# Hurricanes hitting Red States....God's punishment?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricanes-hitting-red-states-gods-punishment/795742>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 7, 2017, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricanes-hitting-red-states-gods-punishment/795742 "2017-09-07T16:38:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricanes-hitting-red-states-gods-punishment/795742/21 "2017-09-07T18:49:34Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> God, you people are so picky.
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> OK, Irma transforms into a micro-hurricane, drops down from on high, flattens Mar-a-lago, and then vanishes.

Don’t we call that a “tornado”?

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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricanes-hitting-red-states-gods-punishment/795742/22 "2017-09-07T19:01:27Z")

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Decades ago, when I lived in Davis, we had a wind event that took out trees in a couple of front yards. The news kept saying - it wasn’t a tornado, it was a [downburst](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downburst). Apparently, if you want to micro-manage Og’s wrath, a downburst is what you should pray for.

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricanes-hitting-red-states-gods-punishment/795742/23 "2017-09-07T19:02:52Z")

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> [@BombVoyage](#):
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> I put this in the pit because it is very mean-spirited.
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> However, Many Red-Staters see God’s hand in many places…do they consider the possibility God is punishing them for Trump?
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> I thought not.

In order for that to be true, one would first have to show proof of the existence of a god of some sort. And in addition, one would have to ignore that facts that we are right at the high point of the 2017 hurricane season, and that we are approaching the peak of the 70 year Atlantic multidecadal oscillation.

Methinks we’re gonna see some rough storms for the next couple of seasons.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricanes-hitting-red-states-gods-punishment/795742/24 "2017-09-07T19:15:22Z")

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> [@Llama\_Llogophile](#):
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> To answer your question seriously - No. There is no divine intervention in storms or anything else.
> 
> I wish we could move away from magical thinking.

> [@Clothahump](#):
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> In order for that to be true, one would first have to show proof of the existence of a god of some sort.

Geeze people. The OP didn’t ask if god were _actually_ punishing red staters, he asked what people who already think god punishes liberals would think.

Trust the SD to have at least one scold in an otherwise fun thread idea.

And, in answer to the OP, no, they’ll never make that connection.

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**Author:** ![Llama\_Llogophile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@Llama\_Llogophile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Llama_Llogophile)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricanes-hitting-red-states-gods-punishment/795742/25 "2017-09-07T19:25:21Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> Geeze people. The OP didn’t ask if god were _actually_ punishing red staters, he asked what people who already think god punishes liberals would think.

That was my suggestion for what we should say to people who think that way. Simply - there’s no such thing. Sorry to be a scold.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricanes-hitting-red-states-gods-punishment/795742/26 "2017-09-07T19:53:39Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> While leaving everything else in the vicinity intact.

That would be cool.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricanes-hitting-red-states-gods-punishment/795742/27 "2017-09-07T20:11:38Z")

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After the Northridge Ca earthquake, some fool had posited that it was punishment for all the pornography. (At that time, 90% \*of the world’s porn came out of Chatsworth. Chatsworth and Northridge are next to each other in the San Fernando Valley)

The porn industry in Chatsworth did not miss a beat. As soon as power was back up, they were back shipping porn and making bucks.

I always wanted to ask that fool a question. “If God was trying to destroy the porn industry, is he incompetent? I mean, it didn’t work. Not even a little bit. But some innocent folks got fucked up.”

\*[sub]in terms of the physical magazines, VHS tapes and DVDs[/sub]

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricanes-hitting-red-states-gods-punishment/795742/28 "2017-09-07T20:15:10Z")

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> [@E-DUB](#):
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> of curse the next hurricane is Jose, so trump won’t let it into the country.

He’s gonna need a really, really, high wall.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricanes-hitting-red-states-gods-punishment/795742/29 "2017-09-07T20:15:25Z")

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Too many of my relatives actually believe this sort of nonsense for me to find it funny. Yes, yes, you prayed really hard and God didn’t destroy _your_ town, he destroyed the next one over. I guess next time they’ll pray better. Your religion sounds _lovely_.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Nylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@Mr.Nylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Nylock)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricanes-hitting-red-states-gods-punishment/795742/30 "2017-09-07T20:19:48Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> Geeze people. The OP didn’t ask if god were _actually_ punishing red staters, he asked what people who already think god punishes liberals would think.
> 
> Trust the SD to have at least one scold in an otherwise fun thread idea.
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> And, in answer to the OP, no, they’ll never make that connection.

