# Huey Freeman is banned

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huey-freeman-is-banned/828587>\
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**Created:** [January 29, 2019, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huey-freeman-is-banned/828587 "2019-01-29T02:18:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huey-freeman-is-banned/828587/141 "2019-01-29T16:24:51Z")

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> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> **Miller** , thanks for taking the time to explain things in such detail, and thanks to you and the other mods for the time and thought you put in.
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> As for the specific arguments, well, I’m glad it’s not my job to decide.

I’ll second both sentiments.

> [@Miller](#):
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> So, why is he banned now? When we started discussing him in the mod loop in response to the ATMB thread, I took a look at his posting history, and it turns out he hasn’t posted anywhere on the board except for the Pit since October, excepting a couple posts he made to the ATMB thread about him today. And, near as I could tell, 100% of those Pit posts were attacking other posters. As it turns out, we [have a Pit rule that explicitly covers that behavior](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=507985):

This is part of the reason I have doubts about using the ban-hammer on him; maybe more of a suspend. Almost all of my posts at some given moment in time will be from IMHO with the odd ATMB and of course the MMP. Often, depending on the threads others begin, they could be said to follow a theme. Could that be evidence of a future claim that I am trolling; especially if it starts to honk off some of the usual gang of suspects? Was this a case of the old Texas adage “he just needed killing - we’ll figure out why later”?

I doubt a suspension would have done a lot of good; the track record on those is kinda mixed over the years. But to ban, and ban for trolling? Even though I basically agree something just doesn’t feel quite right.

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**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huey-freeman-is-banned/828587/142 "2019-01-29T16:39:25Z")

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My sentiment back in July:

> [@Omnibus Trolls R Us Thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/8487):
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> I am beginning to think **Huey Freeman** is an example some sort of Poe’s Law performance art…

Now, I am definitely not the arbiter of sincerity, but **Huey Freeman** was just so over-the-top to me that I don’t really know what he added to the board. The casual misogyny was also extremely off-putting.

There are plenty of alternative viewpoints on the SDMB, though we could stand to have more POC around… but as has been hashed to death in this thread, just being a POC doesn’t really mean you get a free pass to be an asshole.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huey-freeman-is-banned/828587/143 "2019-01-29T16:56:03Z")

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I can’t say I’ve ever seen suggestions from Huey on how whites should treat blacks better, probably because we’re all racist scum who deserve only scorn and derision.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huey-freeman-is-banned/828587/144 "2019-01-29T17:31:49Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> If that were a banning offense, how is it you’re still around?

You saying I don’t play nice, sah?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huey-freeman-is-banned/828587/145 "2019-01-29T17:43:05Z")

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**Huey Freeman** was an actual poster? Never heard of him. I thought the Pit thread was about the cartoon character.

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**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huey-freeman-is-banned/828587/146 "2019-01-29T17:51:10Z")

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> [@Banquet\_Bear](#):
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> …thank you 🙂
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> And thank you.
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> I’m bowing out now, not just from this thread but from the dope for a bit, just need to clear my head. Haere ra, ka kite ano.

Kia kaha.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huey-freeman-is-banned/828587/147 "2019-01-29T18:05:33Z")

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When white people ban a white person, they immediately close the thread as _it would be unfair to the white banned person because they can’t defend themselves._ But when when white people ban a black person, they have a posting party. And probably a parade too.

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huey-freeman-is-banned/828587/148 "2019-01-29T18:20:15Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> When white people ban a white person, they immediately close the thread as _it would be unfair to the white banned person because they can’t defend themselves._ But when when white people ban a black person, they have a posting party. And probably a parade too.

Right, like when Clothahump was banned!

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huey-freeman-is-banned/828587/149 "2019-01-29T18:25:08Z")

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> [@Scumpup](#):
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> Right, like when Clothahump was banned!

[Yes?](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=854907)

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**Author:** ![Borborygmi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/borborygmi/32/217_2.png) [@Borborygmi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Borborygmi)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huey-freeman-is-banned/828587/150 "2019-01-29T18:27:42Z")

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You ever notice that when white people are banned they’re like:

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But when _black_ people get banned they’re all like:

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huey-freeman-is-banned/828587/151 "2019-01-29T18:29:16Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> When white people ban a white person, they immediately close the thread as _it would be unfair to the white banned person because they can’t defend themselves._ But when when white people ban a black person, they have a posting party. And probably a parade too.

Right, like when [handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=791464) was banned!

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huey-freeman-is-banned/828587/152 "2019-01-29T18:31:20Z")

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nvm

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**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huey-freeman-is-banned/828587/153 "2019-01-29T18:45:05Z")

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Thanks to the Mods for looking into the issue, and thanks to **Miller** for the explanation and clarifications.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huey-freeman-is-banned/828587/154 "2019-01-29T18:57:43Z")

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You know, enough. I don’t think this is getting us anyplace.

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**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huey-freeman-is-banned/828587/155 "2019-01-31T17:08:07Z")

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**Moderator Action**

Re-opened per request.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huey-freeman-is-banned/828587/156 "2019-01-31T17:22:13Z")

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Given that this thread is all over the place, what’s the ATMB-specific topic still to be discussed?

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huey-freeman-is-banned/828587/157 "2019-01-31T20:09:43Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Given that this thread is all over the place, what’s the ATMB-specific topic still to be discussed?

We need to schedule this parade I’m hearing about.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huey-freeman-is-banned/828587/158 "2019-01-31T22:50:07Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Given that this thread is all over the place, what’s the ATMB-specific topic still to be discussed?

“Fairness in moderation” is a concept that’s crucially important to the health and viability of any message board, and the Huey situation has generated a lot of opinions on the topic.

That’s my guess, anyway.

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