# Hush up, Lance Strongarm. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 4, 2012, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hush-up-lance-strongarm/633651 "2012-09-04T17:00:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hush-up-lance-strongarm/633651/41 "2012-09-04T20:41:00Z")
Meh. He is guilty of being boring. I’m following the SSM thread (it being one of my hot-button issues) and he is playing rhetoric games. No, there is no physical or logical reason to automatically presume that all anti-SSM arguments are based on prejudice. However, like a pink crow, just because something \*could \*exist does not mean it _does_, and we will all apologize if you can show us one. So far, no anti-SSM argument has been presented that isn’t based on maintaining the “otherness” or inferior social position of homosexuals. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hush-up-lance-strongarm/633651/42 "2012-09-04T20:46:04Z")
It seems to me that people who are arguing against **lance strongarm** have an awful tendency toward straw-man rephrasing of what he says, rather than simply rebutting what he actually says. If he’s wrong, say why he’s wrong, but don’t go through the gyrations of “In other words,” or “But that implies,” or “I think what he really means,” and so on. This is excruciatingly dishonest. That said…lance…you need to work a little on your rhetorical skills. Your ripostes have a tendency to be just slightly out of line with the thrusts. You have a tendency to say things just a _little_ off-kilter. I feel very strongly that your correspondents have been taking unfair advantage of this, trying to impute serious failures in reasoning on the basis of these very minor linguistic solecisms. Still, in at least two long-running debates, you could have avoided a lot of hassle by being just a bit more clear. This is like a pool of sharks or piranha. The tiniest scratch on your knee, and they go into a frenzy at the scent of blood. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hush-up-lance-strongarm/633651/43 "2012-09-04T21:01:13Z")
Please. We know what he’s saying. But the level of certainty he’s demanding is unreasonable. By his logic, we could not even say an apple will fall to the ground if dropped. There may be a chance – an infinitesimal chance, but still a chance – that gravity will be reversed for that particular object and it’ll go rocketing away from the earth. Because of that chance, saying “This apple will fall” before dropping it is arrogance. If such a thing did happen, we’ll all go “HOLY SHIT DID YOU SEE THAT HOW DID THAT HAPPEN.” But until it does, we can be pretty confident it won’t happen. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hush-up-lance-strongarm/633651/44 "2012-09-04T21:23:08Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > I’m beginning to suspect that guy is not really Lance Armstrong. Yeah, he’s not nearly as ballsy. ---
**Author:** ![HelterSkelter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e19adc/32.png) [@HelterSkelter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelterSkelter)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hush-up-lance-strongarm/633651/45 "2012-09-04T21:55:53Z")
Wz.!ugly on Np ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hush-up-lance-strongarm/633651/46 "2012-09-04T22:11:18Z")
Maybe the chewbacca defense can show us how SSM is bad. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hush-up-lance-strongarm/633651/47 "2012-09-04T22:16:58Z")
> [@HelterSkelter](#): > > Wz.!ugly on > Np Well said! ---
**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hush-up-lance-strongarm/633651/48 "2012-09-05T00:59:49Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > I’m beginning to suspect that guy is not really Lance Armstrong. No, but apparently he is a bit of a dope. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hush-up-lance-strongarm/633651/49 "2012-09-05T03:13:52Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > Not to get off topic, but if you think that my complaint was the fact that he didn’t use the f-word enough, you are the world’s biggest retard. Insults like that are the telltales of the soft mind I was speaking of. ---
**Author:** ![Beastly\_Rotter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/45deac/32.png) [@Beastly\_Rotter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beastly_Rotter)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hush-up-lance-strongarm/633651/50 "2012-09-05T03:53:22Z")
> [@lance\_strongarm](#): > > It’s easy to call someone a troll, isn’t it? You’d think, but there’s so much competition these days. ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hush-up-lance-strongarm/633651/51 "2012-09-05T03:56:40Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > Insults like that are the telltales of the soft mind I was speaking of. Bullshit. Plenty of people who don’t have “soft minds” use those kinds of insults or curse for humor/emphasis. People with minds even sharper than _yours_, if you can fathom it! I’m sure all your conversations are akin to Dorothy Parker and Oscar Wilde exchanging witty banter with nary a cuss word in sight, but just because you consider those who use profanity morons doesn’t make it so. **Giraffe** ’s response to you was more entertaining than any of the humorless remarks you’ve contributed to the thread. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hush-up-lance-strongarm/633651/52 "2012-09-05T04:02:31Z")
