# "Hurt"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurt/155442>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 16, 2003, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurt/155442 "2003-02-16T14:38:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![jjohnny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@jjohnny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjohnny)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2003, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurt/155442/1 "2003-02-16T14:38:36Z")

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The current rendition of this Nine Inch Nail’s song by Johnny Cash is haunting. I was a fan of “The Man in Black” many years ago, and this song alone has suddenly made me a fan again.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2003, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurt/155442/2 "2003-02-16T17:38:39Z")

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This I have got to hear.

Is it more haunting than the original?

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**Author:** ![Mith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e36b37/32.png) [@Mith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mith)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2003, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurt/155442/3 "2003-02-16T18:34:10Z")

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johnny did it well. it’s got a whole different feel to it.

old man singing it with wisdom … rather than trent with his fear and angst sound.  
good video too.

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**Author:** ![Cazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cazzle/32/75_2.png) [@Cazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cazzle)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurt/155442/4 "2003-02-20T08:22:44Z")

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I love it. I keep playing it over and over. I love the video clip too - [online here](http://www.losthighwayrecords.com/johnnycash/video/440063339_02_250k.asx). His voice is just so moving.

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**Author:** ![Tristan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tristan/32/18058_2.png) [@Tristan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tristan)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 8:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurt/155442/5 "2003-02-20T08:36:20Z")

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I’m not a country fan.

I’ve heard very little of Johnny Cash.

But this song has sunk it’s hooks into me pretty deeply. It’s almost as if he’s singing a song of regret for the depredations of his past… but more.

I don’t know. It’s haunting.

Also, after having watched the video about a dozen times (told you I was hooked) I am wondering if Johnny Cash has a stroke or somesuch at some time.

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**Author:** ![Spit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/76d3ee/32.png) [@Spit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spit)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 8:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurt/155442/6 "2003-02-20T08:47:51Z")

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You really need to see the video for full impact.

Amazing job.

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**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 8:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurt/155442/7 "2003-02-20T08:49:19Z")

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First Soundgarden’s “Rusty Cage,” then Depeche Mode’s “Personal Jesus” and now “Hurt.” Quite an impressive list of cover choices.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurt/155442/8 "2003-02-20T13:53:46Z")

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Hearing _Hurt_ sung by someone at the end of his life gives the song a whole new perspective. I have the CD in my shopping cart over at Amazon, but I haven’t bought it yet. Johnny Cash’s cover has been getting quite a lot of airplay on KROQ – it’s one of their most-requested songs. As I listened to it again this morning, it struck me: I’m getting burned out on it. It’s a great song, and I like Cash’s version. NIN sounds like everything else they play on this “alternative” station. Cash was refreshing at first. But as I said, it’s being over-played. I may still buy the CD so that I can hear the songs they’re _not_ playing.

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**Author:** ![broccoli](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@broccoli](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/broccoli)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurt/155442/9 "2003-02-20T14:33:20Z")

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Let me preface this by saying I really… _REALLY_ hate country & western music. It makes my skin crawl, and in some cases has actually made me gag. This is no joke.

That being said… Cash is a God among musicians. You really can’t put it any other way. I can’t think of anyone else who is still activly performing and coming up with either new material or covering other’s stuff in his own idiom who is as respected and, well, revered as this man. Big name artists in most genre of music have all payed homage to him. It’s almost sickening. 😃

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**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurt/155442/10 "2003-02-20T15:09:14Z")

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I have yet to hear it on radio, but CMT is doing their level best to overplay the song.

Luckily (I’d prefer not to get sick of it), I’ve only heard it twice… very beautiful. Maybe I should pick up the CD.

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**Author:** ![fizgig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f04885/32.png) [@fizgig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fizgig)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurt/155442/11 "2003-02-20T15:46:51Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Tristan \*  
> \*\* I am wondering if Johnny Cash has a stroke or somesuch at some time. \*\*

Yes, he had a stroke a few years ago that made one side of his face fall.

He is a God, and you can’t just classify his music as country, because it’s so much more.

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**Author:** ![scout1222](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@scout1222](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scout1222)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurt/155442/12 "2003-02-20T16:31:36Z")

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Since some of you seem to be knowledgeable about Cash, answer me one question that I have after seeing the video, please.

