# Huey Freeman is banned **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [January 29, 2019, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huey-freeman-is-banned/828587 "2019-01-29T02:18:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huey-freeman-is-banned/828587/41 "2019-01-29T04:53:48Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > How exactly was, I’ll put it succinctly, ‘Hey Whitey, FUCK YOU’ fighting ignorance exactly? > > ‘Cause I really didn’t see Huey being that interested in "fighting ignorance’ . . . just plain fighting on the other hand… > > CMC fnord! > > CMC fnord! Yep. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huey-freeman-is-banned/828587/42 "2019-01-29T04:55:34Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Dude, not cool. Not cool at all. +1 ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huey-freeman-is-banned/828587/43 "2019-01-29T04:59:37Z")
**asahi,** I don’t like you. However, I strongly urge you to step away and cool down. Not to keep your posting status - that’s pretty well done, I’d guess. And your banning wouldn’t affect me one way or the other. I urge you to because I’m getting concerned that you’re working yourself into a state where you might harm yourself or others. Wait a minute! It’s not because you’re black - to be honest, I didn’t know that until you started blowing up. And I don’t care. Overall, online, I don’t care about you at all. But I do care about fellow human beings, and I think it’s possible you might cause harm. Dismiss me if you like, insult me - fine. But you should step away. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huey-freeman-is-banned/828587/44 "2019-01-29T05:05:41Z")
Pretty sure this thread is about to be closed. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huey-freeman-is-banned/828587/45 "2019-01-29T05:06:35Z")
> [@galen\_ubal](#): > > **asahi,** I don’t like you. > > However, > > I strongly urge you to step away and cool down. Not to keep your posting status - that’s pretty well done, I’d guess. And your banning wouldn’t affect me one way or the other. > I urge you to because I’m getting concerned that you’re working yourself into a state where you might harm yourself or others. > > Wait a minute! > > It’s not because you’re black - to be honest, I didn’t know that until you started blowing up. And I don’t care. Overall, online, I don’t care about you at all. > But I do care about fellow human beings, and I think it’s possible you might cause harm. > > Dismiss me if you like, insult me - fine. But you should step away. Oh seriously, fuck off! You think you can read me to conclude that I might harm myself or others, for the simple reason that I’m arguing against another poster’s banning. And I’m the one who needs help? And I’m the one who’s not an arrogant cunt? You people here at SDMB really are in need of some education. I think most of you all masturbate to yourselves in the mirror. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huey-freeman-is-banned/828587/46 "2019-01-29T05:06:45Z")
I think we’re looking at a suicide by mod in progress here. > [@asahi](#): > > Report me to the Mods! > > Have me banned! > > Ban anyone who offends you! I even said for the record I wasn’t cool with Huey’s comments, but that’s not enough, is it? > > Now I know why Huey hated your ass I did report it. And while you may have said you weren’t cool with his comments, you certainly didn’t have a problem defending it. > [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > Because thats the world we actually live in. This is what they are fighting against. Its an uphill battle and they are loosing. The anger that Huey expressed here: that isn’t unique to Huey. There is real fear and anger out there. You aren’t hearing it because as I’ve argued over and over again on these boards we’ve locked ourselves into our own personally curated feedback loops: we choose to only hear from the people that we want to hear. You aren’t hearing black voices. Because (apart from the obvious insults and the autism conspiracy theories) what Huey had to say really isn’t all that different from what black people are saying. Well excuse me for being skeptical on the INTERNET. THAT was my point. It has NOTHING TO DO WITH HUEY BEING BLACK. People on the INTERNET like. It happens all the god-damned time. Blame the trolls. And Huey wasn’t simply a “black voice”, he was just some stranger who happened to come on, and acted like every other single troll that has come before. It may be unfortunate, but that’s just how things have happened around here. You’ve seen it. > [@](#): > > Huey took personal information \*\*twice \*\*and used that to attack people. And in one of those cases Huey realized that he had made a mistake and that he apologized for it. I think you are vastly mis-characterizing the