# Hypothetical Road Trip: Aggressive Vegan vs. Extremely Pregnant Woman **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [June 28, 2011, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hypothetical-road-trip-aggressive-vegan-vs-extremely-pregnant-woman/587160 "2011-06-28T17:20:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hypothetical-road-trip-aggressive-vegan-vs-extremely-pregnant-woman/587160/81 "2011-06-29T11:53:33Z")
> [@horsetech](#): > > I dunno, in a Donner party scenario, pregnant lady + fetus would probably be better eating than a stringy vegan. šŸ˜› Kind of a turducken thing? ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hypothetical-road-trip-aggressive-vegan-vs-extremely-pregnant-woman/587160/82 "2011-06-29T12:06:42Z")
> [@aruvqan](#): > > About the only nonvegan thing I like is jerky, cheese and cream in my coffee. Interesting. I like jerky and cheese as much as anyone but I prefer just sugar and cream myself. šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hypothetical-road-trip-aggressive-vegan-vs-extremely-pregnant-woman/587160/83 "2011-06-29T12:07:59Z")
I wouldnā€™t choose the ā€œextremely pregnant ladyā€ since a delivery would ruin my car (or kill someone). However, if the ā€œaggressive veganā€ is shooting his mouth or being a little shit, tough. I stop where I stop and I donā€™t need to talk to the fucker (thatā€™s why God invented headphones). ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hypothetical-road-trip-aggressive-vegan-vs-extremely-pregnant-woman/587160/84 "2011-06-29T12:10:06Z")
> [@YaraMateo](#): > > This reminds me of some guy my college hires I think once a year to come. I only saw him once (thank god!), but saw him wondering around campus a few times after that. He would start out all nice. With his bullshit about heā€™s going to accept us if we openly listen to him. Then he compared beef farms to the holocaust and I was all oh really. :dubious: He also (openly) for crime if it meant freeing animals. So, itā€™s ok to destory property and ruin someoneā€™s business if youā€™re a dirty hippieā€¦ Er vegan. Did your college hire Nick Van Owen from the Lost World?! ---
**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hypothetical-road-trip-aggressive-vegan-vs-extremely-pregnant-woman/587160/85 "2011-06-29T12:16:59Z")
> [@aruvqan](#): > > About the only nonvegan thing I like is jerky, cheese and cream in my coffee. I could easily change to drinking only teas and avoiding cheese and jerky for that trip. Although there is tofu jerky that is kickass ā€¦ mmmmmbbqtofurkeymmmmmm Might I make a suggestion? If you are interested in culling your cream intake, I find soy milk goes good with coffee too. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hypothetical-road-trip-aggressive-vegan-vs-extremely-pregnant-woman/587160/86 "2011-06-29T12:41:10Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > I was going to say the same about you, too. Iā€™m going to have to join you guys on any upcoming trips. And in advance, ā€œShotgun!ā€ Hey! The rule is, no calling shotgun until weā€™re actually within sight of the car. Sheesh, Iā€™m an only child and even I know you canā€™t call shotgun ahead, or in your mind, or anything. šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hypothetical-road-trip-aggressive-vegan-vs-extremely-pregnant-woman/587160/87 "2011-06-29T14:14:00Z")
> [@DCnDC](#): > > Interesting. I like jerky and cheese as much as anyone but I prefer just sugar and cream myself. šŸ˜‰ \ I am just picky about what I eat on road trips, McDeath and Burger Death give me the shits, and that is not fun on a long road trip. It is also just cheaper to bring all the food along and not bother getting anything except water or iced tea or hot coffee along the way. We have a killer recipe for beef jerky - it is easy enough to make to bring along. Way better than the chemical loaded store bought jerky. ---
**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hypothetical-road-trip-aggressive-vegan-vs-extremely-pregnant-woman/587160/88 "2011-06-29T14:17:56Z")
> [@orcenio](#): > > Might I make a suggestion? If you are interested in culling your cream intake, I find soy milk goes good with coffee too. Tried it, and the only reason I would cull the cream out is to not conflict with the vegan - I am just as happy with hot tea as hot coffee. As long as my BP meds are working I can do a cup in the morning, otherwise no coffee at all. At least tea is low enough in caffeine to not give me palpitations. Normally on road trips I default to ice water after that first iced tea. And being sensitive/allergic to coconut, coffee whiteners give me the runs [my normal reaction to palm/tropical/coconut products] ---
**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hypothetical-road-trip-aggressive-vegan-vs-extremely-pregnant-woman/587160/89 "2011-06-29T14:30:33Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#): > > Right. Itā€™s not like I have to deliver the baby myself. So basically Iā€™d have to travel with someone who has to piss a lot and might go into labor. Great, let her pee and if she does end up popping, I get her to a hospital and let the doctors do all the work. If Iā€™m dealing with devoted hard-core vegan, my entire trip is filled with nagging. No way, maā€™am. This was pretty much how my decision process sorted out. And if I absolutely have to deliver the baby myself, I can. (Though if complications arise, weā€™ll be in serious trouble.) Along with other people, itā€™s the militant, evangelizing nature of the vegan that makes me pick the pregnant woman. If the vegan was able to talk about anything else, Iā€™d probably pick them instead. I also agree with the observation that there are going to be giant stretches of the drive where vegan food simply isnā€™t going to be easily available (From personal experience: W. Texas, large chunks of N.M, Nevada, and Arizona). ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hypothetical-road-trip-aggressive-vegan-vs-extremely-pregnant-woman/587160/90 "2011-06-29T14:53:53Z")
> [@Gray\_Ghost](#): > > I also agree with the observation that there are going to be giant stretches of the drive where vegan food simply isnā€™t going to be easily available (From personal experience: W. Texas, large chunks of N.M, Nevada, and Arizona). Thank you for helping to plan the route. šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![brainstall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@brainstall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brainstall)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hypothetical-road-trip-aggressive-vegan-vs-extremely-pregnant-woman/587160/91 "2011-06-29T15:17:07Z")
