# Hurricane Ditka, Shodan, Octopus, and BigT... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 16, 2019, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ditka-shodan-octopus-and-bigt/843522 "2019-11-16T02:00:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ditka-shodan-octopus-and-bigt/843522/1 "2019-11-16T02:00:14Z")
all have my admiration for not allowing themselves to be shouted down. I am placing this in The Pit so that the usual choads can get right to their usual choading, ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ditka-shodan-octopus-and-bigt/843522/2 "2019-11-16T02:02:22Z")
Jesus Christ, man. ANOTHER thread about HD? LOL ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ditka-shodan-octopus-and-bigt/843522/3 "2019-11-16T02:04:17Z")
Shouldn’t you include that poster Scumpup also? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ditka-shodan-octopus-and-bigt/843522/4 "2019-11-16T02:08:51Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > Shouldn’t you include that poster Scumpup also? 🙂 No. He’s just some random asshole. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ditka-shodan-octopus-and-bigt/843522/5 "2019-11-16T02:09:35Z")
Yes, it takes a special kind of courage to post anonymously on an online message board. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ditka-shodan-octopus-and-bigt/843522/6 "2019-11-16T02:13:17Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Yes, it takes a special kind of courage to post anonymously on an online message board. And it takes an even more special kind of courage to do whatever it it is that you flatter yourself that you just did. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ditka-shodan-octopus-and-bigt/843522/7 "2019-11-16T02:26:58Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Yes, it takes a special kind of courage to post anonymously on an online message board. Scumpup is exceptionally cowardly, having run away for several months after he made a complete fool of himself [by asking people to pay him to go away.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=863787) [Of course, he’s a pretty pathetic individual in general.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=861741) He’s also a coward who likes to send abusive PMs to people so no one else will see. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ditka-shodan-octopus-and-bigt/843522/8 "2019-11-16T02:58:05Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > He’s also a coward who likes to send abusive PMs to people so no one else will see. Were these PMs sent to you personally? ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ditka-shodan-octopus-and-bigt/843522/9 "2019-11-16T02:58:20Z")
I’m not your token liberal so that you can seem nonpartisan. The whole point of my post was that the idea of being “shouted down” on a message board is a silly idea. As long as people don’t engage in a full on harassment campaign (which none of those listed have experienced here, as far as I know), it is merely our choice to post or not. Mere speech cannot silence anyone. And this board is moderated in such a way that mere speech is all that occurs (unless you break the rules and the mods have to intervene). Praising us in this way is an insult to us and the people who have responded to us in the past. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ditka-shodan-octopus-and-bigt/843522/10 "2019-11-16T03:04:27Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > I’m not your token liberal so that you can seem nonpartisan. > > The whole point of my post was that the idea of being “shouted down” on a message board is a silly idea. As long as people don’t engage in a full on harassment campaign (which none of those listed have experienced here, as far as I know), it is merely our choice to post or not. > > Mere speech cannot silence anyone. And this board is moderated in such a way that mere speech is all that occurs (unless you break the rules and the mods have to intervene). > > Praising us in this way is an insult to us and the people who have responded to us in the past. Now I’ve been drinking a lot tonight and I have to wonder if you have too because your post probably doesn’t mean what you want it to or “What the hell are you talking about?” ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ditka-shodan-octopus-and-bigt/843522/11 "2019-11-16T03:04:56Z")
Nm ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ditka-shodan-octopus-and-bigt/843522/12 "2019-11-16T03:14:28Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > Now I’ve been drinking a lot tonight and I have to wonder if you have too because your post probably doesn’t mean what you want it to or “What the hell are you talking about?” I’ve been drinking too, but it seems to me that BigT is annoyed that a poster he doesn’t like is praising him for doing things that other posters he doesn’t like are doing. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ditka-shodan-octopus-and-bigt/843522/13 "2019-11-16T03:20:21Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > I’ve been drinking too, but it seems to me that BigT is annoyed that a poster he doesn’t like is praising him for doing things that other posters he doesn’t like are doing. “Damning by faint praise”? ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ditka-shodan-octopus-and-bigt/843522/14 "2019-11-16T03:21:50Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > all have my admiration for not allowing themselves to be shouted down. I am placing this in The Pit so that the usual choads can get right to their usual choading, You really admire someone who doesn’t doesn’t completely disagree with someone killing hundreds of people and babies? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ditka-shodan-octopus-and-bigt/843522/15 "2019-11-16T03:22:48Z")
I’m unsurprised this particular OP sees an attempt to antagonize as being more worthwhile than an attempt to contribute. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ditka-shodan-octopus-and-bigt/843522/16 "2019-11-16T03:26:14Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > “Damning by faint praise”? I’m sure, but making it indistinguishable from actual praise is something that I admire 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ditka-shodan-octopus-and-bigt/843522/17 "2019-11-16T03:27:29Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Scumpup is exceptionally cowardly, having run away for several months after he made a complete fool of himself [by asking people to pay him to go away.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=863787) > > [Of course, he’s a pretty pathetic individual in general.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=861741) > > He’s also a coward who likes to send abusive PMs to people so no one else will see. My money is on you swallowing a bottle of pills the day this place goes dark. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ditka-shodan-octopus-and-bigt/843522/18 "2019-11-16T03:29:54Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > I’m sure, but making it indistinguishable from actual praise is something that I admire 🙂 How do you know it’s not praise then? ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ditka-shodan-octopus-and-bigt/843522/19 "2019-11-16T03:31:24Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > How do you know it’s not praise then? I don’t. My enjoyment comes from others trying to figure it out. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ditka-shodan-octopus-and-bigt/843522/20 "2019-11-16T03:34:25Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > I don’t. My enjoyment comes from others trying to figure it out. Why is that enjoyable to you? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ditka-shodan-octopus-and-bigt/843522.md?page=2)