# Hurricane Sandy: Potential Catastrophic NorEaster Brewing in the Carribean \[edited title\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-sandy-potential-catastrophic-noreaster-brewing-in-the-carribean-edited-title/638766>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [October 24, 2012, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-sandy-potential-catastrophic-noreaster-brewing-in-the-carribean-edited-title/638766 "2012-10-24T22:11:11Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2012, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-sandy-potential-catastrophic-noreaster-brewing-in-the-carribean-edited-title/638766/81 "2012-10-28T15:28:51Z")

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> [@Baker](#):
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> You know, if for any reason Sandy turns out to be not as bad as expected there will be plenty of folks complaining how the weather forecasters were crying “Wolf!” without needing to. They’d be the same ones to complain if they DIDN’T get dire warnings and were blown out to sea.
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> To coin a cliche “Better to be safe than sorry.”

If it does cause a lot more damage than predicted, we should probably put the forecasters in jail.

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**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2012, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-sandy-potential-catastrophic-noreaster-brewing-in-the-carribean-edited-title/638766/82 "2012-10-28T15:30:52Z")

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You know what, I’ve never known ANYone actually in any kind of natural disaster to seriously complain later. Sure, they might whistle the wolf away, so to speak, but no. Nobody seriously complains.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2012, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-sandy-potential-catastrophic-noreaster-brewing-in-the-carribean-edited-title/638766/83 "2012-10-28T15:35:49Z")

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> [@Taomist](#):
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> You know what, I’ve never known ANYone actually in any kind of natural disaster to seriously complain later. Sure, they might whistle the wolf away, so to speak, but no. Nobody seriously complains.

I had a Facebook friend post “watch it will probably be 80 and sunny.” When I explained about the different models and tracks and how that was not going to happen. She came back with “I don’t trust the news they are always wrong.” Don’t overestimate people.

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**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2012, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-sandy-potential-catastrophic-noreaster-brewing-in-the-carribean-edited-title/638766/84 "2012-10-28T15:37:30Z")

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Wolf whistling, I promise. After a storm wherein precautions were taken and not needed, nobody complains that they didn’t lose their house.

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**Author:** ![Animastryfe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8797f3/32.png) [@Animastryfe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Animastryfe)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2012, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-sandy-potential-catastrophic-noreaster-brewing-in-the-carribean-edited-title/638766/85 "2012-10-28T19:16:40Z")

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My university has canceled classes for tomorrow. Unfortunately, my midterms are on Wednesday and Thursday.

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2012, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-sandy-potential-catastrophic-noreaster-brewing-in-the-carribean-edited-title/638766/86 "2012-10-28T19:18:47Z")

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> [@Enkel](#):
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> Interactive “live” tracking site on [weather.com](http://weather.com) [http://www.weather.com/weather/hurricanecentral/tracker/2012/sandy](http://www.weather.com/weather/hurricanecentral/tracker/2012/sandy)

There’s this one too.

> **[New Radar Landing Page](https://www.weather.gov/idp/ridge2landing)**

Current News88 Prediction: North of AC, South of Toms River.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2012, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-sandy-potential-catastrophic-noreaster-brewing-in-the-carribean-edited-title/638766/87 "2012-10-28T21:15:56Z")

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They finally made the call. My unit has been activated. Going in tonight. My unit is more to the north so I doubt we will be by the shore. Probably flood duty elsewhere. Or sitting on our asses like during Irene. You never know. We are just assets for state OEM to move around.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2012, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-sandy-potential-catastrophic-noreaster-brewing-in-the-carribean-edited-title/638766/88 "2012-10-28T21:24:43Z")

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Local NJ news (News12) just put out a prediction saying land fall at Barnegat.

