# Hurricane Patricia may be one of the strongest ever. SW Mexico threatened **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 23, 2015, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-patricia-may-be-one-of-the-strongest-ever-sw-mexico-threatened/735537 "2015-10-23T13:39:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-patricia-may-be-one-of-the-strongest-ever-sw-mexico-threatened/735537/41 "2015-10-23T20:57:22Z")
> [@WF\_Tomba](#): > > Here is a webcam on the beach at La Manzanilla: > > [http://www.lamanzanilla.info/web\_cam.html](http://www.lamanzanilla.info/web_cam.html) Any bets on how long that’s going to stay active?:eek: ---
**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-patricia-may-be-one-of-the-strongest-ever-sw-mexico-threatened/735537/42 "2015-10-23T20:59:40Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > Any bets on how long that’s going to stay active?:eek: Hopefully long enough for me to get home and start it again. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-patricia-may-be-one-of-the-strongest-ever-sw-mexico-threatened/735537/43 "2015-10-23T21:10:53Z")
How far up the coast will the effects be felt, even if only in being a little bit windier than usual? San Diego? Los Angeles? Anchorage? ---
**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-patricia-may-be-one-of-the-strongest-ever-sw-mexico-threatened/735537/44 "2015-10-23T21:47:53Z")
> [@Sicks\_Ate](#): > > Hopefully long enough for me to get home and start it again. Well, a guy just wiped rain off the screen. Thanks guy! ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-patricia-may-be-one-of-the-strongest-ever-sw-mexico-threatened/735537/45 "2015-10-23T21:51:36Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > How far up the coast will the effects be felt, even if only in being a little bit windier than usual? San Diego? Los Angeles? Anchorage? Send some rain LA’s way… ---
**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-patricia-may-be-one-of-the-strongest-ever-sw-mexico-threatened/735537/46 "2015-10-23T22:02:19Z")
Some poor or crazy bastard just went trudging down the beach at the water line. ---
**Author:** ![Greg\_Charles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/839c29/32.png) [@Greg\_Charles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greg_Charles)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-patricia-may-be-one-of-the-strongest-ever-sw-mexico-threatened/735537/47 "2015-10-23T22:15:10Z")
The wind has kicked up to where it’s tearing branches off the tree in the cam’s view. Someone’s still there, because the camera fell and a hand propped it back up and wiped the screen off again. God help him. ---
**Author:** ![Frazzled](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frazzled/32/3368_2.png) [@Frazzled](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frazzled)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-patricia-may-be-one-of-the-strongest-ever-sw-mexico-threatened/735537/48 "2015-10-23T22:15:25Z")
There’s somebody right there - I watched as the camera blew over - was down for about a minute when somebody picked it up and put it back where it was. That storm is vicious looking! And the worst is still to come! I can’t imagine what those guys at the beach are thinking while being there ---
**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-patricia-may-be-one-of-the-strongest-ever-sw-mexico-threatened/735537/49 "2015-10-23T22:19:54Z")
Anybody else’s feed freeze, or just me. ---
**Author:** ![Bam\_Boo\_Gut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8c91f0/32.png) [@Bam\_Boo\_Gut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bam_Boo_Gut)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-patricia-may-be-one-of-the-strongest-ever-sw-mexico-threatened/735537/50 "2015-10-23T22:20:16Z")
Oh dear, not getting that webcam up. ---
**Author:** ![Frazzled](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frazzled/32/3368_2.png) [@Frazzled](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frazzled)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-patricia-may-be-one-of-the-strongest-ever-sw-mexico-threatened/735537/51 "2015-10-23T22:22:36Z")
> [@Sicks\_Ate](#): > > Anybody else’s feed freeze, or just me. me too ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-patricia-may-be-one-of-the-strongest-ever-sw-mexico-threatened/735537/52 "2015-10-23T22:23:55Z")
> [@Sicks\_Ate](#): > > Anybody else’s feed freeze, or just me. I got nothin’. Just the frozen logo. It was working about an hour ago. ---
**Author:** ![Frazzled](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frazzled/32/3368_2.png) [@Frazzled](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frazzled)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-patricia-may-be-one-of-the-strongest-ever-sw-mexico-threatened/735537/53 "2015-10-23T22:26:07Z")
Given the strength of the winds at the end I’d not be at all surprised if they just lost power in that area. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-patricia-may-be-one-of-the-strongest-ever-sw-mexico-threatened/735537/54 "2015-10-23T22:26:11Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > Ron White: It’s not THAT the wind is blowing, it’s WHAT the wind is blowing. Six pack abs won’t stop a rebar. I would venture to guess that amongst the things that the wind picks up at 200mph+, some of those things will be people. ---
**Author:** ![Greg\_Charles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/839c29/32.png) [@Greg\_Charles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greg_Charles)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-patricia-may-be-one-of-the-strongest-ever-sw-mexico-threatened/735537/55 "2015-10-23T22:32:37Z")
It was out for a few minutes, then came back, and now seems to be frozen again. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-patricia-may-be-one-of-the-strongest-ever-sw-mexico-threatened/735537/56 "2015-10-23T22:34:18Z")