> [@woodstockbirdybird](#): > > Bullshit. Plenty of people who don’t have “soft minds” use those kinds of insults or curse for humor/emphasis. People with minds even sharper than _yours_, if you can fathom it! I’m sure all your conversations are akin to Dorothy Parker and Oscar Wilde exchanging witty banter with nary a cuss word in sight, but just because you consider those who use profanity morons doesn’t make it so. **Giraffe** ’s response to you was more entertaining than any of the humorless remarks you’ve contributed to the thread. I didn’t realize the Pit was a comedy tryout. Ok, from Giraffe’s repertoire, you **woodstockbirdybird** are a retard. Didn’t that sting? ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hush-up-lance-strongarm/633651/53 "2012-09-05T04:11:12Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > The OP has the tone of an old lady scolding her cat. What has this forum become? Somewhere, Veb is weeping. > [@Sitnam](#): > > It lacked bile, but made up for it in eloquence. Peppering a Pit thread with ‘fuck’ is often a telltale sign of a soft mind. > [@Giraffe](#): > > Not to get off topic, but if you think that my complaint was the fact that he didn’t use the f-word enough, you are the world’s biggest retard. > [@Sitnam](#): > > Insults like that are the telltales of the soft mind I was speaking of. Don’t mind him. He’s just upset he didn’t win the World’s Biggest Retard competition this year. ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hush-up-lance-strongarm/633651/54 "2012-09-05T04:12:37Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > I didn’t realize the Pit was a comedy tryout. > > Ok, from Giraffe’s repertoire, you **woodstockbirdybird** are a retard. > > Didn’t that sting? See? That was actually humorous. And much less smug than blanket statements about “soft minds” using profanity. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hush-up-lance-strongarm/633651/55 "2012-09-05T04:13:51Z")
> [@woodstockbirdybird](#): > > See? That was actually humorous. And much less smug than blanket statements about “soft minds” using profanity. Son, you are embarrassing yourself in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hush-up-lance-strongarm/633651/56 "2012-09-05T04:23:40Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > Son, you are embarrassing yourself in this thread. You’re embarrassing yourself! You’re embarrassing yourself! The whole thread is embarrassing! Dopers are embarrassing! That poster, that sick, crazy, depraved man, posted a nancy-pants OP, and he’d like to do it again! He _told_ me so! It’s just a message board! It’s a message board! It’s “Let’s Make A Deal”! “Let’s Make A Deal”! Hey Sitnam, you wanna “Make A Deal”? I got an insane moderator who likes to close threads like this! Whaddya wanna gimme Frank, a suspension? ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hush-up-lance-strongarm/633651/57 "2012-09-05T04:31:09Z")
> [@Autolycus](#): > > Don’t mind him. He’s just upset he didn’t win the World’s Biggest Retard competition this year. You have to admit that it’s total bullshit that they require drug testing. I’d have totally won if it weren’t for that damn poppyseed muffin. ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hush-up-lance-strongarm/633651/58 "2012-09-05T05:03:09Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > Son, you are embarrassing yourself in this thread. I guess it was too much to hope the smugness was just a fluke. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hush-up-lance-strongarm/633651/59 "2012-09-05T05:19:28Z")
> [@woodstockbirdybird](#): > > See? That was actually humorous. Let’s not get ahead of ourselves, here. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hush-up-lance-strongarm/633651/60 "2012-09-05T05:21:06Z")
> [@woodstockbirdybird](#): > > I guess it was too much to hope the smugness was just a fluke. What? No ‘fuck’ or ‘retard’? That’s not funny, try again. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hush-up-lance-strongarm/633651.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hush-up-lance-strongarm/633651.md?page=4)