# Hurricane Ian: A Major Threat To Florida and Elsewhere {2022-09-25}

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Tags:** breaking-news\
**Created:** [September 25, 2022, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ian-a-major-threat-to-florida-and-elsewhere-2022-09-25/972213 "2022-09-25T16:45:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2022, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ian-a-major-threat-to-florida-and-elsewhere-2022-09-25/972213/61 "2022-09-28T16:25:40Z")

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And all of Port Charlotte is now considered to be Storm Surge Warning, not really a surprise, but I was hoping for better.

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THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HAS ISSUED **TORNADO**  **WATCH** UNTIL 5 PM EDT THIS AFTERNOON

IN FLORIDA 4 COUNTIES  
DESOTO, HIGHLANDS, **CHARLOTTE** & LEE

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[Latest Hurricane Warning from NWS](https://alerts.weather.gov/cap/wwacapget.php?x=FL12640D3D7420.HurricaneLocalStatement.12640D4A481CFL.KEYHLSKEY.d9ed7063537b4589b0a05a2f58d3c0fd)

> **STORM SURGE**  
> Peak Storm Surge Inundation: **The potential for 12-18 feet** above ground somewhere within surge prone areas. Window of concern: through Friday evening
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> UNCERTAINTY IN TRACK, SIZE AND INTENSITY: Potential for storm  
> surge flooding greater than 9 feet above ground
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> - The storm surge threat has remained nearly steady from the  
> previous assessment.
> - PLAN: Shelter against extreme life-threatening storm surge  
> flooding greater than 9 feet above ground.
> - PREPARE: All ordered evacuations should be complete.  
> Evacuees should be in shelters well away from storm surge  
> flooding.
> - ACT: Remain sheltered in a safe location. Do not venture  
> outside. Move to upper floors to escape rising water if  
> necessary.

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**Post date:** [September 28, 2022, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ian-a-major-threat-to-florida-and-elsewhere-2022-09-25/972213/62 "2022-09-28T19:38:55Z")

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It appears Ian has made landfall at Cayo Costa, at the mouth of Charlotte Harbor. I don’t know if this means this will be the worst of the surge or not.  
Very scary stuff. At least it should move past my In-Laws within 2 hours or so.

Fuck.

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**\> It’s the strongest hurricane on record to make landfall on the west coast of the Florida peninsula.**

From here:

> **[September 28, 2022 Hurricane Ian updates](https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/hurricane-ian-florida-updates-09-28-22/index.html)**
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> Hurricane Ian, a powerful Category 4 storm, has made landfall in Southwest Florida. Follow here for the latest.

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**Author:** ![chela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chela/32/21582_2.png) [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2022, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ian-a-major-threat-to-florida-and-elsewhere-2022-09-25/972213/63 "2022-09-28T20:53:24Z")

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My old neighborhood in S Broward experienced some tornadoes today, flipping small planes and bringing down trees.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2022, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ian-a-major-threat-to-florida-and-elsewhere-2022-09-25/972213/64 "2022-09-28T22:52:47Z")

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> [@chela](#):
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> flipping small planes

THAT’s gonna be $$$$

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ian-a-major-threat-to-florida-and-elsewhere-2022-09-25/972213/65 "2022-09-29T03:15:52Z")

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> [@chela](#):
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> My old neighborhood in S Broward experienced some tornadoes today, flipping small planes and bringing down trees.

It’s amazing on how many people don’t know how to properly tie a plane down.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ian-a-major-threat-to-florida-and-elsewhere-2022-09-25/972213/66 "2022-09-29T03:39:08Z")

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It looks like the storm weakened rapidly when it came ashore but the massive amount of water it’s pulling in is going to cause a lot of damage. I’m watching Orlando and it seems to be holding up. Looks like 40-50 knot winds going forward at this point.

If I read this correctly there are over [2 million people](https://poweroutage.us/area/state/florida) without power. 2,079,702

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ian-a-major-threat-to-florida-and-elsewhere-2022-09-25/972213/67 "2022-09-29T13:59:41Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> > [@chela](#):
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> > My old neighborhood in S Broward experienced some tornadoes today, flipping small planes and bringing down trees.
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> It’s amazing on how many people don’t know how to properly tie a plane down.

See

> **[South Florida Airport Ravaged by Hurricane Ian. An Accounting of the Damage](https://www.flyingmag.com/south-florida-airport-ravaged-the-first-to-feel-hurricane-ians-impact/)**
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> Hurricane Ian’s devastating impact on Florida and aviation has become apparent. The storm’s wrath was felt well outside its eyewall, as evidenced by the rash of severe weather—including at least one tornado—that ravaged part of Southeast Florida...

It’s also amazing how many people don’t understand that there can be wind situations severe enough to break tiedowns or break wings that are tied down.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ian-a-major-threat-to-florida-and-elsewhere-2022-09-25/972213/68 "2022-09-29T14:06:54Z")

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My workday on Wed was pretty nominal. Drove down to MIA in light traffic and occasional light rain.