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**Author:** ![BetsQ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/fbc32d/32.png) [@BetsQ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BetsQ)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2012, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-sandy-potential-catastrophic-noreaster-brewing-in-the-carribean-edited-title/638766/89 "2012-10-28T21:40:45Z")

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In in the MD suburbs of DC. School has been cancelled for Monday and Tuesday. Child care, also. Guess I’m planning to “work” at home tomorrow. You know, without power. Good times.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2012, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-sandy-potential-catastrophic-noreaster-brewing-in-the-carribean-edited-title/638766/90 "2012-10-28T21:58:17Z")

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> [@Schrodinger\_s\_Platypus](#):
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> I’m in Philadelphia, a city not known for its speedy and prepared infrastructure. Luckily, my house is well away from the rivers and not likely to flood, and I’m stocked well with candles. Probably not getting to work Monday or Tuesday, because I can see SEPTA imploding, school closing, or both as likely options. Power wise… Well, if PECO is as diligent at restoring services as they were at pursuing my deadbeat ex roommate, maybe we’ll have it back in a week.
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> And this time no overnight hurricane sewing party like we did for Irene. (when you take two cosplayers to a hurricane five days before the con or:" Tornado watch! Get the sewing machine and costumes in the basement!")

> [@Loach](#):
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> Local NJ news (News12) just put out a prediction saying land fall at Barnegat.

New Brunswick, NJ here. Looks like it’s coming straight this way. Thankfully we live well off shore so don’t have to worry about coastal flooding so much. We do live right on the Raritan River, though, so we’ll see how that goes.

I work in Philadelphia (in an area of high flooding, actually.). They closed SEPTA and all Philly public schools, it’s like the whole Mid-Atlantic is shutting down. Even Penn closed, which is freakin’ unheard of. My drive to Philly is an hour and a half on a good day. I am so thanking my lucky stars that my work closes when Philly schools close. Couldn’t be a more inconvenient time, but ah well, whatayagonnado? I certainly don’t want to drive in that crap.

Happy for the extended weekend. We have food, and best of all, we have neighbors who are dear friends. The second we lose power it’s Hurricane Party time.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Knig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@Typo\_Knig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Knig)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2012, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-sandy-potential-catastrophic-noreaster-brewing-in-the-carribean-edited-title/638766/91 "2012-10-28T21:58:24Z")

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Springfield, VA checking in. It started raining here in Springfield, VA at 4:25 - just as we were finishing raking our back yard. It was cloudy all day, but mild temperatures. The gas station nearest me was out of everything except premium today. They were fine last night when we topped off **Mama Zappa** ’s car. I was able to get regular gas from a station a mile or two away from my house, on a more major road. The grocery store was out of water yesterday, and still out today.

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**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2012, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-sandy-potential-catastrophic-noreaster-brewing-in-the-carribean-edited-title/638766/92 "2012-10-28T22:03:29Z")

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They closed schools here in Howard County, MD. Monday, too. Come on - nothing even gets here until Mon night. Why close the schools tomorrow morning?

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**Author:** ![Schrodinger\_s\_Platypus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Schrodinger\_s\_Platypus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Schrodinger_s_Platypus)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2012, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-sandy-potential-catastrophic-noreaster-brewing-in-the-carribean-edited-title/638766/93 "2012-10-28T22:12:08Z")

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> [@olivesmarch4th](#):
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> I work in Philadelphia (in an area of high flooding, actually.). They closed SEPTA and all Philly public schools, it’s like the whole Mid-Atlantic is shutting down.

Well, damn. There goes my chance of getting to work. They said they’d stay open till evacuations are ordered, but I doubt they’ll have any teachers or students.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2012, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-sandy-potential-catastrophic-noreaster-brewing-in-the-carribean-edited-title/638766/94 "2012-10-28T22:39:36Z")

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> [@Terr](#):
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> They closed schools here in Howard County, MD. Monday, too. Come on - nothing even gets here until Mon night. Why close the schools tomorrow morning?

I don’t know about where you are, but up here near Philly, they’re saying that from 8 a.m. tomorrow onward, the sustained wind speed will \*start \*at 39 m.p.h. and will keep increasing through noon Tuesday. They expect gusts to reach between 60 and 80 m.p.h for about 36 hours. They expect 4-10" of rain, depending on where you are.

This is not weather people should be out and about in.

