# Human bag of pig suet and sexual harassment Roger Ailes dead at 77.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-bag-of-pig-suet-and-sexual-harassment-roger-ailes-dead-at-77/786942>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 18, 2017, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-bag-of-pig-suet-and-sexual-harassment-roger-ailes-dead-at-77/786942 "2017-05-18T17:25:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-bag-of-pig-suet-and-sexual-harassment-roger-ailes-dead-at-77/786942/41 "2017-05-19T02:06:19Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> You don’t understand. As a “leftie”, you are \*required \* to simply sit passively, while powerful media millionaires spit on you, and call you a disgusting human being. You may not, at any time, (even after their death), return these insults.

Damn straight. New rule is that hating on hate absolves the hater, and leaves YOU the only hater. You must offer the other cheek to the stamping boot.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-bag-of-pig-suet-and-sexual-harassment-roger-ailes-dead-at-77/786942/42 "2017-05-19T02:07:48Z")

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> [@HeweyLogan](#):
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> You’re speaking for the person I quoted?

They do not have to speak for the person you quoted to note you made an assumption.

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-bag-of-pig-suet-and-sexual-harassment-roger-ailes-dead-at-77/786942/43 "2017-05-19T02:08:29Z")

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> [@HeweyLogan](#):
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> I knew there would be a thread like this here.
> 
> The Straight Dope - Where the classiest of the left show their true colors.

Oh Look! The archers forgot to kill one of the Slaves at The Phat Pharaohs burial dig…

> [@Chimera](#):
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> That is a stupid assumption.

Hey can you call a poster like him Stupid in The Pit?  
(…not that anyone on earth would ever think you’d be wrong…)

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**Author:** ![HeweyLogan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heweylogan/32/547_2.png) [@HeweyLogan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeweyLogan)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-bag-of-pig-suet-and-sexual-harassment-roger-ailes-dead-at-77/786942/44 "2017-05-19T02:22:20Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> It’s nice that you admitted that Fox News is just opinion.

Did I say that?

No. I said it’s biased. But exaggerate and misrepresent away, you’re side is nothing without it.

> [@BigT](#):
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> It’s not as good as recognizing that it’s misleading bullshit designed to play into its audiences prejudices and not to inform them…

Ever watch MSNBC? Happen to catch Chris Mathews tonight?

> [@BigT](#):
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> And, no, the same cannot be said by any “liberal” news channel. There’s shit like that online, but not on TV.

You’re funny.

> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> They do not have to speak for the person you quoted to note you made an assumption.

I did. I know I did. What was wrong with the assumption though? Is the hate because he was a successful (wealthy) fat guy?

> [@Count\_Blucher](#):
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> Oh Look!

No, YOU look. The neighbors (the man) is watching you.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-bag-of-pig-suet-and-sexual-harassment-roger-ailes-dead-at-77/786942/45 "2017-05-19T02:41:50Z")

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> [@Beware\_of\_Doug](#):
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> Damn straight. New rule is that hating on hate absolves the hater, and leaves YOU the only hater. You must offer the other cheek to the stamping boot.

l’d suggest that you have been whooshed, but it’s obvious that I, were I to point that out, had been whooshed, inviting another whoosher. Don’t know if the GOP can deal with multiple levels of whooshery.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-bag-of-pig-suet-and-sexual-harassment-roger-ailes-dead-at-77/786942/46 "2017-05-19T02:44:16Z")

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> [@HeweyLogan](#):
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> Is the hate because he was a successful (wealthy) fat guy?

Not at all.

The problem is with what he did to obtain that wealth.

For example I like Bill Gates. He’s not fat but he is wealthy and I have no issue with him.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-bag-of-pig-suet-and-sexual-harassment-roger-ailes-dead-at-77/786942/47 "2017-05-19T02:45:19Z")

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> [@HeweyLogan](#):
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> …Ever watch MSNBC? Happen to catch Chris Mathews tonight?..

Well, yeah, I usually wait for my rendezvous with Rachel, but this was a busy news day. Unusual, really, because he annoys the shit out of me, seems to be allergic to listening to anyone else talk.

But yeah, saw it. Bunch of lies? Can you be more specific about the dreadful lies he told you on this show we both saw?

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-bag-of-pig-suet-and-sexual-harassment-roger-ailes-dead-at-77/786942/48 "2017-05-19T02:52:13Z")

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Wag the dog. Take the heat off Agent Orange. Probably the Russians did it for their pal. Sure, they’ll blame Hillary but it’s just a disinformation operation.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-bag-of-pig-suet-and-sexual-harassment-roger-ailes-dead-at-77/786942/49 "2017-05-19T03:04:41Z")

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> [@HeweyLogan](#):
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> Is the hate because he was a successful (wealthy) fat guy?

Well, he did a good job on misguiding people like you.

> **[Taibbi: Roger Ailes Was One of the Worst Americans Ever](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/roger-ailes-was-one-of-the-worst-americans-ever-111156/?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark)**
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> The Fox News founder made this the hate-filled, moronic country it is today.

