# Huh. \[RNC spent $2,000 in Hollywood S&M Strip Club\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [March 29, 2010, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huh-rnc-spent-2-000-in-hollywood-s-m-strip-club/534219 "2010-03-29T15:23:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huh-rnc-spent-2-000-in-hollywood-s-m-strip-club/534219/61 "2010-03-30T17:32:47Z")
> **[Republican Party News and Articles | Salon.com](https://www.salon.com/topic/republican_party)** > > The latest and best Republican Party news and articles from the award-winning team at Salon.com. Read more Republican Party breaking news, in-depth reporting and criticism. Above link has the latest updates. Young Eagles indeed! Pubby perversion in expense reporting. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huh-rnc-spent-2-000-in-hollywood-s-m-strip-club/534219/62 "2010-03-30T17:39:40Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > [http://www.salon.com/news/politics/republican\_party/index.html?story=/politics/war\_room/2010/03/30/rnc](http://www.salon.com/news/politics/republican_party/index.html?story=/politics/war_room/2010/03/30/rnc) > > Above link has the latest updates. Young Eagles indeed! Pubby perversion in expense reporting. And still, the thread title remains the same. ---
**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huh-rnc-spent-2-000-in-hollywood-s-m-strip-club/534219/63 "2010-03-30T17:48:22Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > And still, the thread title remains the same. You’re an SDSAB, why don’t you hit a mod up? ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huh-rnc-spent-2-000-in-hollywood-s-m-strip-club/534219/64 "2010-03-30T17:49:41Z")
> [@Mr.Moto](#): > > By my post above, I’m not excusing anything - just noting that even in a relatively well run system something could get approved that shouldn’t be. > > If I see an establishment named Voyeur in LA, I might not automatically think it is a strip club. I might think it is a nightclub. A restaurant might not be out of the imagination either. And not looking the place up isn’t a capital crime - it is just a mistake. I pretty much agree with you. I mean, I still think the name “Voyeur” is sufficiently suggestive to raise red flag. But this doesn’t reveal some deep-seated corruption or ineptitude in the GOP. There are plenty of other things that do that. 😃 /d & r ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huh-rnc-spent-2-000-in-hollywood-s-m-strip-club/534219/65 "2010-03-30T17:52:13Z")
> [@Mr.Moto](#): > > CUT > Blue Velvet > Geisha House > Star Garden > > Now, without being a native or otherwise familiar with the area, and without hitting Google, tell me which one is the strip club, and which are trendy restaurants. All of these are establishments in the general Hollywood area. Ooh, ooh! Can I play? I’m going to guess “CUT” is the strip club. You can hide all sorts of stuff in acronyms. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huh-rnc-spent-2-000-in-hollywood-s-m-strip-club/534219/66 "2010-03-30T17:53:45Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > And still, the thread title remains the same. We call that the “Wen Ho Lee” feature of thread titles. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huh-rnc-spent-2-000-in-hollywood-s-m-strip-club/534219/67 "2010-03-30T18:14:52Z")
> [@Mr.Excellent](#): > > Ooh, ooh! Can I play? > > I’m going to guess “CUT” is the strip club. You can hide all sorts of stuff in acronyms. CUT is a steakhouse. Try again. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huh-rnc-spent-2-000-in-hollywood-s-m-strip-club/534219/68 "2010-03-30T18:20:12Z")
It’s Star Garden, obviously. Geisha House is too on the nose, and Blue Velvet sounds like a lounge. None of those names are as suggestive or prima facie eyebrow raising as Voyeur, though, and anything for that amount of money should be checked out regardless. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huh-rnc-spent-2-000-in-hollywood-s-m-strip-club/534219/69 "2010-03-30T18:45:56Z")
What can I say - the man knows his strip clubs. Although I will point out that I have eaten in a couple of restaurants named Star Garden - with no stripping to be found anywhere. ---
**Author:** ![california\_jobcase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9d8465/32.png) [@california\_jobcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/california_jobcase)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huh-rnc-spent-2-000-in-hollywood-s-m-strip-club/534219/70 "2010-03-30T20:23:12Z")
And I thought this thread was about a Bangle- ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huh-rnc-spent-2-000-in-hollywood-s-m-strip-club/534219/71 "2010-03-31T02:06:20Z")
> [@redtail23](#): > > 'Scuse??? What company does that? Every company I’ve worked for or heard of (from friends/relatives/etc.) vetted the expenses BEFORE reimbursement. Exactly, and the Feds require this for their travel expenses. Now, sure if the expense had been under $25, then I’d buy a “didn’t check” expense, as that’s even allowed under the tax codes. It was an entertainment expense for $2000, it should have been carefully checked before re-imbusement. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huh-rnc-spent-2-000-in-hollywood-s-m-strip-club/534219/72 "2010-03-31T02:07:38Z")