Did you see [this photo](https://twitter.com/StationCDRKelly/status/657641917136637953/photo/1) from the ISS of the storm? ---
**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-patricia-may-be-one-of-the-strongest-ever-sw-mexico-threatened/735537/57 "2015-10-23T22:35:10Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > Any references to suggest the type/extent of damage possible/likely? I’m not familiar with the topography - I assume it is not like NO which is essentially below sea-level, or South Padre/Brownsville. Just wondering how big of a storm surge might be expected, and how far inland it might travel. What are the buildings down there - how much damage would a hotel take, as opposed to locals’ residences? Are population centers situated where mudslides will be catastrophic. > > I guess we’ll find out soon enough. When ever I think living in the upper Midwest is boring, this kinda thing makes me think boring ain’t all that bad! Below is the very prophetic message from the National Weather Service before Katrina hit. You don’t generally see government agencies be so blunt in their announcements but they were correct and a whole lot of people still didn’t flee. This storm is more powerful than Katrina. We are also talking about Mexico versus the U.S. I know the disaster response to Katrina was awful by almost any standard but much of Mexico has decidedly 3rd World infrastructure and government on a clear day. New Orleans got the press because the levees broke after Katrina had already passed by neighboring Southern Mississippi got destroyed but its acute effects just as well. Here is an idea of what they are up against except worse. I hope Mexico had sense enough to start getting people out in the short time window that had: "HURRICANE KATRINA…A MOST POWERFUL HURRICANE WITH UNPRECEDENTED STRENGTH…RIVALING THE INTENSITY OF HURRICANE CAMILLE OF 1969. MOST OF THE AREA WILL BE UNINHABITABLE FOR WEEKS…PERHAPS LONGER. AT LEAST ONE HALF OF WELL CONSTRUCTED HOMES WILL HAVE ROOF AND WALL FAILURE. ALL GABLED ROOFS WILL FAIL…LEAVING THOSE HOMES SEVERELY DAMAGED OR DESTROYED. THE MAJORITY OF INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS WILL BECOME NON FUNCTIONAL. PARTIAL TO COMPLETE WALL AND ROOF FAILURE IS EXPECTED. ALL WOOD FRAMED LOW RISING APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL BE DESTROYED. CONCRETE BLOCK LOW RISE APARTMENTS WILL SUSTAIN MAJOR DAMAGE…INCLUDING SOME WALL AND ROOF FAILURE. HIGH RISE OFFICE AND APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL SWAY DANGEROUSLY…A FEW TO THE POINT OF TOTAL COLLAPSE. ALL WINDOWS WILL BLOW OUT. AIRBORNE DEBRIS WILL BE WIDESPREAD…AND MAY INCLUDE HEAVY ITEMS SUCH AS HOUSEHOLD APPLIANCES AND EVEN LIGHT VEHICLES. SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES AND LIGHT TRUCKS WILL BE MOVED. THE BLOWN DEBRIS WILL CREATE ADDITIONAL DESTRUCTION. PERSONS…PETS…AND LIVESTOCK EXPOSED TO THE WINDS WILL FACE CERTAIN DEATH IF STRUCK. POWER OUTAGES WILL LAST FOR WEEKS…AS MOST POWER POLES WILL BE DOWN AND TRANSFORMERS DESTROYED. WATER SHORTAGES WILL MAKE HUMAN SUFFERING INCREDIBLE BY MODERN STANDARDS. THE VAST MAJORITY OF NATIVE TREES WILL BE SNAPPED OR UPROOTED. ONLY THE HEARTIEST WILL REMAIN STANDING…BUT BE TOTALLY DEFOLIATED. FEW CROPS WILL REMAIN. LIVESTOCK LEFT EXPOSED TO THE WINDS WILL BE KILLED. AN INLAND HURRICANE WIND WARNING IS ISSUED WHEN SUSTAINED WINDS NEAR HURRICANE FORCE…OR FREQUENT GUSTS AT OR ABOVE HURRICANE FORCE…ARE CERTAIN WITHIN THE NEXT 12 TO 24 HOURS. ONCE TROPICAL STORM AND HURRICANE FORCE WINDS ONSET…DO NOT VENTURE OUTSIDE!" [http://www.alabamawx.com/?p=33310](http://www.alabamawx.com/?p=33310) ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-patricia-may-be-one-of-the-strongest-ever-sw-mexico-threatened/735537/58 "2015-10-23T22:59:32Z")
Goggle has their Public Alert service with Hurricane Patricia added: > **[Public Alerts Help](https://support.google.com/publicalerts/)** > > Official Public Alerts Help Center where you can find tips and tutorials on using Public Alerts and other answers to frequently asked questions. Direct link to interactive map, Patricia is just hitting Manzanillo with 201 MPH winds. > **[FAQ: Google Crisis Map - Google Maps Help](https://support.google.com/maps/answer/10394155)** > > Important: As of April 2021, Google Crisis Map is no longer available. > Google’s Crisis Response program offers several different products and features that help people find timely, autho It will hit the city of Tequila on the north as a still a level 3 hurricane. By early morning on Sunday it will reach Texas as very heavy Tropical Storm, the problem in Texas is that they are already suffering from mayor flooding incidents. ---
**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-patricia-may-be-one-of-the-strongest-ever-sw-mexico-threatened/735537/59 "2015-10-23T23:12:36Z")
Hope that guy’s ok…but those didn’t look like very sturdy structures to me, and the waves were licking at the porch. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-patricia-may-be-one-of-the-strongest-ever-sw-mexico-threatened/735537/60 "2015-10-23T23:25:15Z")
Can you even survive inside a sturdy building in those kind of winds? Seems to me as though all the air would get sucked out and you would suffocate. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-patricia-may-be-one-of-the-strongest-ever-sw-mexico-threatened/735537.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-patricia-may-be-one-of-the-strongest-ever-sw-mexico-threatened/735537.md?page=4)