# Hurricane Ditka, Shodan, Octopus, and  BigT...

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ditka-shodan-octopus-and-bigt/843522>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 16, 2019, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ditka-shodan-octopus-and-bigt/843522 "2019-11-16T02:00:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2019, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ditka-shodan-octopus-and-bigt/843522/121 "2019-11-18T03:53:48Z")

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> [@Scumpup](#):
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> That offer remains on the table. Those here who would find the place more pleasant with my permanent absence need only pony up the cash. Maybe take up a collection so they don’t have to dip into their children’s college fund. I mean, hell, many pay to belong to this place in its current state. Surely they should be willing to spend more to make it a better place. If not, then I shall continue to post here for as long as it amuses me and on whatever topics amuse me and my detractors have only their own cheapness to blame. See, they want to _compel_ my silence when they could quite easily just buy it.

Step 1: Find the nearest mirror.

Step 2: Look at the face staring back at you.

Step 3: Ask, “Is this what my life has become?”

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2019, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ditka-shodan-octopus-and-bigt/843522/122 "2019-11-18T03:54:28Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Silence. Imbecile.

Such ableistisms! Prepare yourself for a sanctimonious lecture from bone.

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2019, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ditka-shodan-octopus-and-bigt/843522/123 "2019-11-18T04:49:42Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> Step 1: Find the nearest mirror.
> 
> Step 2: Look at the face staring back at you.
> 
> Step 3: Ask, “Is this what my life has become?”

While that was a pretty funny post, one of the best in this thread, I don’t know why you would think I should have any regrets. I am offering a solution to other people who seem to have a problem. It isn’t their preferred solution i.e. that the Mighty Morphin’ Mod Squad make me go away. That, though, is just infantilism. They want the big people to do it for them instead of using the perfectly workable solution in front of them.

A long time ago, one of my teachers asked me whether I would rather insist on doing it my way and failing or would I consider doing in another way and getting the result I desired. She was pretty fucking smart.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2019, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ditka-shodan-octopus-and-bigt/843522/124 "2019-11-18T05:43:13Z")

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> [@Scumpup](#):
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> I am offering a solution to other people who seem to have a problem

Ill pay you to post a pic of yourself holding a piece of paper that says, “My name is Scumpup and I ride me leetle bicicleta and sell tacos and burritos”.  
C’mon. I’ll treat you right man. Just do it. C’mon. Name your fee.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2019, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ditka-shodan-octopus-and-bigt/843522/125 "2019-11-18T05:58:28Z")

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> Ill pay you to post a pic of yourself holding a piece of paper that says, “My name is Scumpup and I ride me leetle bicicleta and sell tacos and burritos”.  
> C’mon. I’ll treat you right man. Just do it. C’mon. Name your fee.

That’s an odd request man. But who am I to judge?

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2019, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ditka-shodan-octopus-and-bigt/843522/126 "2019-11-18T06:16:06Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> That’s an odd request man. But who am I to judge?

That’s the right attitude to have.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2019, 10:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ditka-shodan-octopus-and-bigt/843522/127 "2019-11-18T10:03:31Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> Says the woman who spends so much of her day passing judgment on others because they believe different things that she does. If only you could understand that those who engage in group bullying are both cowardly and weak. Hold the mirror up to yourself first.

I’d ask what you’re talking about, but I suspect you don’t even know. None of what you’ve said seems to apply to anything I, **Sunny Daze** , or **kaylasdad99** has done.

_You_ do seem to be trying to bully people, but failing because you don’t make sense.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2019, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ditka-shodan-octopus-and-bigt/843522/128 "2019-11-18T10:11:29Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> I don’t go around slamming people for hardships in their lives, as if casual cruelty was some kind of wild “gotcha”. I’m comfortable judging that you’re an asshole. Fuck off.

I’m convinced that people who are casually cruel have to have it worse. I mean, I still have people who love and care about me.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2019, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ditka-shodan-octopus-and-bigt/843522/129 "2019-11-18T11:42:54Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Nasty thing.

Throwing your hat into the ring in case the Repubs need a presidential candidate?

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2019, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ditka-shodan-octopus-and-bigt/843522/130 "2019-11-18T13:38:31Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> That’s an odd request man. But who am I to judge?

You are **octopus** , and you judge people all the fricken’ time.

Glad I could help.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2019, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ditka-shodan-octopus-and-bigt/843522/131 "2019-11-18T14:17:32Z")

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> [@Scumpup](#):
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> You are such an utterly ridiculous little person. Your mod status is all that keeps you from being a complete nonentity. You still have my permission to share with the board the PMs I sent you that made you cry.

Wow, look guys, I was totally wrong aboujt this fuck, he’s actually a contributing member of the board!

No, wait. He’s a fucking troll and a degenerate piece of crap. Why is he still here??? How is it improving our message board to have hi m Here? How is this post, and the overall tone of his posts combined, not EXACTLY the sort of thing that the Don’t Be A Jerk rule is meant to address??