We took off in a direction rarely used to better align with the strong but not crazy winds using our best turbulence / gusty defensive procedures. Which proved a non-event. The flight up to DCA took one of our usual routes, about 50-100 miles offshore. Saw some thunderstorms on radar but it was mostly smooth.

The return flight was more turbulent on about the same route, and we hunted a bunch for the smoothest altitude as we flew through the outlet flow of Ian. Still, the seatbelt sign was on for about 10 minutes of the 90-ish minute cruise. By 1030pm when we got to MIA it was still gusty and the winds had shifted to coming from the south-southwest which is about the worst-case alignment for MIA’s runways. No big deal though. Drove home on dry roads.

Of course the west coast and now Orlando and JJAX are a mess today.

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ian-a-major-threat-to-florida-and-elsewhere-2022-09-25/972213/69 "2022-09-29T14:28:37Z")

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I have a brother who lives in FL – east of Tampa (well inland). About 10" of rain, and some strong winds. Some branches and a small tree damaged in the neighborhood. Lost power a few times but never longer than 10 minutes. Plenty of clean-up but not too bad otherwise.

Brian

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ian-a-major-threat-to-florida-and-elsewhere-2022-09-25/972213/70 "2022-09-29T14:48:00Z")

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It seems the worst is over for us, and it was mostly wind. I’m still worried about my family in Palatka though. They live directly on the St. John’s.

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ian-a-major-threat-to-florida-and-elsewhere-2022-09-25/972213/71 "2022-09-29T16:53:10Z")

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My In-Laws and their dogs came through OK, but it is possible the house took a lot of damage. Hard to tell by a relay of messages we got. Eventually I’ll talk to my FIL about it.

Also don’t know about the cars, but it sounds like they somehow avoided a surge that would flood the vehicles.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ian-a-major-threat-to-florida-and-elsewhere-2022-09-25/972213/72 "2022-09-29T17:54:00Z")

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The Lee County Sheriff said the death toll could be in the hundreds. He later walked it back saying nothing was verified. Apparently he was predicting from 911 calls that came in that they couldn’t respond to.

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ian-a-major-threat-to-florida-and-elsewhere-2022-09-25/972213/73 "2022-09-29T18:18:29Z")

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Sections of the causeway connecting Sanibel/Captiva to the mainland were knocked out and will have to be rebuilt. Tons of resorts, homes, stores, restaurants cut off. Not sure what percentage of their supply chain relies on the causeway and how much is/can be ferried over. Their economy is destroyed until they can get the bridge back up.

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ian-a-major-threat-to-florida-and-elsewhere-2022-09-25/972213/74 "2022-09-29T18:24:12Z")

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A little ray of sunshine in the midst of disaster.

[https://twitter.com/TheTweetOfGod/status/1575539131135860737?cxt=HHwWgoClkcCfuN0rAAAA](https://twitter.com/TheTweetOfGod/status/1575539131135860737?cxt=HHwWgoClkcCfuN0rAAAA)

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ian-a-major-threat-to-florida-and-elsewhere-2022-09-25/972213/75 "2022-09-29T19:29:19Z")

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Tampa has dodged the bullet once again… Ft . Myers got hammered tho… hope you’re okay, **Hypno-Toad!**

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ian-a-major-threat-to-florida-and-elsewhere-2022-09-25/972213/76 "2022-09-29T23:50:07Z")

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> [@Dung\_Beetle](#):
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> _It seems the worst is over for us, and it was mostly wind. I’m still worried about my family in Palatka though. They live directly on the St. John’s._

Hope your family made it through OK. My older brother lives in Crescent City (same county) and his house is on the shores of a lake. He reports the lake didn’t rise to an alarming degree and he had no wind damage. In the last hurricane that went through Putnam County a tree fell on his house.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ian-a-major-threat-to-florida-and-elsewhere-2022-09-25/972213/77 "2022-09-30T00:20:17Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> It’s also amazing how many people don’t understand that there can be wind situations severe enough to break tiedowns or break wings that are tied down.

Of course there are winds that exceed the structural limits of the attaching points. But the picture posted shows mangled planes in front of a row of planes that weren’t tossed.

I’ve been going to Oshkosh for 30 years complete with tornadoes. It is amazing how many people don’t tie their planes down properly.

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**Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ian-a-major-threat-to-florida-and-elsewhere-2022-09-25/972213/78 "2022-09-30T00:20:49Z")

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I just saw a news report that the town of Ft. Myers Beach was 90% destroyed. I was just there in June.

Anyone down there, stay safe.

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**Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ian-a-major-threat-to-florida-and-elsewhere-2022-09-25/972213/79 "2022-09-30T01:21:23Z")

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The short distance between Port Charlotte and Fort Myers made all the difference. My fiancée’s family seems to have come through it relatively unscathed. The storm surge that crushed Fort Myers was much less on the other side of the bay.

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**Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-ian-a-major-threat-to-florida-and-elsewhere-2022-09-25/972213/80 "2022-09-30T02:08:01Z")

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I wonder if there’s any plan to harden the power grid now that they have to rebuild a lot of it? And how do the green power sources fare against the old fossil fuel power plants?

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