# Hurt for Biden

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurt-for-biden/843726
**Category:** Politics & Elections
**Created:** [November 20, 2019, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurt-for-biden/843726 "2019-11-20T20:58:14Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)
#### Post date: [November 21, 2019, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurt-for-biden/843726/21 "2019-11-21T04:40:06Z")

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> [@Dr.Colossus](#):
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> When you challenge them about how immoral he is as a person, the response is “well, God spoke through the mouth of an ass, so…”

Wait a minute, I don’t remember that one. Where does it say that?

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### Author: ![Lamoral](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lamoral/32/16078_2.png) [@Lamoral](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamoral)
#### Post date: [November 21, 2019, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurt-for-biden/843726/22 "2019-11-21T04:43:43Z")

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No, this revelation is not going to hurt Biden. Biden doesn’t need any help hurting himself.

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### Author: ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)
#### Post date: [November 21, 2019, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurt-for-biden/843726/23 "2019-11-21T05:23:40Z")

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> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#):
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> Wait a minute, I don’t remember that one. Where does it say that?

> **[Bible Gateway passage: Numbers 22:21-38 - King James Version](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Numbers%2B22%3A21-38&version=KJV)**
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> And Balaam rose up in the morning, and saddled his ass, and went with the princes of Moab. And God's anger was kindled because he went: and the angel of the LORD stood in the way for an adversary against him. Now he was riding upon his ass, and his...

All kinds of surprising things in the Bible.

Though it reads to me more like God was supposed to speak through the mouth of Balaam, and the ass was empowered to speak for herself.

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### Author: ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)
#### Post date: [November 21, 2019, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurt-for-biden/843726/24 "2019-11-21T14:09:10Z")

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> [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](#):
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> Maw, Maw, where’s Grandpa?  
> Gone to the White House Ha, Ha Ha
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> And if you don’t have to google the above, you are a history nut (or maybe just a nut what knows history…)

Nitpick. It’s Ma, Ma, where’s my Pa?

I think it’s a fairly common example that history and political science teachers will bring up when we’re in a presidential election cycle and the media is claiming that it’s the nastiest one ever.

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### Author: ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)
#### Post date: [November 21, 2019, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurt-for-biden/843726/25 "2019-11-21T19:55:26Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> [Numbers 22:21-38 KJV - And Balaam rose up in the morning, and - Bible Gateway](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Numbers+22%3A21-38&version=KJV)
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> All kinds of surprising things in the Bible.
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> Though it reads to me more like God was supposed to speak through the mouth of Balaam, and the ass was empowered to speak for herself.

Thanks for that, I plumb didn’t remember that one, even though it involved more ass-smiting than a bad rap video.

I agree with your interpretation. But someone would have to connect the dots for me to explain how that can be turned into a defense of Trump. Ok, humble/crass people can be tapped as God’s mouthpiece. But if the message is a relentless torrent of (possibly treasonous) lies, that would make him the mouthpiece of the other guy, yanno?

Anyway, I hope Biden Jr. hasn’t hooked up with my ex gf. Hey, Beck, what does your suspect look like?

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### Author: ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)
#### Post date: [November 21, 2019, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurt-for-biden/843726/26 "2019-11-21T20:00:45Z")

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Did Hunter Biden pay off this woman, using money he got from his father?

And was she a porn star?

No?

Then the Republican voters are unlikely to vote for Joe Biden, because this is the sort of thing they seem to like.

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### Author: ![SmellMyWort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SmellMyWort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmellMyWort)
#### Post date: [November 21, 2019, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurt-for-biden/843726/27 "2019-11-21T20:04:37Z")

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Obviously if Hunter Biden just jerked off while prostitutes pissed all over stuff he wouldn’t be in this mess.

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### Author: ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)
#### Post date: [November 21, 2019, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurt-for-biden/843726/28 "2019-11-21T20:05:22Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Biden’s son[fathered a child](https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2019/nov/20/dna-test-shows-hunter-biden-father-arkansas-womans/?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-11-20-19&utm_content=breaking-11-20-19+CID_b76389f462e179ea8063c45bd3313a81&utm_source=Email%20Marketing%20Platform&utm_term=DNA%20test%20shows%20Hunter%20Biden%20is%20father%20of%20Arkansas%20womans%20baby) of an Arkansan to whom he is not married. How many votes will this cost Biden?

That’s the claim. Do you have any interest in finding out whether it is true or not?

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### Author: ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2019, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurt-for-biden/843726/29 "2019-11-22T04:24:17Z")

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> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#):
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> Thanks for that, I plumb didn’t remember that one, even though it involved more ass-smiting than a bad rap video.
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> I agree with your interpretation. But someone would have to connect the dots for me to explain how that can be turned into a defense of Trump. Ok, humble/crass people can be tapped as God’s mouthpiece. But if the message is a relentless torrent of (possibly treasonous) lies, that would make him the mouthpiece of the other guy, yanno?
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> Anyway, I hope Biden Jr. hasn’t hooked up with my ex gf. Hey, Beck, what does your suspect look like?

