# Human Branching **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [June 15, 2004, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-branching/250395 "2004-06-15T00:04:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2004, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-branching/250395/181 "2004-06-18T01:33:15Z")
And what about the Jewish-owned media? You keep ignoring that question. It detracts from your credibility, such as it is. ---
**Author:** ![Atticus\_Finch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ec9cab/32.png) [@Atticus\_Finch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atticus_Finch)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2004, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-branching/250395/182 "2004-06-18T01:38:42Z")
What are the branches? ---
**Author:** ![hellothere](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/9de053/32.png) [@hellothere](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hellothere)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2004, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-branching/250395/183 "2004-06-18T01:41:24Z")
> [@pizzabrat](#): > > Hate speech _laws_? Where? Don’t they have a constitutional law against laws like that? I’m rather certain that hate speech laws already exist, to some degree, but without doubt they have been trying to pass more strict ones - I don’t know, specifically, what success the anti-free speechers are having. The problem with legislation like this is the umbrella of hate speech. They include lots of things and the mere notion of “hurting someones feelings” can become hate speech. If there are no such laws, yet, then I see no reason to have the multi-racial extremist laws. However, people do get fired, very often from their jobs for saying something deemed “inappropriate.” The same should be true of extreme multi-racialists that say something towards people who respect the branching human race. ---
**Author:** ![hellothere](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/9de053/32.png) [@hellothere](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hellothere)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2004, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-branching/250395/184 "2004-06-18T01:42:44Z")
> [@lambchops](#): > > What are the branches? Do you not understand the concept of Genetic Distance? Genetic distance creates a branch… **PERIOD** If you don’t get that I can’t help you - study biology and genetics. ---
**Author:** ![Zagadka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zagadka/32/7272_2.png) [@Zagadka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zagadka)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2004, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-branching/250395/185 "2004-06-18T01:44:35Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Yes, I saw that graph, but somehow I don’t think that’s what **hellothere** is talking about when he says “branches.” I mean, on the graph there’s “Europeans,” and on one side of them “Iranians,” and on the other side “Sardinians.” Is that the level of discrimination **hellothere** is talking about? Sardinians should be taught it’s all right to mate with other Sardinians? I don’t think so. Noted. But until we have better, that is what is on the page he keeps referring us to. Also note: [http://www.humanbranching.com/images/human-4.gif](http://www.humanbranching.com/images/human-4.gif) Apparently, humans are amazingly LESS genetically diverse than chimps, which somehow plays into his argument. I’m not sure how, since the basis is that we are genetically diverse. O\_o ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2004, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-branching/250395/186 "2004-06-18T01:44:47Z")
Yes, yes, “genetic distance creates a branch,” we all get that part, but what branches **has** it created? For your purposes, where do you decide where one branch ends and the next begins? This is a perfectly relevant factual question regarding your argument, and you keep dodging it. ---
**Author:** ![hellothere](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/9de053/32.png) [@hellothere](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hellothere)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2004, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-branching/250395/187 "2004-06-18T01:46:29Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > We cannot discuss that idea meaningfully until we have a clearer idea of what you’re talking about. You’re still being rather vague. (In fact, in this thread you have yet to identify a single example of what you would consider a distinct and coherent genetic group for mate-selection purposes. For all we can tell, that might be anything from the whole global population of a given “race” or “color,” to the 50-member Juke clan of Hellmouth Hollow, West Virginia.) > **Please reference post #184 for what a brach is** > > Can you give us a **specific example** of an “extreme multi-racialist” statement which, in your opinion, ought to subject the speaker to prosecution for “hate speech”? Preferably, some well-known public statement with which we might already be familiar from the media. There are plenty… but for another time… No need to change the world in one sitting. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2004, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-branching/250395/188 "2004-06-18T01:48:49Z")
You keep arguing in circles, **hellothere.** You “genetic distances” creates “branches,” and a “branch” is what “genetic distance” creates. Here, maybe if you answer this it will help us nail it down: **How many** distinct “branches” of humanity are there? Four or five? Hundreds? Thousands? Or as many branches as there are individuals? ---
**Author:** ![MelCthefirst](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eada6e/32.png) [@MelCthefirst](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MelCthefirst)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2004, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-branching/250395/189 "2004-06-18T01:51:12Z")
Perhaps if you provide a branch profile of yourself, including your unique genetic traits and who you can mate with. This would go a long way to explaining what the make up of a branch. ---
**Author:** ![hellothere](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/9de053/32.png) [@hellothere](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hellothere)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2004, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-branching/250395/190 "2004-06-18T01:51:44Z")
> [@Mangetout](#): > > It isn’t the concept of branching I’m questioning; I want you to clarify exactly where you draw the line between ‘outside’ and ‘inside’ a branch (we could be argued to each be branches of one unique individual, or we could be argued to be all part of the same branch, called ‘humans’, or a wide range of points in between; where do YOU draw the line\>? **Please reference post #184 for what a brach is** I will further answer you specific question as to where I draw the line as opposed to where you or someone else does. There are certainly hundreds of branches in existence - and it’s all based upon post #184. The original celtic people would be a separate branch from the original nordic people? What is “original.” It’s all relative to Genetic distance. While complete isolation makes the distinction of one branch between another most crisp and clear, admixture between different branches, which causes genetic drift, is also a natural part of genetic branching. So if branch ‘1’ has a small amount of admixture from branch ‘2’, branch ‘1’ still exists as a unique branch. If all members of branch ‘1’ mate with members from branch ‘2’ in a generation or two, their gene pools would completely combine and the unique aggregate Genetic traits of branch ‘1’ would no longer exist. They would become a new branch (branch ‘3’). 1+2=3 You should be able to understand, precisely how I “see the lines” of branching now. This isn’t just how I see it… I see what is real, genetic distance. ---