nature of Huey’s “crimes.” Its the fucking pit for fucks sakes. If you want to have limits on what people say then make those limits crystal fucking clear. Oh, he took it more than twice. Besides, does the Pit makes it okay to mock the disabled? Do you have any idea what the disabled go through? What it’s like to be depressed? Or have anxiety? Do you? Like I said, I didn’t give a rat’s ass that **Huey** made it about ME. But it was a hateful, shitty thing to say, and for that, he showed himself to be a shitty person who doesn’t deserve anyone’s defense. In fact, by that logic, the fact that I’ve suffered from illnesses means that I can be just as hateful, doesn’t it? > [@](#): > > Miller makes it crystal clear in the OP that this isn’t the reason for Huey’s banning. So are you arguing for a change in the rules? Do you want to codify “not being able to use a kids cancer to attack another poster” into the rules? Well if you do that can we codify not being allowed to say crap like > > as well? And in that case, the mods were wrong. THAT is why he should’ve been banned. But don’t kid yourself that Huey was simply an angry black man. He’s also a MAN who, by the way, had some pretty nasty things to say about WOMEN as well. WOMEN go through some pretty shitty things. (Oh, but we’re white, so it doesn’t count) > [@](#): > > Then deal with it when it happens. Make a rule against it. Moderate it. But stop pretending that this is why he was banned. “That type of destructive attack” is not trolling. Its something else completely. I didn’t pretend it was why he was banned. I am, however, saying that’s why he shouldn’t be _defended_. There should be a rule against attacking peoples’ families, and I think the mods seriously need to look into that. They dropped the ball there. But whether **Huey** was rightfully banned or not, he was not just some poor, innocent victim. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huey-freeman-is-banned/828587/47 "2019-01-29T05:08:06Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > How exactly was, I’ll put it succinctly, ‘Hey Whitey, FUCK YOU’ fighting ignorance exactly? > > ‘Cause I really didn’t see Huey being that interested in "fighting ignorance’ . . . just plain fighting on the other hand… > > CMC fnord! I wouldn’t expect you to understand. You’re white - correct me if I’m wrong (I’m not wrong). ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huey-freeman-is-banned/828587/48 "2019-01-29T05:08:36Z")
**Miller** , Thank you for taking the time to lay out your thinking rather expansively. I very much appreciate it. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huey-freeman-is-banned/828587/49 "2019-01-29T05:12:17Z")
And of course I got a warning. I’ll probably soon get banned. I’ll probably get suspended for mentioning that I got a warning – from who else, Colibri, who has wanted me banned since we tangled on this forum months ago. I want other posters to see that this is not a place for fighting ignorance, but a message board, pretty much like any others, where bias rules, where favoritism rules, and where the Mods will end up selectively choosing who “violates’” the rules and who gets “banned” and who doesn’t. Sham fucking website. You could shut down this thread of course, but you don’t want to. You want me to be banned!!! Right?! ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huey-freeman-is-banned/828587/50 "2019-01-29T05:15:08Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > I wouldn’t expect you to understand. You’re white - correct me if I’m wrong (I’m not wrong). Aren’t you also white? So how would you know either? ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huey-freeman-is-banned/828587/51 "2019-01-29T05:16:43Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Dude, not cool. Not cool at all. it could be plenty cool if he has supporting evidence, which I expect him to present tomorrow. I know I’m not perfect (just better than **Asahi** ;)) and I appreciate guidance to better myself. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huey-freeman-is-banned/828587/52 "2019-01-29T05:16:44Z")
Screw you all! You want me gone! This thread could be shut down but it’s proof that the mods want me to commit an infraction so that I’ll get banned. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huey-freeman-is-banned/828587/53 "2019-01-29T05:18:28Z")
Close the goddamn thread! You all accomplished your mission by getting rid of Huey, or did you?! You all want to silence everyone! ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huey-freeman-is-banned/828587/54 "2019-01-29T05:20:05Z")
So, going off on Republicans wasn’t good enough and now you’re attacking the entire board? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huey-freeman-is-banned/828587/55 "2019-01-29T05:20:34Z")