Bricker, your argument is obtuse. Recall that this came up as part of a Federal Election Commission report. > [@Bricker](#): > > OK, I see Mr Moto has already provided the sort of pop quiz I was going to do. So answer his question: which of those is the questionable expense? Well, if you are a reporter, which ones would you check up on? This is from a public database after all. A: You check all of them. So the auditors and PR department need to do that before filing the quarterly report with the FEC. Otherwise, the RNC is likely to stumble from one scandal to another. Furthermore, Moto’s list is bogus. Missing “Star Garden” might be an oversight. But any establishment with the name “Voyeur” in it justifies a search in google and yelp. Unless of course you want you want management to look foolish. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huh-rnc-spent-2-000-in-hollywood-s-m-strip-club/534219/73 "2010-03-31T03:05:25Z")
The whole point of all the defenses in this thread are to be obtuse and distract from criticizing the RNC for spending $2,000 at a strip club. The party of family values my pastey white ass. Now, can we get on to guessing which names of which restaurants are strip clubs, because you won’t find Republicans, the RNC and The Young Eagles in just any old LA restaurant. They can tell you the difference between names of the restaurants and strip clubs in every US city. I’d ask where the outrage is, but then somebody would point out that outrage is no different than enrage and try to distract us with that. Can we now get a list of the names of The Young Eagles that attended and ran up the $2,000 tab? ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huh-rnc-spent-2-000-in-hollywood-s-m-strip-club/534219/74 "2010-03-31T04:13:23Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > Can we now get a list of the names of The Young Eagles that attended and ran up the $2,000 tab? Not yet, but we’re still digging. From the web: Although the Young Eagles [accumulated only 120 fans on Facebook](http://www.examiner.com/x-22153-Cleveland-Pop-Culture-Examiner~y2010m3d30-Allison-Meyers-Facebookcom-photos-LinkedIncom-profile-and-Young-Eagle-pictures-deleted), they were nonetheless the only donor group in the Republican Party [that pulled its own weight](http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0310/33866_Page2.html). Comprised of young donors, membership cost [$7500 per year](http://www.examiner.com/x-35532-Dallas-Political-Buzz-Examiner~y2010m3d30-Voyeur-Scandal-Questions-about-GOP--topless-SM-lesbian-club) and had a number of exciting benefits. [: “The Young Eagles]([washington independent game - build up the town again](http://washingtonindependent.com/80905/young-eagles-plans-for-2010-ufc-match-bull-riding-texas-bird-hunt)) will be at the Phillies opening day baseball game (where President Obama will throw out the first pitch), a September “Texas bird hunt” and an October Ultimate Fighting Championship event in Las Vegas.” And in July, there is an event in Boise with Gov. Butch Otter (R-Idaho). The next fundraising meeting is at [Xe, the symbol of the company formerly known as Blackwater](http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0310/RNC_Blackwater_event_is_on.html). When the RNC referred to the [“Ego-Driven” big donors](http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0310/33866_Page2.html), these are the boys they presumably had in mind. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huh-rnc-spent-2-000-in-hollywood-s-m-strip-club/534219/75 "2010-03-31T06:28:44Z")
Bush’s Brain bashes Bondage. [Karl Rove says GOP must deal with scandal](http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/03/30/MNQS1CNJ2V.DTL&type=politics&tsp=1) Even a stopped watch is correct twice a day. Yet none of our tighty righty Dopers seem to have picked this one. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 10:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huh-rnc-spent-2-000-in-hollywood-s-m-strip-club/534219/76 "2010-03-31T10:23:29Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > a September “Texas bird hunt” Better check if Dick Cheney will be attending before saying yes to that one. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huh-rnc-spent-2-000-in-hollywood-s-m-strip-club/534219/77 "2010-03-31T12:35:37Z")
I’ve changed the thread title, which was originally “Huh. Michael Steele hangs out in S&M Strip Clubs.” ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huh-rnc-spent-2-000-in-hollywood-s-m-strip-club/534219/78 "2010-03-31T12:46:52Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > I’ve changed the thread title, which was originally “Huh. Michael Steele hangs out in S&M Strip Clubs.” Thank you very much. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huh-rnc-spent-2-000-in-hollywood-s-m-strip-club/534219/79 "2010-03-31T15:13:38Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > Furthermore, Moto’s list is bogus. Missing “Star Garden” might be an oversight. But any establishment with the name “Voyeur” in it justifies a search in google and yelp. Unless of course you want you want management to look foolish. Or, more likely, unless the RNC has developed an institutional culture of letting these things slide and (implicitly or otherwise) treating such uses of party funds as one of the privileges that come with rank and connections. Once a pattern of ignoring, or perhaps even punishing, staffers who try to blow the whistle becomes established, word gets around and turning a blind eye becomes SOP. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huh-rnc-spent-2-000-in-hollywood-s-m-strip-club/534219/80 "2010-03-31T15:16:34Z")
> [@Duke](#): > > Why can’t they use Google? Aren’t they allowed to in the RNC offices? Well, maybe Microsoft gave them a big donation – but using Bing ought to work just as well after the computer is done downloading whatever bloated graphic is stuck on their homepage at the moment. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huh-rnc-spent-2-000-in-hollywood-s-m-strip-club/534219.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huh-rnc-spent-2-000-in-hollywood-s-m-strip-club/534219.md?page=5)