# Hunter Biden Laptop Question

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hunter-biden-laptop-question/923587>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [October 22, 2020, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hunter-biden-laptop-question/923587 "2020-10-22T11:17:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hunter-biden-laptop-question/923587/445 "2020-10-30T14:40:33Z")

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You’d have to start with confirming if the laptop was actually Hunter’s. After that, there are chain of custody concerns. If you resolve both of those, then you should be able to validate those documents from other sources (server storage, other parties to the emails, etc).

But getting past the first 2 right now has not even been done.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hunter-biden-laptop-question/923587/446 "2020-10-30T14:40:44Z")

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Understood. I think we’re in agreement.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hunter-biden-laptop-question/923587/447 "2020-10-30T14:41:37Z")

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That’s my assumption.

Hack his laptop, get a bunch of legitimate emails and documents from it that ties it to him and gives it credibility, then put that, along with manufactured evidence on a new laptop to be discovered.

It doesn’t need to stand up to scrutiny, as we have seen, as those who want to believe it will not give it that scrutiny.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hunter-biden-laptop-question/923587/448 "2020-10-30T14:42:19Z")

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agreed.

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**Author:** ![agzem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@agzem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/agzem)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hunter-biden-laptop-question/923587/449 "2020-10-30T15:04:56Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> A 64-page document that was later disseminated by close associates of President Donald Trump appears to be the work of a fake "intelligence firm.

The article says it **"went viral**". I’ve followed the Hunter Biden news updates regularly and have never heard anything about that. It has nothing to do with the laptop.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hunter-biden-laptop-question/923587/450 "2020-10-30T15:20:06Z")

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Lol, the very article lays waste to this claim:

[![Google Photos](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/RE9u1sb9-cZO6sZphX6T2u61xSfrjyRC3WXITki1ZO5ivK8wSPcZ0Je-K9cJJaA3_pF8GNgmgGvKojM6b8jfuAhgovjLzrvN8wIPaJ_aomEIT8DIQQpB-PbttGxyseooARC1PcrFHg=w600-h315-p-k "New item by John Thornton") ](https://photos.app.goo.gl/1AMtty7CWNrCkaaH6)

The document was a precursor to generating BS conspiracy theories to lay the groundwork for acceptance of the laptop story.

Guys, we saw the President get _impeached_ for trying to gin up this crap, so when the crap finally got ginned up, why do y’all think this is anything but bullshit?

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hunter-biden-laptop-question/923587/451 "2020-10-30T15:23:54Z")

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After a full investigation of “the laptop”, I will be very happy to see Giuliani (and others) prosecuted. I think they should start by flipping the repair shop guy. Found out who actually gave him the laptop.

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**Author:** ![agzem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@agzem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/agzem)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hunter-biden-laptop-question/923587/452 "2020-10-30T15:42:41Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> The document was a precursor

If by “ **precursor** ” you mean “ **something that happened earlier** ” then yes that is true. But this has nothing to do with the laptop. I’ve never heard of this “64 page document” before today and it appears it was never reported by any reputable media outlet. Both Mark Zuckerberg and Jack Dorsey testified under oath this week that there is **no evidence** that the laptop is Russian disinformation. The FBI confirmed this week that there is an open investigation into Hunter Biden and associates regarding allegations of money laundering. And a Biden spokesperson didn’t deny that Biden met with Bobulinksi:

> **[Biden Campaign Spox Doesn’t Deny Biden Met with Hunter’s Business Partner,...](https://grabien.com/story.php?id=312247)**
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> ‘We are not going to waste any time on this smear campaign’

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hunter-biden-laptop-question/923587/453 "2020-10-30T15:43:49Z")

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I don’t go to either Dorsey or Zuckerberg for counterintelligence work, nor should you.