If only there was a way to not post things that threatened one’s posting privileges . . . if only there was a way. CMC fnord! ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huey-freeman-is-banned/828587/56 "2019-01-29T05:20:40Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Listen, shit ass, I am better than you because I know so much more about life and the world than you. You are a fucking slave. > [@asahi](#): > > Oh seriously, fuck off! > > You think you can read me to conclude that I might harm myself or others, for the simple reason that I’m arguing against another poster’s banning. And I’m the one who needs help? And I’m the one who’s not an arrogant cunt? > > You people here at SDMB really are in need of some education. I think most of you all masturbate to yourselves in the mirror. > [@](#): > > And of course I got a warning. I’ll probably soon get banned. > > I’ll probably get suspended for mentioning that I got a warning – from who else, Colibri, who has wanted me banned since we tangled on this forum months ago. > > I want other posters to see that this is not a place for fighting ignorance, but a message board, pretty much like any others, where bias rules, where favoritism rules, and where the Mods will end up selectively choosing who “violates’” the rules and who gets “banned” and who doesn’t. > > Sham fucking website. > > You could shut down this thread of course, but you don’t want to. You want me to be banned!!! Right?! > [@asahi](#): > > Screw you all! You want me gone! > > This thread could be shut down but it’s proof that the mods want me to commit an infraction so that I’ll get banned. > [@asahi](#): > > Close the goddamn thread! You all accomplished your mission by getting rid of Huey, or did you?! You all want to silence everyone! **asahi** , you are well aware that insults and comments of this kind are not permitted in ATMB. This is an official warning.\* You’ve gone well beyond arguing against a banning to getting worked up to an extent that you yourself recognize that it could end up with you getting banned. Actually, neither I nor the other mods want to ban you, as long as you stick within the rules. Given this, I think it’s best to give you a time out for a couple of days to cool down. Others who wish to express disagreement with the banning are free to do so, as long as you stick within ATMB rules. Colibri \*Note: In case the sequence of events here is confusing, **asahi’s** last three posts were made between the time I gave him a warning and finished editing this post. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huey-freeman-is-banned/828587/57 "2019-01-29T05:21:50Z")
It isn’t martyrdom when you want and demand to be punished-it is masochism. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huey-freeman-is-banned/828587/58 "2019-01-29T05:22:48Z")
I’ve heard of suicide by mod, but I’ve never heard of seppuku by mod. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huey-freeman-is-banned/828587/59 "2019-01-29T05:24:54Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > it could be plenty cool if he has supporting evidence, which I expect him to present tomorrow. I know I’m not perfect (just better than **Asahi** ;)) and I appreciate guidance to better myself. I’m never getting it, am I? ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huey-freeman-is-banned/828587/60 "2019-01-29T05:31:59Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > So that makes it okay to be hateful, and use slurs against women and the disabled? …nope. You moderate that. And if that behavior continues then you warn them, then you ban. If that had been how this all happened then I wouldn’t have a problem with that. But it wasn’t. > [@](#): > > I certainly think that our society is royally fucked up when it comes to race. But I also find the idea that if you’re a member of a marginalized group, that gives you a free pass to be hateful to people who are also marginalized. Marginalized people don’t get a free pass. They never get a free pass. I’m not talking about getting a free pass nor asking for a free pass. I’m suggesting that if we have standards and rules that they need to be moderated consistently. (Ironic, as I praised Miller’s consistency in the other thread.) There is plenty of hate in the pit. People get a free pass for being hateful all the time. Why do they get the free pass: but Huey doesn’t? > [@](#): > > It doesn’t excuse a black man from being a homophobe, for example, or an Asian man from hating Jews, or Muslims from mistreating women, etc. It doesn’t excuse a gay man from using racial slurs. And that’s what pissed people off. I’m not asking you to excuse anything. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huey-freeman-is-banned/828587.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huey-freeman-is-banned/828587.md?page=4)