why is anything Khamenei once said relevant today?

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2015, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabees-2016-bid/719318/98 "2015-07-27T12:20:35Z")

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The destruction of Israel is still Iranian policy. Huck’s statement is hyperbolic because of the balance of power in the region, not because Iran doesn’t want to kill all the Jews.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2015, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabees-2016-bid/719318/99 "2015-07-27T12:26:43Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> The destruction of Israel is still Iranian policy. Huck’s statement is hyperbolic because of the balance of power in the region, not because Iran doesn’t want to kill all the Jews.

The leaders know better. They know they couldn’t eliminate Israel even if they wanted to, but they also know that the masses in the street want to hear that kind of talk. So the leaders talk tough to placate the angry masses and externalize their anger. Sort of like what Trump and Huckabee are doing.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2015, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huckabees-2016-bid/719318/100 "2015-07-27T12:30:09Z")

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THeir leaders are religious fundies. They believe what they are saying.

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