# Human bag of pig suet and sexual harassment Roger Ailes dead at 77. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 18, 2017, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-bag-of-pig-suet-and-sexual-harassment-roger-ailes-dead-at-77/786942 "2017-05-18T17:25:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-bag-of-pig-suet-and-sexual-harassment-roger-ailes-dead-at-77/786942/81 "2017-05-19T23:24:40Z")
I’m kind of hoping the conservatives who have been denouncing liberals for insulting Ailes–who appears to have been both an awful human being and a person who has done lasting damage to American political discourse–might show us the way by telling us all the great things Ailes did, privately and professionally. ---
**Author:** ![stillownedbysetters](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/41988e/32.png) [@stillownedbysetters](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stillownedbysetters)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-bag-of-pig-suet-and-sexual-harassment-roger-ailes-dead-at-77/786942/82 "2017-05-19T23:42:05Z")
\*\* > [@snoe](#): > > I’ll speak for myself: I hate the man for being a total fucking pig to women. Cf. [Kellie Boyle Claims Roger Ailes Sexually Harassed Her, And Retaliated | Fortune](http://fortune.com/2016/07/10/roger-ailes-sexual-harassment-boyle/) Make that two of us. Politics aside, the guy was an asshat to women. Good riddance. ---
**Author:** ![purplehearingaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7bcc69/32.png) [@purplehearingaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehearingaid)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2017, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-bag-of-pig-suet-and-sexual-harassment-roger-ailes-dead-at-77/786942/83 "2017-05-20T00:21:09Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > I haven’t been so pleased since the death of Tony Scalia…maybe even Lee Atwater. Ailes was a much larger lump of pus than either of them, enabling Nixon’s comeback, Reagan’s election, and Trump. > > Fry, you fat shit. Same here ! This was great news to me too ! I cheered when I heard it on the news and my dog was wondering what had happen ! LOL! ---
**Author:** ![The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a87d85/32.png) [@The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_King_of_Soup)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2017, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-bag-of-pig-suet-and-sexual-harassment-roger-ailes-dead-at-77/786942/84 "2017-05-20T02:25:17Z")
I will hope only that Mr. Ailes had a moment or two of clarity in which to contemplate and regret a lifetime of lies and victimization before he left us. And that, as a joke on his family, he left all his money to charity, and hadn’t managed to change his will back before he died. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2017, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-bag-of-pig-suet-and-sexual-harassment-roger-ailes-dead-at-77/786942/85 "2017-05-20T04:33:41Z")
> [@Larry\_Borgia](#): > > …might show us the way by telling us all the great things Ailes did, privately and professionally. Saw cut of Sean “The Big Giant Head” Hannity choking back tears as he talked about how Roger Ailes had made him the man he was. So, there’s that. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2017, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-bag-of-pig-suet-and-sexual-harassment-roger-ailes-dead-at-77/786942/86 "2017-05-20T14:26:22Z")
I, for one, can thank Ailes for leading me to realize that I am on a “side”, and that all questions, political, personal, moral, are best- nay, ONLY understood viewed through the lens of which side any given behavior served. For example, Hitler. Right-winger. Total asshole. No brainer, amirite? Stalin. Left winger. Hey, nobody’s perfect, quit exaggerating his flaws, you partisan hacks!! :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2017, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-bag-of-pig-suet-and-sexual-harassment-roger-ailes-dead-at-77/786942/87 "2017-05-20T14:48:51Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > Stalin. Left winger. Hey, nobody’s perfect, quit exaggerating his flaws, you partisan hacks!! :mad: Maybe I missed where this is sarcasm, but if this is your opinion of liberals, then you’re a jackass who likes to put words in his enemy’s mouths to make them seem more evil and easier to hate. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2017, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-bag-of-pig-suet-and-sexual-harassment-roger-ailes-dead-at-77/786942/88 "2017-05-20T14:56:10Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > I, for one, can thank Ailes for leading me to realize that I am on a “side”, and that all questions, political, personal, moral, are best- nay, ONLY understood viewed through the lens of which side any given behavior served. > > For example, Hitler. Right-winger. Total asshole. No brainer, amirite? > > Stalin. Left winger. Hey, nobody’s perfect, quit exaggerating his flaws, you partisan hacks!! :mad: You’re right. It’s become so much a part of the landscape that we don’t even see anymore just how weird it is. Everything is now political. Science, religion, morality, sexuality, music, even what we eat and drink. And that’s largely due to Ailes and his ilk. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2017, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-bag-of-pig-suet-and-sexual-harassment-roger-ailes-dead-at-77/786942/89 "2017-05-20T15:05:47Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > In short, most if not all of the allegations against Cosby are a money grab, sensationalized by left-wing media and glommed onto by outraged social justice warriors incensed by Cosby’s very common sensical pronouncements regarding the way many young black guys comport themselves. (Where else but in liberal bizzaro land would a person be excoriated for criticizing men for fathering babies they have no intention of raising?) > > There may…may…be two or three women with legitimate claims against Cosby, but they remain unproven thus far. The rest is utter bullshit characterized by stories with holes you could drive a truck through. D’ya think when you die, your thread will look more like this thread or like the one about the Soundgarden frontman? More “what a shame, he was a great guy”, or “Good riddance, what a shitty human being”? Saying that _dozens_ of women who came forward to claim they were raped were probably all just looking for a payoff doesn’t put you on the nice side of that equation. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2017, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-bag-of-pig-suet-and-sexual-harassment-roger-ailes-dead-at-77/786942/90 "2017-05-20T15:14:24Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > D’ya think when you die, your thread will look more like this thread or like the one about the Soundgarden frontman? More “what a shame, he was a great guy”, or “Good riddance, what a shitty human being”? Saying that _dozens_ of women who came forward to claim they were raped were probably all just looking for a payoff doesn’t put you on the nice side of that equation. I think that post was the very first time I’ve put a long-term poster on my Ignore List for a single post that didn’t even tangentially involve me. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2017, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-bag-of-pig-suet-and-sexual-harassment-roger-ailes-dead-at-77/786942/91 "2017-05-20T15:54:55Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Maybe I missed where this is sarcasm, but if this is your opinion of liberals, then you’re a jackass who likes to put words in his enemy’s mouths to make them seem more evil and easier to hate. I thought I was posting an obviously parodical reductio ad absurdum of Ailes’ intellectual contribution to the world. I apologize for the inconvenience. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2017, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-bag-of-pig-suet-and-sexual-harassment-roger-ailes-dead-at-77/786942/92 "2017-05-20T15:59:22Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > I thought I was posting an obviously parodical reductio ad absurdum of Ailes’ intellectual contribution to the world. I apologize for the inconvenience. Ah, ok, my apologies as well. I’m narfled by allergies this morning and was confused by such a thing coming from you. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2017, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-bag-of-pig-suet-and-sexual-harassment-roger-ailes-dead-at-77/786942/93 "2017-05-20T18:26:13Z")
[Here’s a take from Stephen Metcalf in the New Yorker.](http://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/how-roger-ailes-degraded-the-tone-of-public-life-in-america) It’s more sober than Matt Taibbi’s article, but pretty much reaches the same conclusion: Ailes was a deeply disturbed very talented man who caused serious damage to the American political landscape. He doesn’t even go into his loathsome personal behavior. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-bag-of-pig-suet-and-sexual-harassment-roger-ailes-dead-at-77/786942/94 "2017-05-21T01:37:33Z")
So, have we been told who killed Aisles? Was it Obama? ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-bag-of-pig-suet-and-sexual-harassment-roger-ailes-dead-at-77/786942/95 "2017-05-21T03:18:53Z")
> [@Mighty\_Girl](#): > > So, have we been told who killed Aisles? Was it Obama? It was Killary, of course. Who else? ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-bag-of-pig-suet-and-sexual-harassment-roger-ailes-dead-at-77/786942/96 "2017-05-21T03:21:08Z")
> [@Mighty\_Girl](#): > > So, have we been told who killed Aisles? Was it Obama? I understand he choked to death trying to swallow a suckling pig whole. ---
**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-bag-of-pig-suet-and-sexual-harassment-roger-ailes-dead-at-77/786942/97 "2017-05-21T04:14:28Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > D’ya think when you die, your thread will look more like this thread or like the one about the Soundgarden frontman? More “what a shame, he was a great guy”, or “Good riddance, what a shitty human being”? Saying that _dozens_ of women who came forward to claim they were raped were probably all just looking for a payoff doesn’t put you on the nice side of that equation. After all his effort defending Jerry Sandusky, I don’t think he’s ever going to find himself on the great guy list. He seems to have a soft spot for rapists. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-bag-of-pig-suet-and-sexual-harassment-roger-ailes-dead-at-77/786942/98 "2017-05-21T04:19:49Z")
Yes, it’s perched on his neck. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-bag-of-pig-suet-and-sexual-harassment-roger-ailes-dead-at-77/786942/99 "2017-05-21T05:07:47Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > My grandmother advised that the correct procedure on the recently departed is not to say anything if one cannot say something nice. > > So, anyway, how about those Twins? DeVito was sleazy, but with a disarming charm and vulnerable insecurity that ultimately made him likable. Schwarzenegger, otoh, was somewhat stilted in his golden boy/paragon guilelessness. His character’s sentimental urge to effect the reunion of his “family,” such as it was, was saved from mawkishness by the growing affection that DeVito’s character developed towards his. ---
**Author:** ![HeweyLogan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heweylogan/32/547_2.png) [@HeweyLogan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeweyLogan)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-bag-of-pig-suet-and-sexual-harassment-roger-ailes-dead-at-77/786942/100 "2017-05-21T13:13:08Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > And y’all know that ol’ **Hewey** is a troll, right? Because I won’t rally around and rah rah rah!!! pissing on the grave of a guy that just died. Who’s hatred is born out of an irrational hatred for a news network you despise. Pound sand you bag of wind. > [@davidm](#): > > Not sure why the sudden interest in Clinton… In my case I thought bringing him up was obvious - it’s a great example of how two people accused of similar crimes will be remembered differently in death simply because of their ideologies. Unless when Clinton dies you’ll say you wish you could piss on his grave too, in which case I’ll take back my criticism. It’s not blatantly hypocritical then. The hypocrisy of it all is what gets me, if it wasn’t obvious. > [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > I’ll be the bleeding heart. In fact, I am one of your more radical lefty, liberal, progressives you’re likely to meet. Here’s the thing … Roger Ailes was a horrible person, but he was still a person. No matter what kind of shitty stuff he did to people - and I’m convinced he did a lot and he deserved to be unhappy in life - he ain’t got life anymore. And I find celebrating anyone’s loss of life to be distasteful, to say the least. I didn’t even celebrate death when we snuffed bin Laden. Sure, I celebrated that justice was served and that a chapter to a nightmare was put to rest, but I didn’t celebrate death. I won’t do it. Exactly. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-bag-of-pig-suet-and-sexual-harassment-roger-ailes-dead-at-77/786942.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-bag-of-pig-suet-and-sexual-harassment-roger-ailes-dead-at-77/786942.md?page=6)