# Huntin', Shootin' and Fishin'.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huntin-shootin-and-fishin/507893>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 27, 2009, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huntin-shootin-and-fishin/507893 "2009-08-27T11:51:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![WILLASS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/54ee81/32.png) [@WILLASS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WILLASS)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huntin-shootin-and-fishin/507893/41 "2009-08-31T17:00:11Z")

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> [@E-Sabbath](#):
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> I shoot, but mostly shotguns, I no longer have the convenient shooting gallery. My new one was about 760fps, and cost me about 60 bucks. Maybe less. For 99-150, I think I could have gotten 1100.
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> But I havn’t been to a Wal-Mart that sold them and looked in a few years, my memory may be off. Even Crosman’s top of the line Marauder is only $500, not £500.
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> Daisy’s got a 800fps for $120. Weird, I don’t see any with the lever pump anymore.

Wow! It’s really expensive in the UK for a decent air rifle. I’d say absolute minimum you could ever pay brand new would be about £175 for a bottom of the line Crosman. Shame you can’t mail order them any more!

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**Author:** ![WILLASS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/54ee81/32.png) [@WILLASS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WILLASS)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huntin-shootin-and-fishin/507893/42 "2009-08-31T17:01:34Z")

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> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#):
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> Ugh. Shooting ducks on the water is considered extremely bad in most circles. Don’t let anyone see you do it. Better yet, buy a shotgun and do it the right way.

Really? Didn’t know that. I am eating them, not doing it for the sport and am on private land. Is that just as bad? Have I made some major faux pas?

Would love to but not an option for at least a year.

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**Author:** ![WILLASS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/54ee81/32.png) [@WILLASS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WILLASS)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huntin-shootin-and-fishin/507893/43 "2009-08-31T17:05:34Z")

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> [@Cowgirl\_Jules](#):
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> The rear leg is easier to work with, as the muscles are bigger. But if he’s giving you a whole forequarter, you’ll be fine. The shoulder has plenty of meat on it. I thought you were talking about lower down on the forequarter, instead of the whole piece.
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> Roadkill often is bruised and damaged though, so check it carefully. While I wouldn’t hesitate to use good roadkill if it was processed correctly, bruised meat is not good.

Ok, well I won’t be cheeky and ask for a different bit, I’ll stick with what he offered me. Apperently it’s in good shape but will check it for bruising before I start.

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**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huntin-shootin-and-fishin/507893/44 "2009-08-31T17:06:37Z")

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> [@WILLASS](#):
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> Really? Didn’t know that. I am eating them, not doing it for the sport and am on private land. Is that just as bad? Have I made some major faux pas?

In the US, almost all hunting is done on private land or on the water, so there’s no difference there. Also, I’d estimate that as many as 90% of hunters (100% of the ones I know) plan to eat the animals they kill.

Even so, shooting ducks on the water is extremely taboo, though perfectly legal in many/most states around here. It just isn’t done, though, and a bunch of hunters will get pretty angry about it. There isn’t a duck hunter out there who hasn’t spent a couple of hours in a blind waiting for the $%#@ ducks to get up. It’s just more fair for the ducks, since they’re almost completely immobile on the water, and defenseless. It also helps keep duck populations at sustainable levels.

Lastly, it is much, much more safe to fire a shotgun up in the air.

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**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2009, 9:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huntin-shootin-and-fishin/507893/45 "2009-09-01T09:43:38Z")

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> [@WILLASS](#):
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> Really? Didn’t know that. I am eating them, not doing it for the sport and am on private land. Is that just as bad? Have I made some major faux pas?

Yes, you have, I’m afraid. Shooting ducks on the water Just Isn’t The Done Thing, regardless of where you are.

There’s nothing wrong with hunting animals you aren’t going to eat, but you still have to be sporting about it, and that means not shooting ducks on the water.

And it’s very dangerous to fire a rifle in the air- the projectile will go for quite literally miles, and can still cause injury or death when it comes down. Shotguns are much “safer”, in that the shot has a much, much shorter range and less “oomph” after it’s reached that effective range too.

Now, if ducks are a plague where you are and they need to be culled, then it’s understandable to shoot _some_ of them “on the water”. But don’t tell anyone about it. Not Cricket, you see.

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**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2009, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huntin-shootin-and-fishin/507893/46 "2009-09-01T12:30:55Z")

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It has lots of info on Crosman airguns and modifications, along with links to other airgun forums. If you have questions, they’ll point you to where you can find the answer, if they can’t answer it themselves.

They helped me out when I purchased and modified/improved a Chinese knockoff of the old Crosman 160. I also used info from that site to purchase a Crosman 2240 pistol, and modify it into a carbine. There’s a wealth of knowledge there.

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