Is there really a Johnny Cash museum that’s been shuttered? Seems with the way people revere him, it would actually get business. How sad.

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**Author:** ![Archergal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Archergal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Archergal)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurt/155442/13 "2003-02-20T17:25:31Z")

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> \*Originally posted by cazzle \*  
> \*\*I love it. I keep playing it over and over. I love the video clip too - [online here](http://www.losthighwayrecords.com/johnnycash/video/440063339_02_250k.asx). His voice is just so moving. \*\*

Most. Affecting. Video. Ever.

Does anybody know the story behind this song? I hope he really doesn’t feel that bad about his life, looking back…

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**Author:** ![scout1222](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@scout1222](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scout1222)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurt/155442/14 "2003-02-20T18:49:36Z")

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**Archergal** , the song is written by Trent Reznor of Nine Inch Nails.

I think it seems to apply to Johnny Cash, from what little I know of him, but he didn’t actually write the song.

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**Author:** ![Invisible\_Chimp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f05b48/32.png) [@Invisible\_Chimp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Invisible_Chimp)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurt/155442/15 "2003-02-20T19:13:53Z")

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I haven’t heard “Rusty Cage” yet. I thought “Personal Jesus” was okay. But “Hurt” is awesome. Very nice cover. Another in the file of unexpected but effective cover songs by country music legends along with Dolly Parton doing Collective Soul’s “Shine” and Led Zeppelin’s “Stairway to Heaven.”

In the video, the man who gave us the line, “shot a man in Reno just to watch him die” in “Folsom Prison Blues” looks a little worse for wear, but it definately fits with the song nicely. My favorite moment in the video is when he sings “my sweetest friend” and they cut to June Carter Cash in the background. Very nice touch.

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**Author:** ![Invisible\_Chimp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f05b48/32.png) [@Invisible\_Chimp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Invisible_Chimp)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurt/155442/16 "2003-02-20T19:17:58Z")

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I just realized that Johnny cleaned up the song a bit. Where JC sings “crown of thorns,” Trent sang “crown of sh\*\*.” I can’t imagine the Man in Black swearing in a song. I also couldn’t imagine Betty White swearing in a movie, but she talks up a blue streak in that movie about the killer alligator.

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**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurt/155442/17 "2003-02-20T19:28:59Z")

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Oh yeah **Ataraxy** , hearing BW asking someone to suck her dick just about killed me! But she’s that way in real life, actually.

Back to Johnny- he could have written that song himself, **Archergal**. His life has been a wild ride, with alcohol, drugs, women, fights, you name it.

We found this video by accident (on VH1, no less!) and just freaked. It is wonderful and stunning and terrifying and sad.

It is a breath of fresh air among all the vapid, all-skin-and-no-substance crap I usually see as I flip PAST the music video stations.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurt/155442/18 "2003-02-20T20:05:41Z")

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“The Man Comes Around” is an awsome song. The whole disc is good with “Hurt” being just average in this bunch. I would advise purchase post-haste!

I, too, dislike “country”, but love Johnny. He is so beyond labels and catagorization that he stands alone.

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Fagjunk Theology: Not just for sodomite propagandists anymore.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurt/155442/19 "2003-02-20T21:34:42Z")

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_But we will meet again  
Some sunny day_

And so ends the CD. I liked it. I agree that _The Man Comes Around_ is good. Didn’t Peter, Paul & Mary cover that one?

I try to listen to C&W occasionally, since I claim to like all forms of music. But I just can’t listen to Country for very long. Johnny Cash is an exception. His music always struck me as being more Folk than anything else, with a bit of rock’n’roll in some of it. Not really Country _per se_. And then there’s his Voice. Unmistakeable. Not to mention that he’s just a majorly cool guy.

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**Author:** ![jjohnny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@jjohnny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjohnny)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hurt/155442/20 "2003-02-20T21:38:07Z")

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Hey, how come nobody welcomed me here like I see some of the other “newbies” being welcomed? Just wondering. I saw that video for the first time Saturday evening, then cringed through “Saving Private Ryan” for the very first time. No wonder I couldn’t sleep that night.  
I do enjoy these forums.

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