# Huddled Masses and Wretched Refuse

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huddled-masses-and-wretched-refuse/12368>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [December 29, 1999, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huddled-masses-and-wretched-refuse/12368 "1999-12-29T15:58:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![The\_Punkyova](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@The\_Punkyova](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Punkyova)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 1999, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huddled-masses-and-wretched-refuse/12368/41 "1999-12-29T23:50:00Z")

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Father’s side: Irish (the only way you can legitimately get a name like Emmett) and Czech (Moravian, not Bohemian).

Mother’s side: Scots Irish and Norwegian

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 1999, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huddled-masses-and-wretched-refuse/12368/42 "1999-12-30T01:23:00Z")

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Daddy’s side: 250% martian.  
Mummy’s side: -3/4 apple.

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**-PIGEONMAN-**  
Hero For A New Millennium!

[The Legend Of PigeonMan](http://www.hotkey.net.au/~guanolad/pigeonman/) - **Back in the new year!** Honest. I promise. No, really.

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 1999, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huddled-masses-and-wretched-refuse/12368/43 "1999-12-30T02:19:00Z")

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Father’s side-German & \<font size=5\>Irish\</font\>  
Mother’s side-Polish ,Swedish,& Translyvanian

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“Show me a sane man, and I will cure him for you.”----Jung

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**Author:** ![psycat90](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ea924/32.png) [@psycat90](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psycat90)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 1999, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huddled-masses-and-wretched-refuse/12368/44 "1999-12-30T02:50:00Z")

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My mother came to New york with her parents when she was just about 12 months old from Puerto Rico. I believe my grandparents were descendants of slaves brought to Puerto Rico from Spain to work in the sugar cane fields.

My dad’s parents are from Louisiana, descendants of French Canadians who migrated to the south.

so to sum things up:

mom-Spanish  
dad-French

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so you found a girl who thinks really deep thoughts. what’s so amazing about really deep thoughts? Tori Amos

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**Author:** ![Kvallulf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@Kvallulf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kvallulf)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 1999, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huddled-masses-and-wretched-refuse/12368/45 "1999-12-30T03:05:00Z")

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Mothers side: Swedish  
Fathers side: Swedish

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 1999, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huddled-masses-and-wretched-refuse/12368/46 "1999-12-30T05:43:00Z")

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Father: Hungarian  
Mother: the classic English-Scot-Welsh

Mrs. Kunilou is Japanese on both sides, meaning our children’s heritage is half-Japanese and quarter-Hungarian. We are having them constantly monitored for depression.

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**Author:** ![dlv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5f9b8f/32.png) [@dlv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dlv)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 1999, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huddled-masses-and-wretched-refuse/12368/47 "1999-12-30T05:49:00Z")

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> [@](#):
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> “Do you have any Mexican in you?”

He’s supposed to ask, Do you have a little Mexican (or whatever) in you?

(I’m a mutt and proud - mostly Eastern European Jewish, a little German, a little Mongol…)

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**Author:** ![Ayesha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c0e974/32.png) [@Ayesha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ayesha)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 1999, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huddled-masses-and-wretched-refuse/12368/48 "1999-12-30T05:50:00Z")

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## French, Irish, Dutch, Scotts and Cherokee

Ayesha - Lioness

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There are two solutions to every problem : the wrong one, and mine  
(Thomas A. Edison)

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**Author:** ![meek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ce73a5/32.png) [@meek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/meek)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 1999, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huddled-masses-and-wretched-refuse/12368/49 "1999-12-30T15:54:00Z")

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I’m half French and half Irish…

Which means -  
I’d be a great lover if I wasn’t _shitfaced_ all the time.  
**I’m just kidding! I’m just kidding!**  
::dodges thrown wine bottles and potatoes::

## Sorry - I’ll go now.

Happy New Year Everyone.

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**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 1999, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huddled-masses-and-wretched-refuse/12368/50 "1999-12-30T16:03:00Z")

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Didja hear about the guy who was half black and half Japanese?

Every December 7, he attacked Pearl Bailey!

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 1999, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huddled-masses-and-wretched-refuse/12368/51 "1999-12-30T16:23:00Z")

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**dlv** : There’s a subtle difference in the intended joke.