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> \*\*Ailes was the Christopher Columbus of hate. \*\*When the former daytime TV executive and political strategist looked across the American continent, he saw money laying around in giant piles. He knew all that was needed to pick it up was a) the total abandonment of any sense of decency or civic duty in the news business, and b) the factory-like production of news stories that spoke to Americans’ worst fantasies about each other.
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> Like many con artists, he reflexively targeted the elderly – “I created a TV network for people from 55 to dead,” he told Joan Walsh – where he saw billions could be made mining terrifying storylines about the collapse of the simpler America such viewers remembered, correctly or (more often) incorrectly, from their childhoods.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-bag-of-pig-suet-and-sexual-harassment-roger-ailes-dead-at-77/786942/50 "2017-05-19T03:13:33Z")

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On the funny side, The Onion does it again:

[Hundreds Of Miniature Sean Hannitys Burst From Roger Ailes’ Corpse](http://www.theonion.com/article/hundreds-miniature-sean-hannitys-burst-roger-ailes-56052)

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**Author:** ![HeweyLogan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heweylogan/32/547_2.png) [@HeweyLogan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeweyLogan)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-bag-of-pig-suet-and-sexual-harassment-roger-ailes-dead-at-77/786942/51 "2017-05-19T03:21:05Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> The problem is with what he did to obtain that wealth.

Which is what?

If I got it wrong I don’t mind being corrected. Really. What’s the basis for…

“A man who literally made the world a worse place and by a large measure at that.”

> [@elucidator](#):
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> But yeah, saw it. Bunch of lies? Can you be more specific about the dreadful lies he told you on this show we both saw?

I didn’t say a bunch of lies (again, exaggerate, obfuscate, look at that over there! See my clever word play!?! Goddamn I’m good!)

I was responding to BigT and his comment “…it’s misleading bullshit designed to play into its audiences prejudices and not to inform them”

The transcript isn’t online yet. When it is I’ll quote it verbatim. It was pretty good. And typical of a channel that is “designed to play into its audiences prejudices and not inform”.

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**Author:** ![HeweyLogan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heweylogan/32/547_2.png) [@HeweyLogan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeweyLogan)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-bag-of-pig-suet-and-sexual-harassment-roger-ailes-dead-at-77/786942/52 "2017-05-19T03:33:05Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> On the funny side, The Onion does it again:
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> [Hundreds Of Miniature Sean Hannitys Burst From Roger Ailes’ Corpse](http://www.theonion.com/article/hundreds-miniature-sean-hannitys-burst-roger-ailes-56052)

Not the fastest slide on the range, are you.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-bag-of-pig-suet-and-sexual-harassment-roger-ailes-dead-at-77/786942/53 "2017-05-19T03:42:04Z")

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> [@HeweyLogan](#):
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> Which is what?
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> If I got it wrong I don’t mind being corrected. Really. What’s the basis for…
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> “A man who literally made the world a worse place and by a large measure at that.”

It would require a colossal disconnect from society or pig ignorance to not know that Fox does not have a reputation for honest reporting. Regular analysis has shown somewhere on the order of 60% of their news being anywhere from ‘misleading’ to ‘pants on fire’.

The sell fear, they sell lies. _Because it fucking sells!_ But profit and legality don’t change morality.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-bag-of-pig-suet-and-sexual-harassment-roger-ailes-dead-at-77/786942/54 "2017-05-19T03:42:27Z")

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Bill “Get down on Your Knees and Suck” O’Reilly says Roger Ailes died [with a broken heart](https://www.yahoo.com/movies/bill-oreilly-remembers-visionary-roger-ailes-saved-people-234106797.html).

I thought he died of a broken skull after falling down while trying to give himself a hummer.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-bag-of-pig-suet-and-sexual-harassment-roger-ailes-dead-at-77/786942/55 "2017-05-19T03:45:00Z")

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> [@HeweyLogan](#):
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> Not the fastest slide on the range, are you.

Missed that post from **Little\_Pig** , of course everyone can notice that you missed the previous post I made in reply to you. Everyone can see why.

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**Author:** ![HeweyLogan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heweylogan/32/547_2.png) [@HeweyLogan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeweyLogan)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-bag-of-pig-suet-and-sexual-harassment-roger-ailes-dead-at-77/786942/56 "2017-05-19T04:02:42Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> Missed that post from **Little\_Pig** , of course everyone can notice that you missed the previous post I made in reply to you. Everyone can see why.

Because it wasn’t worth replying to.

Yeah, everyone see’s it.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-bag-of-pig-suet-and-sexual-harassment-roger-ailes-dead-at-77/786942/57 "2017-05-19T04:14:50Z")

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> [@HeweyLogan](#):
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> Because it wasn’t worth replying to.
> 
> Yeah, everyone see’s it.

My point stands then, like the article said, Ailes was the Christopher Columbus of hate.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-bag-of-pig-suet-and-sexual-harassment-roger-ailes-dead-at-77/786942/58 "2017-05-19T04:22:49Z")

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Okay. I’ll post something nice.

[http://www.clickhole.com/article/nation-mourning-roger-ailes-americas-jolly-grandpa-6090](http://www.clickhole.com/article/nation-mourning-roger-ailes-americas-jolly-grandpa-6090)

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-bag-of-pig-suet-and-sexual-harassment-roger-ailes-dead-at-77/786942/59 "2017-05-19T04:43:41Z")

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They say the good die young, perhaps that offers us a clue to understand and accept his tragic longevity.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-bag-of-pig-suet-and-sexual-harassment-roger-ailes-dead-at-77/786942/60 "2017-05-19T05:10:18Z")

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He was always a good example of one of my own sayings:

“If you want to know what God thinks of Money, just look at who he gives it to.”

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