# Hunter Biden Laptop Question **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [October 22, 2020, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hunter-biden-laptop-question/923587 "2020-10-22T11:17:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![Hands](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/838e76/32.png) [@Hands](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hands)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hunter-biden-laptop-question/923587/304 "2020-10-28T22:30:58Z")
Uh huh. Good for him. The primary problem is that the Hunter laptop raises is with China not with Russia. Anyway, how would Putin know about that? But of course the MSM only addresses objections to the story. Not the actual evidence. As of today, reporters have sill failed to ask Joe about Bobulinki’s claims. And these pep[le all themselves “journalists.” Hah. G **Gaylen R. Hansen | Retired CPA** ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hunter-biden-laptop-question/923587/305 "2020-10-28T22:32:57Z")
There is no actual evidence. Just rumor and innuendo. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hunter-biden-laptop-question/923587/306 "2020-10-28T22:37:53Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > - Hunter Biden is not Joe Biden. Your analogy fails here. The question is whether Joe Biden was a participant and recipient of favors in these deals. Biden says that he has _never_ talked to his son about his business deals. Bobulinski says that he was personally present in at least one meeting about the business with Joe Biden, and flatly states that Biden is lying. > [@](#): > > - Bobulinski has not, to my knowledge, come out and said that either Biden is a crook. Your analogy fails here. He says that he is lying, that he takes part in his son’s business ventures, that he personally vetoed Bobulinski’s demand for proper accounting controls on the business, etc. > [@](#): > > - You neglect to mention the totally unbelievable story of how a laptop came into the possession of a (blind? not blind?) dude in an obscure store. Your analogy fails here. Actually, in my very first post I said that the way the laptop landed in Guliani’s care was sketchy as hell, and a classic way to ‘launder’ intel. So it could be disinformation, or it could be that someone obtained the laptop illegally, then pulled the ‘left at a computer place’ stunt to launder the origin. That doesn’t mean the material is fake, or that it should be ignored, After all, the New York Times obtained Trump’s tax returns illegally, but no one cared about that. And we’ve been treated to three years of anonymous leaks about Trump, and I can’t remember anyone getting bent out of shape that the sources were unknown or sketchy. Also, let’s not forget that Hunter Biden is a crack addict. Addicts sometimes do crazy things. It’s possible that the laptop is 99% true, but ‘salted’ with extra-bad disinformation, So anything that comes put of it needs to be verified. Having Biden’s former business partner come forward and say that everything he’s seen is true, and provide his end of the conversations, should be enough for a real investigation. We have an actual eyewitness willing to testify and has documentation of some of these things. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hunter-biden-laptop-question/923587/307 "2020-10-28T22:38:20Z")
Because you appear to possess supernatural levels of credulity, can you please cite your specific and exact claims and what outlets are presenting them? > [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > So Hunter Biden’s partner, who is a primary participant in those emails, says they are true, and who has turned over copies to the FBI that match those on the hard drive, doesn’t count? Cite? > [@](#): > > I wonder what the left would have said if one of Trump’s ex-business partners came out saying that Trump was a crook, that he had documentation to that effect, was willjng to be interviewed by the FBI, and who turned over phones with voice conversations corroborating his story? Cite? > [@](#): > > I’m sure everyone would just say there was nothing to see there, because the guy probably had an axe to grind or something. Wouldn’t want to accuse Trump without rock-solid evidence, right? The difference is, Biden (neither of them) has done anything wrong. There is literally no evidence either of them has done anything wrong. And the only suggestion of such is from Guiliani, an insane lying drunk and a guy who literally tried along with Trump to blackmail Ukraine to fabricate evidence against Biden. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hunter-biden-laptop-question/923587/308 "2020-10-28T22:41:12Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > should be enough for a real investigation. And that’s the entire point of the farce. Have the FBI announce “an investigation into Joe Biden.” Where have we seen this bullshit ploy pulled before? Say, around 4 years ago. The fact that some are falling for it AGAIN is actually quite sad. But hey, maybe Trump and Co. are not lying to you THIS TIME. Go have a kick at the football again Charlie Brown. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hunter-biden-laptop-question/923587/309 "2020-10-28T22:41:32Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > The question is whether Joe Biden was a participant and recipient of favors in these deals. Biden says that he has _never_ talked tomhis son about his business deals. Bobulinski says that he was personally present in at least one meeting about the business with Joe Biden, and flatly states that Biden is lying. Who cares? Why should anyone care what some random dude who may have some tenuous connection to Hunter Biden says, without evidence, a week before the election? There’s no evidence of any actual investigation into the Bidens. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hunter-biden-laptop-question/923587/310 "2020-10-28T22:47:57Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > And that’s the entire point of the farce. Have the FBI announce “an investigation into Joe Biden.” > > Where have we seen this bullshit ploy pulled before? Say, around 4 years ago. > > The fact that some are falling for it AGAIN is actually quite sad. > > But hey, maybe Trump and Co. are not lying to you THIS TIME. Go have a kick at the football again Charlie Brown. > **[The MAGAverse tries to summon another Clinton-FBI moment](https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/24/trump-maga-hunter-biden-conspiracy-432046)** > > The ingredients are the same: a seized laptop, leaked emails. But this time MAGA adherents are sourcing the ingredients and hoping the FBI takes it up. > In the final days of the 2020 race, MAGA world is trying to conjure up the same event that helped them in the home stretch of 2016 — an out-of-left-field FBI investigation into their opponent. > > The ingredients are all the same: a seized laptop, leaked emails, insinuations and vague allegations of malfeasance, a hype machine of ardent Trump supporters. > > The difference, however, is that this time an FBI investigation is not supplying the ingredients. Instead, MAGA adherents are sourcing the ingredients and hoping they summon an FBI investigation. And, of course, the new target is Joe Biden, not Hillary Clinton. > > It’s an eleventh-hour scramble to recreate the situation that arguably helped lift President Donald Trump over Clinton: The FBI announcement, just 11 days before the election, that it was reopening a probe into Clinton after finding more of her State Department emails on a laptop. The move gave Trump and his base last-minute nuggets they needed to spin up claims of corruption, even if many of those claims were merit-free or overstated. Though the bureau closed the probe again just days later after finding nothing, the damage was done. > > Now, Trumpworld is leaning on the FBI to essentially make a similar announcement at almost exactly the same time. Rudy Giuliani, the president’s personal lawyer and self-appointed private investigator, has obtained a laptop he claims belongs to Joe Biden’s son, Hunter. He has [handed](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/10/21/rudy-giuliani-gives-alleged-hunter-biden-laptop-authorities/6005040002/) the laptop over to the FBI, claiming it contains emails that show a variety of misdeeds and corruption — even if the emails aren’t all verified, don’t offer conclusive evidence of the misdeeds and bear the hallmarks of a Russian disinformation effort. ---
**Author:** ![Hands](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/838e76/32.png) [@Hands](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hands)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hunter-biden-laptop-question/923587/311 "2020-10-28T22:49:30Z")
Plenty of evidence and unanswered questions. As of today, Joe has not answered any. And pretty unremarkable reporters have not even bothered to ask him yet. This is not going to go away just because you want it to. Until it gets resolved what you believe is irrelevant. G **Gaylen R. Hansen | Retired CPA** ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hunter-biden-laptop-question/923587/312 "2020-10-28T22:52:28Z")
There is no evidence. You haven’t actually presented any. Saying there’s evidence isn’t the same thing as actually having evidence. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hunter-biden-laptop-question/923587/313 "2020-10-28T22:54:14Z")
Respectfully, your beliefs about conspiracy theories are irrelevant. You have zero case here. Maybe that will change, but as of now, you’re just huffing Giuliani’s farts. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hunter-biden-laptop-question/923587/314 "2020-10-28T22:56:18Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > There is no evidence. You haven’t actually presented any. Saying there’s evidence isn’t the same thing as actually having evidence. For shits ‘n’ giggles, let’s say there is evidence but it’s being kept hidden by MSM. How would _anyone_ _ **know** _ what that evidence _is?_ ---
**Author:** ![Hands](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/838e76/32.png) [@Hands](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hands)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hunter-biden-laptop-question/923587/315 "2020-10-28T22:57:04Z")
Sort of like the Russia, Russia, Russia story, right lefty? **Gaylen R. Hansen | Retired CPA** ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hunter-biden-laptop-question/923587/316 "2020-10-28T22:59:17Z")
Muller found 8 instances of obstruction of justice, and the recent Republican-lead Senate report has multiple instances of collusion. But you knew that, right? I mean you’re a sharp fella. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hunter-biden-laptop-question/923587/317 "2020-10-28T22:59:33Z")
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**Author:** ![Wolf333](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf333/32/3460_2.png) [@Wolf333](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolf333)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hunter-biden-laptop-question/923587/318 "2020-10-28T23:03:23Z")
Spanked by Ann\_Hedonia ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hunter-biden-laptop-question/923587/319 "2020-10-28T23:05:28Z")
.nvm. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hunter-biden-laptop-question/923587/320 "2020-10-28T23:11:45Z")
> [@Hands](#): > > Plenty of evidence and unanswered questions. Yes, evidence of suspicious activity by Guilianni, and lots of questions about why anybody would believe any of this pile of horse manure. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hunter-biden-laptop-question/923587/321 "2020-10-28T23:12:19Z")
Consumers of right wing media once again demonstrate that they have a poor understanding of the news gathering process. The credibility of the “evidence” was so shabby in nature that Fox News, presented with it first, declined to run it. (which hasn’t prevented Fox from trumpeting the “questions” that have been raised; who cares if the reporting techniques are laughable?) Don’t clear space on the shelf for those Pulitzers just yet, NY Post reporters. ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hunter-biden-laptop-question/923587/322 "2020-10-28T23:13:33Z")
> [@Red\_Wiggler](#): > > The credibility of the “evidence” was so shabby in nature that Fox News, presented with it first, declined to run it. As did The Wall St Journal ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hunter-biden-laptop-question/923587/323 "2020-10-28T23:15:25Z")
as did Count Chocula himself: > **[Scoop: Rudy Giuliani declined offer of alleged Hunter Biden emails and images...](https://www.salon.com/2020/10/22/scoop-rudy-giuliani-declined-offer-of-compromising-hunter-biden-emails-and-images-in-may-2019/)** > > Giuliani turned the offer down out of credibility concerns, a source familiar with the meeting tells Salon I’m still waiting to hear back from that team of investigators, sent to Hawaii, to prove that Obama is a Kenyan-born Muslim. And waiting. And waiting … [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hunter-biden-laptop-question/923587.md?page=15) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hunter-biden-laptop-question/923587.md?page=17)