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2012, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-sandy-potential-catastrophic-noreaster-brewing-in-the-carribean-edited-title/638766/95 "2012-10-28T22:41:18Z")

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> [@Ethilrist](#):
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> Well, whoever came up with that term obviously didn’t pay much attention to satellite photos.

mr franklin did what he could with kites. he was the one who came up with the nor’east’r moniker. he and his buds slowly (via post) tracked a bad storm that traveled north east up the coast.

getting a bit of rain and wind in phila. the storm is 500+ miles away.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2012, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-sandy-potential-catastrophic-noreaster-brewing-in-the-carribean-edited-title/638766/96 "2012-10-28T22:46:55Z")

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> [@olivesmarch4th](#):
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> New Brunswick, NJ here. Looks like it’s coming straight this way. Thankfully we live well off shore so don’t have to worry about coastal flooding so much. We do live right on the Raritan River, though, so we’ll see how that goes.
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> I work in Philadelphia (in an area of high flooding, actually.). They closed SEPTA and all Philly public schools, it’s like the whole Mid-Atlantic is shutting down. Even Penn closed, which is freakin’ unheard of. My drive to Philly is an hour and a half on a good day. I am so thanking my lucky stars that my work closes when Philly schools close. Couldn’t be a more inconvenient time, but ah well, whatayagonnado? I certainly don’t want to drive in that crap.
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> Happy for the extended weekend. We have food, and best of all, we have neighbors who are dear friends. The second we lose power it’s Hurricane Party time.

Just got word Rt 18 south into New Brunswick closed at midnight

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**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2012, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-sandy-potential-catastrophic-noreaster-brewing-in-the-carribean-edited-title/638766/97 "2012-10-28T22:50:05Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> I don’t know about where you are, but up here near Philly, they’re saying that from 8 a.m. tomorrow onward, the sustained wind speed will \*start \*at 39 m.p.h. and will keep increasing through noon Tuesday. They expect gusts to reach between 60 and 80 m.p.h for about 36 hours. They expect 4-10" of rain, depending on where you are.
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> This is not weather people should be out and about in.

Tomorrow at 2pm the hurricane is projected to be about 300 miles away from us: [Google Maps Help](http://crisislanding.appspot.com/crisismap/2012-sandy)

Closing schools because of that for Monday is ridiculous.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2012, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-sandy-potential-catastrophic-noreaster-brewing-in-the-carribean-edited-title/638766/98 "2012-10-28T22:56:16Z")

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> [@Terr](#):
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> Tomorrow at 2pm the hurricane is projected to be about 300 miles away from us: [Google Maps Help](http://crisislanding.appspot.com/crisismap/2012-sandy)
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> Closing schools because of that for Monday is ridiculous.

The storm is about 1,000 miles across. The center may be 300 miles away from you, but you are still being affected by it.

According to this site, [Howard County, MD](http://www.google.org/publicalerts/alert?aid=1d32e2fcb58eb322&hl=en&gl=US&source=web), is facing pretty much the same conditions we will be up here.

> [@](#):
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> **Timing** : sustained winds of 30 to 40 mph are expected by 8 am Monday, then increasing around noontime Monday to 35 to 45 mph with hurricane force wind gusts 60 to 70 mph lasting into early Tuesday morning.
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> **Impacts** : a prolonged and significant 24 hour high wind event will take place across the warning area. Coupled with Heavy rains from Sandy, the high winds will lead to significant tree damage. Residents, visitors. And businesses across the region should plan for widespread power and communication outages.

Are you even paying attention to the predictions for the weather conditions in your area?

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**Author:** ![Hershele\_Ostropoler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e47c2d/32.png) [@Hershele\_Ostropoler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hershele_Ostropoler)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2012, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-sandy-potential-catastrophic-noreaster-brewing-in-the-carribean-edited-title/638766/99 "2012-10-28T22:59:12Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> Irene caused $15 billion in damage.

I’m pretty sure it didn’t in NYC. I’m totally behind people who are actually going to be affected by the hurricane taking precautions. Even evacuating the coastal areas here is justifiable.

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**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2012, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricane-sandy-potential-catastrophic-noreaster-brewing-in-the-carribean-edited-title/638766/100 "2012-10-28T22:59:47Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> Are you even paying attention to the predictions for the weather conditions in your area?

Yes I am. 30 to 40 mph wind is not anything life threatening. A stiff breeze. “Hurricane strength” gusts may be coming on Monday night, but not during the school hours on Monday.

Look, here in Howard county they close the schools as soon as they see one snowflake in the air.

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