It’s a bullshit story, all of it. Stop pushing this nonsense.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hunter-biden-laptop-question/923587/454 "2020-10-30T15:44:39Z")

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> [@agzem](#):
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> The FBI confirmed this week that there is an open investigation into Hunter Biden and associates regarding allegations of money laundering

So? The FBI announced the week before 2016 that they were investigating Hillary’s emails. There wasn’t anything there, either.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hunter-biden-laptop-question/923587/455 "2020-10-30T16:50:30Z")

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Guys cut Quicksilver some slack on this. I SPECIFICALLY indicated that I wanted his rating IF the allegations were true. Quicklsiver has repeatedly stated that he does not think that they are true, and I have no reason to doubt that he thinks this. This is also why my corruption rating of 0.4 was so high. Since they are bullshit I would actually rate him at a 0.1-0.2.

This is like asking in GQ what would happen if the sun suddenly turned into a black hole, and having the answers criticized because our sun isn’t large enough to collapse into one.

The only comment to Quicksilver I have is that if as he says even if the allegations were true he still thinks that Biden is on the below average level of corruption, why make such a big deal about it? At worst its grumble grumble I guess he’s not quite as pure as I thought oh well we all have our faults.

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**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hunter-biden-laptop-question/923587/456 "2020-10-30T16:51:18Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Your still ‘assuming’ they are true.
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> They are not. So, no, you’re not being clear enough.

It’s a common rhetorical device. Assuming for the sake of argument. He was asked the hypothetical, after stating multiple times that he did not believe the allegations were true. “Assuming it’s true” is a way of saying, “it is not proved,” or “I don’t believe it,” “but hypothetically, (even) if it were true, then …”

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hunter-biden-laptop-question/923587/457 "2020-10-30T17:38:32Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> The FBI announced the week before 2016 that they were investigating Hillary’s emails.

The key difference between then and now, as noted in the article linked up in Post #310, is that the FBI hasn’t really said anything about any investigation since last year.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hunter-biden-laptop-question/923587/458 "2020-10-30T18:05:58Z")

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The “hypothetical” aka “Just Asking Questions” is something which most reasonable people would assume is just there to attack Biden.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hunter-biden-laptop-question/923587/459 "2020-10-30T18:06:56Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> I’m happy to use the word “Pretending”. Or whichever word would make people feel more at ease with the fact that I don’t for one second believe the laptop story or anything related because, as I’ve said, there is no there there. _Bupkis._

Then drop it.

How about let’s “pretend” that trump is a lizard person?

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hunter-biden-laptop-question/923587/460 "2020-10-30T18:10:39Z")

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Because, for the nth time, you dont deny this kind of crap.

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**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hunter-biden-laptop-question/923587/461 "2020-10-30T18:16:48Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> So assuming the allegations were true, where would you think that would put Biden in the ranking of the current set of Senators and Congressmen with 0.0 being least corrupt and 1.0 being most corrupt (I would say it probably would put him at a 0.4).

Quicksilver was asked the question, in those exact terms. Come on, this board is better than this.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hunter-biden-laptop-question/923587/462 "2020-10-30T18:28:51Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> > [@Babale](#):
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> > The FBI announced the week before 2016 that they were investigating Hillary’s emails.
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> The key difference between then and now, as noted in the article linked up in Post #310, is that the FBI hasn’t really said anything about any investigation since last year

My point was that despite what the FBI said, there was nothing to those emails. You’re just making my case stronger that these Biden allegations are full of shit.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hunter-biden-laptop-question/923587/463 "2020-10-30T18:32:31Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> You’re just making my case stronger that these Biden allegations are full of shit.

That’s the idea. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hunter-biden-laptop-question/923587/464 "2020-10-30T18:37:21Z")

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> [@eschrodinger](#):
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> > [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> > So assuming the allegations were true, where would you think that would put Biden in the ranking of the current set of Senators and Congressmen with 0.0 being least corrupt and 1.0 being most corrupt (I would say it probably would put him at a 0.4).
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> Quicksilver was asked the question, in those exact terms. Come on, this board is better than this.

Some questions aren’t worth answering.

Assuming Trump is a lizard person from Sirius B, where would you think that would put Trump in the ranking of the current set of politicians, with 0.0 being least corrupt and 1.0 being most corrupt (I would say 37.6)

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