Considering that some of the hardest hit areas were the few blue counties in those red states they would;t be inclined to view God as punishing Trump supporters. The OP would need to get out of his or her echo chamber to post effective insults - just like a conservative would.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricanes-hitting-red-states-gods-punishment/795742/31 "2017-09-07T20:40:45Z")

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> [@BombVoyage](#):
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> I put this in the pit because it is very mean-spirited.

Yes, it is.

Not to mention stupid.

I suggest you find glee elsewhere.

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricanes-hitting-red-states-gods-punishment/795742/32 "2017-09-07T20:44:10Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> Geeze people. The OP didn’t ask if god were _actually_ punishing red staters, he asked what people who already think god punishes liberals would think.

Actually, no, that wasn’t what he was asking.

But even if a god existed, why would we think he was punishing us for Trump? Most people were praying FOR Trump as opposed to Hillary.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricanes-hitting-red-states-gods-punishment/795742/33 "2017-09-07T20:50:41Z")

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> [@BombVoyage](#):
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> I put this in the pit because it is very mean-spirited.
> 
> However, Many Red-Staters see God’s hand in many places…do they consider the possibility God is punishing them for Trump?
> 
> I thought not.

Probably not, considering that Houston and Fort Bend County went blue last year, that Orlando, Miami, Tampa and Jacksonville are blue, that 47% of Floridians voted for Hillary, that the southernmost-tip counties of Texas are blue, and that the inland regions such as the panhandle of Florida, which can be more easily evacuated northwards, are red - and that the blue counties in Florida and Texas tend to have higher population.  
… In other words, the slight majority of people affected by the hurricanes are actually Hillary voters, not Trump voters.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricanes-hitting-red-states-gods-punishment/795742/34 "2017-09-07T21:18:29Z")

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> [@BombVoyage](#):
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> Not a believer here…but I brought that up to a very religious relative from Georgia when he made a statement about god punishing Liberals for…well, I forget but was pretty mundane…so I brought up maybe God is punishing Red States for Trump?
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> He was aghast at such a thought and completely dismissed it…but WHY? Are you always perfect that God doesn’t punish you? Isn’t it possible he is? Why dismiss it so readily?
> 
> As Carlin said…it’s all bullshit people and it aint good for you. Even bullshit religion bullshits within the religion to wipe away ‘bad’ thoughts.

I have it on Divine Authority that God metes out severe punishments to people who misuse ellipses. Just sayin’.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricanes-hitting-red-states-gods-punishment/795742/35 "2017-09-07T21:24:57Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> Too many of my relatives actually believe this sort of nonsense for me to find it funny. Yes, yes, you prayed really hard and God didn’t destroy _your_ town, he destroyed the next one over. I guess next time they’ll pray better. Your religion sounds _lovely_.

It just shows your relatives’ god is more powerful than the god of the next town over.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricanes-hitting-red-states-gods-punishment/795742/36 "2017-09-07T21:26:08Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> Yes, it is.
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> Not to mention stupid.

I find it mildly amusing.

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**Author:** ![Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Some_Call_Me.Tim)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricanes-hitting-red-states-gods-punishment/795742/37 "2017-09-07T21:42:09Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> [Buffalo Bills Wide Receiver Blames Dropped Pass on God](http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2010/11/29/buffalo-bills-wide-receiver-blames-dropped-pass-god.html?test=faces)(2010)

Reality follows [The Onion](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk96kI3CNrE).

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricanes-hitting-red-states-gods-punishment/795742/38 "2017-09-07T21:54:29Z")

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[Kirk Cameron weighs in](http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2017/09/07/kirk-cameron-the-hurricanes-were-sent-by-god-to-make-us-more-humble/).

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricanes-hitting-red-states-gods-punishment/795742/39 "2017-09-07T22:04:31Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> Houston and Miami are red?

_Checks thread title._

Houston and Miami are states?

DAMMIT! TURN OFF DEFAULT SIGS!

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurricanes-hitting-red-states-gods-punishment/795742/40 "2017-09-07T22:11:03Z")

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God’s been sending hurricanes to pound the Southeast for centuries, and the red staters just outbreed Him.

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