# Hush up, Lance Strongarm. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 4, 2012, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hush-up-lance-strongarm/633651 "2012-09-04T17:00:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hush-up-lance-strongarm/633651/21 "2012-09-04T17:56:28Z")
> [@lance\_strongarm](#): > > I didn’t say it counted as a victory. It doesn’t. It’s simply a dignified end to the conversation that beats whining and insults. Yeah, you just scream dignity, bub. Scream it like a hillbilly seeing a dentist for the first time to get his final tooth pulled. ---
**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hush-up-lance-strongarm/633651/22 "2012-09-04T18:05:39Z")
Lance Strongarm is an idiot. Did you see his posts in [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=663751) thread? You know when people say “Keep an open mind, but not so open your brain falls out”? Well, Lance’s brain fell out. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hush-up-lance-strongarm/633651/23 "2012-09-04T18:14:20Z")
Let me demonstrate how this ignore thing works. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hush-up-lance-strongarm/633651/24 "2012-09-04T18:33:23Z")
Who said that? ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hush-up-lance-strongarm/633651/25 "2012-09-04T18:50:16Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > The OP has the tone of an old lady scolding her cat. What has this forum become? Somewhere, Veb is weeping. It lacked bile, but made up for it in eloquence. Peppering a Pit thread with ‘fuck’ is often a telltale sign of a soft mind. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hush-up-lance-strongarm/633651/26 "2012-09-04T18:54:11Z")
He’s awfully emotionally invested in that SSM thread, isn’t he? He’s utterly frantic to find someone who would acknowledge that there might be a non-bigoted reason to oppose SSM. Even **magellan** doesn’t come off that desperate. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hush-up-lance-strongarm/633651/27 "2012-09-04T18:54:25Z")
While we’re defining trolls can we add Pedantic Troll, there are a few Dopers I can name off the top of my head. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hush-up-lance-strongarm/633651/28 "2012-09-04T18:56:41Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > I don’t think he’s a troll, in the classical sense: I think he really is that dim. If you’re right, though, then he’s brilliant at it. I mulled it over a bit… his style strikes me a bit too calculated for this board for it to be the product of simple dimness - it’s more like trolling dimness. Got a message board whose theme is fighting ignorance? Accuse them of being ignorant! If the membership is of a liberal, rational, tolerant bent… accuse them of being irrational and intolerant, just like the people they oppose! Blather, evince, repeat. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hush-up-lance-strongarm/633651/29 "2012-09-04T18:59:34Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > While we’re defining trolls can we add Pedantic Troll, there are a few Dopers I can name off the top of my head. You know, that comma should really be a semicolon… Also, there should be a comma between “trolls” and “can”, it occurs to me. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hush-up-lance-strongarm/633651/30 "2012-09-04T19:03:49Z")
Maybe you’re right, but the comparison to my stoner roommate was also deliberate. There’s a version of open-mindedness that fails to distinguish between the validity of any opinion set at all, EXCEPT for one: it considers itself the only form of open-mindedness, and considers anyone who calls any OTHER opinion bigoted, wrong, close-minded, etc. to be close-minded itself. An example: Bob says that God wants to kill all Jews. Frank says that that’s a ridiculous and close-minded opinion. The stoner won’t have anything to say about Bob, but will call Frank a bigot, because, like, how can we really know God’s mind, dude, and aren’t all truths subjective, and maybe that’s Bob’s reality, man, do you grok what I’m saying? I suspect that the less sober you are, the less irritating this manner of thinking is. Anyway, this sort of weird meta-open-mindedness is squishy thinking to be sure, but it’s not necessarily dishonest. And folks who think this way might well be attracted to a messageboard that touts itself as an open-minded honest look at the cosmos, because they think they’re the only ones TRULY capable of doing so, since they’re more open-minded than open-minded people are. > [@](#): > > Also, there should be a comma between “trolls” and “can”, it occurs to me. If you’re writing from the United States, please remember to put your comma inside the quotation marks. If you’re not, what are you furriners doing on our messageboard anyway, consarnit? ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hush-up-lance-strongarm/633651/31 "2012-09-04T19:06:20Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > You know, that comma should really be a semicolon… > Also, there should be a comma between “trolls” and “can”, it occurs to me. …and at least one for Grammar Troll. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hush-up-lance-strongarm/633651/32 "2012-09-04T19:09:08Z")
Punctuation isn’t grammar. ---
**Author:** ![Lasciel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e79b87/32.png) [@Lasciel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lasciel)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hush-up-lance-strongarm/633651/33 "2012-09-04T19:19:25Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Blather, evince, repeat. Very nicely done. ---
**Author:** ![elninost0rm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ed655f/32.png) [@elninost0rm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elninost0rm)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hush-up-lance-strongarm/633651/34 "2012-09-04T19:23:10Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > Punctuation isn’t grammar. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hush-up-lance-strongarm/633651/35 "2012-09-04T19:34:49Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > You know, that comma should really be a semicolon… > > Also, there should be a comma between “trolls” and “can”, it occurs to me. > [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > If you’re writing from the United States, please remember to put your comma inside the quotation marks. If you’re not, what are you furriners doing on our messageboard anyway, consarnit? All good points. > [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > Punctuation isn’t grammar. Quiet, you! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![akwally1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akwally1/32/3220_2.png) [@akwally1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/akwally1)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hush-up-lance-strongarm/633651/36 "2012-09-04T20:17:59Z")
> [@lance\_strongarm](#): > > Again, it takes two to tango. So if I’m an exhaustion troll, so is everyone who is going back and forth with me, aren’t they? You know, I never wander into these things, but in this case I have to say to **Lance** , I don’t think this word (troll) means what you think it means. Generally the person who is debating/arguing with the troll is trying (with futility) to convince the troll that they are wrong and should come over to the side of reason and right(or at least their version of it). The troll is the one who is posting things simply to piss off the other person. So no, just because someone is arguing at length with a troll, doesn’t mean that that person is also a troll. They may certainly be, for other reasons, but that isn’t one of them. Or at least not exclusively; p.s. - I ended with a semi-colon just to piss off the punctuation trolls. Mark ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hush-up-lance-strongarm/633651/37 "2012-09-04T20:24:26Z")
Meh. He’s not being any more obstinate or petulant on the point than \*\*tomndebb \*\*or **magellan01** , and he’s not even as tiresomely voluble as the latter. Now: I’ll punctuate quotations any way I damn feel, btw, and the non-US approach does make more sense. So, unless you can show me an enforceable law, stuff your commas anywhere it’s convenient for you. So there too. _:pbbbtttt:_ ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hush-up-lance-strongarm/633651/38 "2012-09-04T20:28:41Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > It lacked bile, but made up for it in eloquence. Peppering a Pit thread with ‘fuck’ is often a telltale sign of a soft mind. Not to get off topic, but if you think that my complaint was the fact that he didn’t use the f-word enough, you are the world’s biggest retard. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hush-up-lance-strongarm/633651/39 "2012-09-04T20:34:16Z")
Hush up? _HUSH UP???_ ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hush-up-lance-strongarm/633651/40 "2012-09-04T20:39:32Z")
I’m beginning to suspect that guy is not really Lance Armstrong. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hush-up-lance-strongarm/633651.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hush-up-lance-strongarm/633651.md?page=3)