1. **a** little Mexican in you = you’re pregnant by Mexican father  
2. **some** Mexican in you = a part of a Mexican’s anatomy in a body cavity of yours

If he says “1” and means “2”…he’s saying he is not well-endowed, which could add to the joke, but _machismo_ may not allow that. He is already married, so I doubt he wants to impregnate someone, thus he would not say “1” and mean it. Also, remember he says this to males as well as females.

Sorry for the temporary hijack. Craft is back on course.

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**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 1999, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huddled-masses-and-wretched-refuse/12368/52 "1999-12-30T21:24:00Z")

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About 33% each French, English and Dutch. (Don’t ask!) Obligatory Celtic (Welsh, Scottish, and Irish back) in the English line. Misc. Spanish and such back in the French line.

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 1999, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huddled-masses-and-wretched-refuse/12368/53 "1999-12-30T21:57:00Z")

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Polish. My great-grand folks on both sides came on by right about WWI.

From what I understand, my great grandfather on my mother’s side didn’t know my great grandmother at the time and married her on the boat because she had some open sores and the US wasn’t going to let her off the boat. As the spouse of someone they were already letting into the country, they had to take her as well. Sweet story (well, as romantic as you can get using the phrase “open sores”) but as it turns out, they spent the next however many years hating each other. Oh well.

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“I guess one person can make a difference, although most of the time they probably shouldn’t.”

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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 1999, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huddled-masses-and-wretched-refuse/12368/54 "1999-12-30T23:14:00Z")

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Touche. Manhattan! Actually that would be a site to see. (If you contact me by e-mail I’ll give you my postal address and you can send me a photograph of you or Alphagene doing this. 😃😉  
I’m not doing anything New Year’s Eve but staying home. I’ve always done it that way, since I don’t drink or dance.

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**Author:** ![Demo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demo/32/8472_2.png) [@Demo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Demo)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 1999, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huddled-masses-and-wretched-refuse/12368/55 "1999-12-30T23:26:00Z")

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/–mother–Mexican/Indian(Yaqui)  
Dad{  
–father–Irish(We think)

```
/--mother--English/German

```

Mom{  
–father–Italian  
Me: **MUTT**

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“Teaching without words and work without doing are understood by very few.”  
-Tao Te Ching

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**Author:** ![Demo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demo/32/8472_2.png) [@Demo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Demo)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 1999, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huddled-masses-and-wretched-refuse/12368/56 "1999-12-30T23:27:00Z")

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[sarcastic]Gee, that worked REALLY well![/sarcastic]

Sheesh! 😉

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**Author:** ![TVeblen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@TVeblen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVeblen)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 1999, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huddled-masses-and-wretched-refuse/12368/57 "1999-12-30T23:56:00Z")

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Generic human mongrel:

Paternal: pure German (3rd generation)  
Maternal: mostly Scots, in 2 distinct waves that the family geneaology buffs have pinned down. Though there is probably some English in there somewhere (I assume) because my great-aunt got into the DAR based on descent from one of the Declaration signers. I forget his name, but he was one of the signers from New York and mostly notable for going spectacularly bankrupt after the Revolution. Morris, or something; is that English?

(BTW, my family is mostly notable for going bust: make a bundle, lose it. Sigh.)

Veb

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**Author:** ![John\_Corrado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a88e4f/32.png) [@John\_Corrado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Corrado)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 1999, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huddled-masses-and-wretched-refuse/12368/58 "1999-12-31T00:11:00Z")

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TVeblen- do you mean Gouverneur Morris? The Minister of War for the Continental Congress during the American Revolution? Who ended up funding the Revolution’s early days mostly out of pocket, and went broke because he was never repayed?

## If so, cool.

JMCJ

“John C., it looks like you have blended in very nicely.”  
-UncleBeer

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**Author:** ![Ursa\_Major](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/a88e57/32.png) [@Ursa\_Major](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ursa_Major)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 1999, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huddled-masses-and-wretched-refuse/12368/59 "1999-12-31T00:17:00Z")

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Father’s side: Irish

Mother’s side: Scottish and English (and a dark skinned great-great-grandmother from Florida who we suspect was probably Mulatto or Seminole.)

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**Author:** ![capybara](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/capybara/32/202_2.png) [@capybara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/capybara)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 1999, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huddled-masses-and-wretched-refuse/12368/60 "1999-12-31T01:45:00Z")

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Mothers: Irish/Scot/ English mutt type  
Father: Milkman, apparently blonde/blue-- beyond that, accounts vary widely 🙂

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