**Author:** ![Zagadka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zagadka/32/7272_2.png) [@Zagadka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zagadka)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2004, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-branching/250395/191 "2004-06-18T01:52:05Z")
How much Genetic Distance ™ is there in a Human Branch ®? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2004, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-branching/250395/192 "2004-06-18T01:52:34Z")
And dammit, give us some hard cites about the Jewish-owned media! ---
**Author:** ![MelCthefirst](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eada6e/32.png) [@MelCthefirst](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MelCthefirst)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2004, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-branching/250395/193 "2004-06-18T01:57:44Z")
Hellothere - I think everyone is understanding the concept of genetic distance. I (possibly we) would like some more specific information, otherwise it appears that I should mate with my brothers because we have the least genetic distance. ---
**Author:** ![MelCthefirst](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eada6e/32.png) [@MelCthefirst](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MelCthefirst)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2004, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-branching/250395/194 "2004-06-18T01:59:11Z")
How will we know who to mate with? A national register? ---
**Author:** ![Zagadka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zagadka/32/7272_2.png) [@Zagadka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zagadka)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2004, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-branching/250395/195 "2004-06-18T02:02:01Z")
> [@hellothere](#): > > If all members of branch ‘1’ mate with members from branch ‘2’ in a generation or two, their gene pools would completely combine and the unique aggregate Genetic traits of branch ‘1’ would no longer exist. They would become a new branch (branch ‘3’). 1+2=3 So that is what you fear, extinction of your (special) branch. As I’ve said before, cultures, races, and nations live and die like the rest of life. They leave behind their traces and their children to grow anew, though. I don’t feel some special calling to keep my racial purity, and I don’t think most people do. Well, ironically enough, there may be some extremist blacks and such who feel the same way as you. However, the whole concept of “racially pure” is a fallacy. There is no purity, only varying degrees of impurity. Your branch will change and branch out, like it or not, and there isn’t much you can do about it, outside of total segregation/isolation (as suggested by the nutca- er, gentleman in the Genetic Freedom thread, **castaway**. I have a feeling the two of you could start a nice little commune somewhere together. ---
**Author:** ![hellothere](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/9de053/32.png) [@hellothere](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hellothere)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2004, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-branching/250395/196 "2004-06-18T02:06:46Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Cite? It amazes me that you live on planet Earth and you still don’t understand who it is that owns the media outlets of our world. This is actually common knowledge. You exist in some kind of fantasy world. I’ll allow the Jews, themselves, to tell you about it. i’ll temporarily post this article by Ben Stein, to my website: [http://www.humanbranching.com/media-ownership.htm](http://www.humanbranching.com/media-ownership.htm) I’m sure you’ll want some more “cites” and there are plenty, but, frankly, I’m not your daddy, your a big boy and you should be able to figure these things out for yourself. ---
**Author:** ![hellothere](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/9de053/32.png) [@hellothere](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hellothere)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2004, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-branching/250395/197 "2004-06-18T02:14:40Z")
> [@Zagadka](#): > > Wow, not only do you dislike people of color, you also dislike Jews… the more you call me an extremist multi-racialist, the more I like it O\_o If I had a brain like your’s zagada, I would have to start talking about how you like to have sex with children… or some nonsense like that because that is how much intelligence you are adding to this conversation at this point. Your media conditioning is coming out loud and clear. See the problem is this Zagada. You havn’t been educated about the “branching human race” concept and all you have to reference are you anti-racist diatribes. It’s all you know and you’re having trouble process the natural truth of human genetic branching. Give it time. This is precisely why I suggest that we need to educate people about the branching human race… to prevent this kind of rediculous “hateful” speech aimed in my direction or any persons direction who respects genetic branching. ---
**Author:** ![Zagadka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zagadka/32/7272_2.png) [@Zagadka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zagadka)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2004, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-branching/250395/198 "2004-06-18T02:19:04Z")
> [@hellothere](#): > > [http://www.humanbranching.com/media-ownership.htm](http://www.humanbranching.com/media-ownership.htm) So some study (we don’t know what it was) by 60 Minutes (I think) defines that 60% of “Hollywood” (what is that? A corporate entity? Who decideds who is in Hollywood and who isn’t?) is “owned by Jews.” Not only does “Hollywood” not equal “the media,” it also proves nothing of a vast media conspiracy, other than that a few rich Jews own a lot of stuff in Hollywood. But clearly this investigation was hushed-up by the Jew-run media. But your report goes further on to discuss how the Jews who run the Jewish conspiracy aren’t really Jews, they are just Americans who happen to be Jewish. It stresses this in big, bold letters like, “These are Jews who want to play polo, not davvinn in shul. These are Jews whose children play soccer and learn horseback riding in Malibu.” Not only that, but these aren’t _ethnic_ Jews, they are Slavic Jews. That is another conspiracy altogether! ---
**Author:** ![hellothere](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/9de053/32.png) [@hellothere](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hellothere)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2004, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-branching/250395/199 "2004-06-18T02:19:05Z")
> [@Zagadka](#): > > What is a branch? **A branch is defined by post #184** ---
**Author:** ![Zagadka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zagadka/32/7272_2.png) [@Zagadka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zagadka)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2004, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-branching/250395/200 "2004-06-18T02:20:09Z")
> [@hellothere](#): > > **A branch is defined by post #184** How much Genetic Distance is there in a Branch? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-branching/250395.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/human-branching/250395.md?page=11)