Hypothetical about wild pets

Between the zoo and home I kept, or had the care of, everything from reptiles to rodents, including birds, fish, amphibians, insects and arachnids. You can throw in skunks, oppossums, kinkajous, and the usual cats, dogs and rabbits.

Oh, by the way, the Egyption Fruit Bat we had at the zoo was never really tame but she would allow me to stroke her very carefully.

On the other hand, the squirrel, 'possums and skunk seemed to be the closest to “tame”. They were all brought into captivity as babies.

One thing I pushed, over and over, is that exotics do not make good pets. Matter of fact, I haven’t had anything exotic for several years now and I doubt I will again, especially since I’m not at the zoo anymore, although I’m still on good terms with my old boss.

I think the worst exotic has to be the caiman. What comes out of the petstore is a foot or so of cute little mini-gator. What you have a surprisingly short time later is several feet of very tempermental and dangerous meat grinder. Some types, like the common speckled, get over six feet. Black Caiman, according to some sources, can hit twenty feet. BAD idea.

I also know how easy it can be to get venomous snakes. One idiotic aquiantance of mine decided, during a fight with his boyfriend, that it would be a good idea to shake their little cobra at him. Yes, alchohol was involved. He nearly lost his arm and spent quite a while in hospital over that one. The snake is now in a secure facility. It’s pretty crazy too - I sure wouldn’t try to handle it.

Exotics? No.

I never would have known it. You expressed that beautifully, elelle.

When I was a boy, I had a pet flying squirrel and I agree with your acquaintance 100%. I still remember that little animal as being one of the sweetest, most loving creatures I’ve ever known. 60+ years downstream, I still sometimes dream about that flying squirrel.

There is a recurring theme here well expressed by Lemur866, elelle, **zoogirl **and others to the effect that wild animal species do not make good pets. It’s unsafe for the keeper and other people (for variable values of “unsafe” dependant upon species) as well as quite often being a disservice to the animal (for variable values of “disservice” dependant upon the keeper). This is the reason I offered a semantic distinction upthread.

A “pet” is generally an accessory to our own lives. We get a dog (a domestic, bred for umpteen generations away from its wild ancestry) for companionship, or perhaps to serve a role, like guard or retriever. We get a canary (admittedly closer to wild stock, but also captive bred for umpteen generations, the survivors quite suited to life in a cage) to hear it sing. *These *are “pets”.

The fact that the Brown or Spectacled Caiman is sold in a “Pet Store” doesn’t really mean it is suitable as a pet. **zoogirl **is right, this is one of the most aggressive crocodilians on the planet. I’d rather handle a 12 foot American Alligator or American Crocodile (or even a 12 foot Black Caiman- usually a relatively even tempered species) than an 8 foot Spectacled Caiman. Lucky for us they don’t get much bigger than that.

Baby Green Iguanas are another case in point. A 14 inch emerald green lizard that eats only fruits and veggies sounds like a fine pet. But given optimum care (and optimum care should be our moral responsibility as keepers) that adorable baby will turn into six feet of lizard in less than two years. They can bite right through the hard rind of a gourd, chomp easily through a stalk of broccoli, or lacerate your hand beyond surgical repair in a moment of fright.

These animals and more simply do not fit the expectations one would have for a “pet”. They do not accessorize our lives, but instead require us to restructure our lives to accommodate them. So I prefer to refer to wildlife owned/kept outside of a zoo or other formal collection, not as pets, but as personal possession animals. Note that I have no blanket objection to personal possession of wildlife. I do though expect all animals to be properly kept. So if you are willing to

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[li]undertake the necessary learning curve for the proper husbandry of the animal you desire, and[/li][li]satisfy its basic species-specific requirements for space, temperature (including temp gradient if necessary), diet, photoperiod, etc, etc (not “just build a cage” or “let it roam the house”), and[/li][li]learn the techniques necessary for handling the animal safely, including practice and even apprenticeship with a skilled handler for difficult, dangerous, and/or fractious species such that the safety of the animal itself as well as the keeper, the keeper’s family, and the public at large is assured, and[/li][li]guarantee to properly maintain that animal throughout the course of its life, not abandoning it when it outgrows babyhood or convenience,[/li][/ul]

then and only then are you ready for your “personal possession” animal. If you will thus qualify yourself, in advance of taking possession of the animal, then I have no problem if you wish to own a squirrel (a fairly low hurdle to jump) or a python, iguana, or jungle cat (a higher but not unreasonable level) or even lions, tigers, bears, oh! my ( a truly huge level of responsibility).

If you won’t educate yourself and provide the proper captive environment, then you shouldn’t have that squirrel. Or that canary either.

Funny story about the mischief of a pet squirrel.

I do not have experience with exotics, but one problem with orphan animals (touched on above) is that they may have trouble interacting with their own species and may view humans as being of their own species. It is also very hard to resist rewarding this behavior when they’re young and cute. Even domesticated species can become dangerous if hand-raised without concern for socialization and setting of boundaries, and this is not an uncommon problem with orphan horses who were bottle-raised and not turned out with other foals and adult horses at a young age. They think of humans as their playmates, and what was an adorable trick – things like rearing up and play-fighting – when they were 100 lbs becomes potentially lethal when they are 1000 lbs. It can be done, but you have to be aware of how to socialize the animal, and horses who were raised without enough equine contact when young often seem a little “off” when you are dealing with them, like they think of you not as the human with personal space needs but as a smaller, wimpier horse that they can push around. Even an animal doing something that would be considered positive/friendly interaction within their own species, like mutual grooming or trying to play a friendly game of tag, can really hurt. I certainly wouldn’t want even a small animal thinking of me as its main playmate, since animals tend to play rough.

When I was a kid my friend had a pet raccoon that used to sit her butt on the couch, lean back like a little fat person, and watch TV with them. She also had her own little box of cereal, she liked rasin bran the best. She was a baby when they found her under the front porch, her mom got into a fight with the dog and lost. It was pretty tame.