Pregnant woman. Iā€™m vegan sympathetic and have no problem eating vegan meals, but to be trapped in a car with an aggressive, militant vegan who wonā€™t shut up for a long trip, nope, Iā€™ll take the pregnant lady and hope sheā€™s nice. I like to stop and stretch my legs and check out the rest stop areas, so frequent pee breaks are no problem - Iā€™m used to it from travelling with my dogs. If she goes into labour, I have a midwife friend so I know all about birthinā€™ babies (not) and it would make a heck of a good guess what I did today story. ---
**Author:** ![Dogzilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@Dogzilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dogzilla)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hypothetical-road-trip-aggressive-vegan-vs-extremely-pregnant-woman/587160/92 "2011-06-29T15:46:43Z")
I think Iā€™d probably go with the pregnant woman, unless. She spends the entire 3,000 mile trip talking about babby babby babby babby babby babby babby babby babbyā€¦ babby clothes, babby strollers, babby accessories, babby feeding, babby birthing, babby babby babby babby babbyā€¦ If thatā€™s the case, I reserve the right to turn around, go back to LA, and pick up the vegan. I can put up with the vegan evangelizing more than I can put up with the babby evangelizing. If the pregnant woman discusses all manner of topics aside from babby, then the vegan can suck it. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hypothetical-road-trip-aggressive-vegan-vs-extremely-pregnant-woman/587160/93 "2011-06-29T16:24:29Z")
The pregnant one. I delivered a lot of babies in my early career. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hypothetical-road-trip-aggressive-vegan-vs-extremely-pregnant-woman/587160/94 "2011-06-29T17:51:11Z")
While I will pit my ability to ignore chatter against anyone elseā€™s ability to ignore chatter, Iā€™ll take the pregnant woman. The route will be planned to connect the dots between hospitals. There will be many rest stops. There will be a cell phone, flares, a labor kit, and a baby care kit, just in case. And towels. Odd are sheā€™ll still be pregnant when we get there. If she goes into labor, odds are that weā€™ll get to the hospital. If we donā€™t get to the hospital, odds are that the delivery will go fine. So thereā€™s a good possibility of things being fine. Thereā€™s no chance of things being fine with the vegan with no ability to shut up. If you canā€™t deal with the idea that something can go catastrophically wrong, you shouldnā€™t be planning a 3000 mile car trip. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hypothetical-road-trip-aggressive-vegan-vs-extremely-pregnant-woman/587160/95 "2011-06-29T19:20:54Z")
Do I love the woman? Because if it were my wife, I canā€™t see how Iā€™d let her go on the trip without me, and if it were one of my sisters, my stepdaughter, or one of my nieces, Iā€™d be much more comfortable accompanying them on the trip than not (unless someone I knew well and trusted were also on the trip with her). If it were a woman I didnā€™t know, Iā€™d go with the vegan. Iā€™m confident I can take most herbivorous humans in a fistfight. šŸ˜ƒ Also, part of me enjoys arguing for its own sake, and this situation would free me of the need to pick a fight. ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hypothetical-road-trip-aggressive-vegan-vs-extremely-pregnant-woman/587160/96 "2011-06-29T19:37:25Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Which brings us back to that whole shutting the fuck up thing. I will be making it to Miami. Driving. He might not. Or he might find his ass riding in the trunk. You completely ignore the reality of dealing with a large and angry male that simply is not going to put up with his bullshit. Gosh, what a badass you must be! If I was driving cross-country with you, Iā€™d only hope some of that Charles Bronson testosterone would find its way into my bloodstream! Please, tell us how huge your cock is next! ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hypothetical-road-trip-aggressive-vegan-vs-extremely-pregnant-woman/587160/97 "2011-06-29T19:42:09Z")
> [@woodstockbirdybird](#): > > Gosh, what a badass you must be! If I was driving cross-country with you, Iā€™d only hope some of that Charles Bronson testosterone would find its way into my bloodstream! Please, tell us how huge your cock is next! If youā€™ve got a better way of dealing with an aggressive vegan than channeling Charles Bronson, I need to hear it. ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hypothetical-road-trip-aggressive-vegan-vs-extremely-pregnant-woman/587160/98 "2011-06-29T19:44:12Z")
Iā€™d just sprinkle some bacon bits into their salad until they got too sluggish to keep yapping. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hypothetical-road-trip-aggressive-vegan-vs-extremely-pregnant-woman/587160/99 "2011-06-29T19:47:19Z")
Hey, not bad. ---
**Author:** ![Dogzilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@Dogzilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dogzilla)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hypothetical-road-trip-aggressive-vegan-vs-extremely-pregnant-woman/587160/100 "2011-06-29T19:47:53Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > If youā€™ve got a better way of dealing with an aggressive vegan than channeling Charles Bronson, I need to hear it. Try channeling Chuck Norris. šŸ˜‰ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hypothetical-road-trip-aggressive-vegan-vs-extremely-pregnant-woman/587160.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hypothetical-road-trip-aggressive-vegan-vs-extremely-pregnant-woman/587160.md?page=6)