I was being facetious. I could probably make a good guess how this person looks.

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### Author: ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2019, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurt-for-biden/843726/30 "2019-11-22T05:46:24Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> For some reason I can’t stop hearing it set to “Hot For Teacher”.

I read it as “Hunt for Biden” and desperately clicked on it thinking it was a shitty game like Hunt the Wumpus.

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### Author: ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2019, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurt-for-biden/843726/31 "2019-11-22T06:00:58Z")

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> [@Iggy](#):
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> I suspect that any voters who would care about the child of a candidate fathering an out-of-wedlock child are the sort of voters who wouldn’t be inclined to vote for a Democrat anyway.
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> Barring any revelations about the candidate himself behaving improperly in some way related to his son’s parentage of this child I don’t think this issue moves the needle at all in Biden’s campaign.

How about a candidate who, in addition to being divorced, fathered a child out of wedlock (and never married the mother) shortly afterwards?

I think Bernie Sanders should step aside for other reasons, but that didn’t matter in 2016 and doesn’t this time either.

And remember Bristol Palin, who was 17, unmarried, and pregnant when her mother was on the Veep trail?

In short, it won’t make any difference.

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### Author: ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2019, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurt-for-biden/843726/32 "2019-11-22T06:44:35Z")

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> [@pool](#):
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> Wasn’t he also banging his dead brother’s wife? That gains him big votes in West Virginia!!!

Could be worse. He could be banging his brother’s dead wife.

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### Author: ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2019, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurt-for-biden/843726/33 "2019-11-22T19:46:42Z")

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> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#):
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> if the message is a relentless torrent of (possibly treasonous) lies, that would make him the mouthpiece of the other guy, yanno?

I have more than once been tempted to ask somebody claiming to speak as a mouthpiece for God whether they’re really, really sure that’s God and not a demon who they think is giving them instructions.

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### Author: ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2019, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurt-for-biden/843726/34 "2019-11-22T20:00:24Z")

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> [@Lamoral](#):
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> No, this revelation is not going to hurt Biden. Biden doesn’t need any help hurting himself.

Nope. He really doesn’t.

The Senate trial won’t be about Donald Trump only; it will be just as much about Joe Biden as it will be Donald Trump. The Republicans will push conspiracy theories that will compete for attention with Donald Trump’s quid pro quo and obstruction. The result will be that the public will come away from the experienced confused, frustrated with both parties.

Worse, two or three of the Democratic front runners won’t be able to campaign much in the weeks before the primaries.

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### Author: ![Boudicca90](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boudicca90/32/16818_2.png) [@Boudicca90](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boudicca90)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2019, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurt-for-biden/843726/35 "2019-11-22T21:10:24Z")

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I’m no fan of Biden, but I can’t see how this deals with him at all. It’s his son who’s the douchebag here.

It’s like Jimmy Carter getting blamed for everything Billy did.

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### Author: ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2019, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurt-for-biden/843726/36 "2019-11-22T22:33:39Z")

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> [@Boudicca90](#):
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> I’m no fan of Biden, but I can’t see how this deals with him at all. It’s his son who’s the douchebag here.
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> It’s like Jimmy Carter getting blamed for everything Billy did.

Just wait and see.

I told you so.

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### Author: ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2019, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurt-for-biden/843726/37 "2019-11-22T22:36:29Z")

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Fathers often need to be cautioned not to influence their sons too much, as sons are naturally attuned to a respectful and obedient alignment with the views of their fathers.

And I am the Queen of Romania.

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### Author: ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2019, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurt-for-biden/843726/38 "2019-11-22T23:24:31Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> And I am the Queen of Romania.

“I didn’t think Rome had a queen.”  
“Shut Up, Eric…”

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### Author: ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)
#### Post date: [November 23, 2019, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurt-for-biden/843726/39 "2019-11-23T01:18:04Z")

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> [@Boudicca90](#):
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> I’m no fan of Biden, but I can’t see how this deals with him at all. It’s his son who’s the douchebag here.
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> It’s like Jimmy Carter getting blamed for everything Billy did.

You’ve never met right wingers. They’re the same peopel who chanted ‘lock her up’ at Hillary Clinton for being 1/100th as corrupt and criminal as Donald Trump.

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### Author: ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)
#### Post date: [November 23, 2019, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurt-for-biden/843726/40 "2019-11-23T05:28:17Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> I have more than once been tempted to ask somebody claiming to speak as a mouthpiece for God whether they’re really, really sure that’s God and not a demon who they think is giving them instructions.

Huh. I am not sure I have met anyone even once who claimed to be the mouthpiece of God. Overzealous, haranguing preachers? Sure. But never literally I Speak For God- though I suppose enough people act like it. Ask 'em next time and report back.

Anyway, I will never understand how Trump became the hero of Bible-smiters, and I grew up in red state Jesus land. I do believe they will be able to at once be blind to Trump’s shortcomings while being outraged at Biden’s or whoever’s, but I think that is more a function of being driven half mad about a Liberal Menace that doesn’t even really exist.

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