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2019, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ditka-shodan-octopus-and-bigt/843522/132 "2019-11-18T14:20:25Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> I’m not your token liberal so that you can seem nonpartisan.
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> The whole point of my post was that the idea of being “shouted down” on a message board is a silly idea. As long as people don’t engage in a full on harassment campaign (which none of those listed have experienced here, as far as I know), it is merely our choice to post or not.
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> Mere speech cannot silence anyone. And this board is moderated in such a way that mere speech is all that occurs (unless you break the rules and the mods have to intervene).
> 
> Praising us in this way is an insult to us and the people who have responded to us in the past.

It can be unpleasant to be a conservative in a liberal echo chamber. Heck it’s not easy being a moderate liberal in a liberal echo chamber these days.

I don’t know why they put up with it. Their lives would be more enjoyable if they just abandoned this place and just checked in from time to time. It’s not like there’s a lot of ignorance fighting going on here anymore.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2019, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ditka-shodan-octopus-and-bigt/843522/133 "2019-11-18T14:42:28Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> It can be unpleasant to be a conservative in a liberal echo chamber. Heck it’s not easy being a moderate liberal in a liberal echo chamber these days.
> 
> I don’t know why they put up with it. Their lives would be more enjoyable if they just abandoned this place and just checked in from time to time. It’s not like there’s a lot of ignorance fighting going on here anymore.

Nonsense. This is not a liberal echo chamber. This is a forum for intelligent debate.

And that’s what a lot of right wingers have a problem with; their arguments can’t handle intelligent rebuttal. They come in here and say something stupid (“Donald Trump is the greatest president ever.”) and other people point out the flaws in their argument and present the evidence to support their positions. Then the right wingers start crying and calling us a bunch of mean poopyheads.

Hurricane Ditka, octopus, and scumpup are all prime examples of this.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2019, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ditka-shodan-octopus-and-bigt/843522/134 "2019-11-18T14:52:53Z")

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We are a bunch of mean poopyheads. We are just a bunch of _smart_ mean poopyheads! No fair!

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2019, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ditka-shodan-octopus-and-bigt/843522/135 "2019-11-18T15:23:27Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> Wow, look guys, I was totally wrong aboujt this fuck, he’s actually a contributing member of the board!
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> No, wait. He’s a fucking troll and a degenerate piece of crap. Why is he still here??? How is it improving our message board to have hi m Here? How is this post, and the overall tone of his posts combined, not EXACTLY the sort of thing that the Don’t Be A Jerk rule is meant to address??

First you need to calm down. You are getting too worked up and we wouldn’t want you to have a stroke.

Two stirring up drama like your emotional self is doing is for realz trolling.

Finally, this don’t be a jerk thing was addressed explicitly by Ed in a thread about dearly flounced Morgenstern. Use some Google fu and search it out.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2019, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ditka-shodan-octopus-and-bigt/843522/136 "2019-11-18T15:43:47Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> Why is he still here???

Because he very much doesn’t care, and scorns people who do, but at the same time he does need an audience watching him \*ultra \*not caring. Which is also why he can’t be satisfied with just being any old asshole, he has to be a _special kind_ of asshole.

Narcissism is one hell of a drug. Just not the kind that makes you happy, carefree and fun to be around.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2019, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ditka-shodan-octopus-and-bigt/843522/137 "2019-11-18T16:06:44Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> First you need to calm down. You are getting too worked up and we wouldn’t want you to have a stroke.
> 
> Two stirring up drama like your emotional self is doing is for realz trolling.
> 
> Finally, this don’t be a jerk thing was addressed explicitly by Ed in a thread about dearly flounced Morgenstern. Use some Google fu and search it out.

Fuck off. Putz.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2019, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ditka-shodan-octopus-and-bigt/843522/138 "2019-11-18T16:35:33Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Fuck off. Putz.

White knighting on the Internet still won’t contribute to a change in your incel status. Not even if you combined it with a “m’lady” and a tip of your sweaty fedora.

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2019, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ditka-shodan-octopus-and-bigt/843522/139 "2019-11-18T17:11:56Z")

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You know, when you get to the “fuck off” stage as all you can think of to say, you give an appearance of sputtering, impotent, angry incoherence. I try to disengage before I reach that stage, not always successfully I admit. You do what suits you best. I’m sure it sounded better in your head when you painstakingly composed it.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2019, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ditka-shodan-octopus-and-bigt/843522/140 "2019-11-18T17:25:45Z")

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> [@Scumpup](#):
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> A long time ago, one of my teachers asked me whether I would rather insist on doing it my way and failing or would I consider doing in another way and getting the result I desired. She was pretty fucking smart.

Uhm… that was just a clever way of calling you stupid.

On the other hand: she sugar-coated an insult so well that you were still gaslighted what, 40, 50 years later? Yeah, she’s pretty good.

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