# Hypothetical Road Trip: Aggressive Vegan vs. Extremely Pregnant Woman

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [June 28, 2011, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hypothetical-road-trip-aggressive-vegan-vs-extremely-pregnant-woman/587160 "2011-06-28T17:20:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hypothetical-road-trip-aggressive-vegan-vs-extremely-pregnant-woman/587160/121 "2011-07-05T21:58:52Z")

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It seems to me like you are equating “vegan” with “aggressive proselytizing jerk.” Wouldn’t the scenario work as well with any other cause? Say, a commited Afrocentrist who won’t shut up about everything having been invented first in Africa, or a committed fundamentalist who won’t shut up about saving your soul, or a Freeper who won’t shut up about politics?

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hypothetical-road-trip-aggressive-vegan-vs-extremely-pregnant-woman/587160/122 "2011-07-05T22:01:21Z")

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> [@Sailboat](#):
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> It seems to me like you are equating “vegan” with “aggressive proselytizing jerk.”

No, it seems like he’s equating “aggressive vegan” with “aggressive prostelytizing jerk.”

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hypothetical-road-trip-aggressive-vegan-vs-extremely-pregnant-woman/587160/123 "2011-07-05T23:09:22Z")

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> [@Sailboat](#):
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> It seems to me like you are equating “vegan” with “aggressive proselytizing jerk.” Wouldn’t the scenario work as well with any other cause? Say, a commited Afrocentrist who won’t shut up about everything having been invented first in Africa, or a committed fundamentalist who won’t shut up about saving your soul, or a Freeper who won’t shut up about politics?

But the OP specified that this vegan _is_ an aggressive jerk.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hypothetical-road-trip-aggressive-vegan-vs-extremely-pregnant-woman/587160/124 "2011-07-05T23:15:30Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> Reading is fundamental. In this case, a closer reading might have noted that the poll is about an aggressive vegan, and the guys you cited are not vegan, but vegetarians. Your own cite mentions the Shields guy regularly consumes eggs–a major no-no in the vegan world.

On the other hand, they’ve got the “aggressive” part down pat.

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**Author:** ![nashiitashii](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7c8e57/32.png) [@nashiitashii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nashiitashii)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2011, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hypothetical-road-trip-aggressive-vegan-vs-extremely-pregnant-woman/587160/125 "2011-07-06T02:34:37Z")

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> [@EvilTOJ](#):
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> I’m amused by the people assuming the vegan is male. I’m my experience, I’ve never seen one of those. Always female. Always.

My only experience with a proselytizing vegetarian has been male; don’t know if he was vegan or not, but he was the most annoying proselytizer I have ever met, including the proselytizing atheist and all the religious fanatics.

> [@Gray\_Ghost](#):
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> This was pretty much how my decision process sorted out. And if I absolutely have to deliver the baby myself, I can. (Though if complications arise, we’ll be in serious trouble.) Along with other people, it’s the militant, evangelizing nature of the vegan that makes me pick the pregnant woman. If the vegan was able to talk about anything else, I’d probably pick them instead. I also agree with the observation that there are going to be giant stretches of the drive where vegan food simply isn’t going to be easily available (From personal experience: W. Texas, large chunks of N.M, Nevada, and Arizona).

Due to the low availability of non-vegan food in a reasonable chunk of the US and the fact that folks who are obsessed with one thing only are pretty annoying, I’d go with the pregnant lady. We’re not told whether she’s the Only Pregnant Woman Ever syndrome type or not, but she certainly has potential for thoughts outside of “OMG, there’s an awesome thing growing inside of me” and may have some fun stories about the horrors of pregnancy to tell. If she goes into labor, we can figure it out.

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**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2011, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hypothetical-road-trip-aggressive-vegan-vs-extremely-pregnant-woman/587160/126 "2011-07-06T18:14:16Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> No, it seems like he’s equating “aggressive vegan” with “aggressive prostelytizing jerk.”

> [@Miller](#):
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> On the other hand, they’ve got the “aggressive” part down pat.

Most of the respondents, however, are focusing on the “vegan” part and not the “aggressive” part. A lot of bottled-up hostility is showing.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2011, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hypothetical-road-trip-aggressive-vegan-vs-extremely-pregnant-woman/587160/127 "2011-07-06T19:03:19Z")

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> [@Acid\_Lamp](#):
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> Not to mention that they GOT to that excellent condition by consuming loads of meat for several years while training. Maintaining weight, and building it are two entirely different games.

No, one of them was a vegetarian his whole life.

“Shields, whose parents are vegetarians, grew up on a meatless diet, never wavered, and is in large part the catalyst for the trend.”

I’m sure Oakminster could terrify anyone who was an actual vegan, but if one of those vegetarians was in there I’m sure he’d end up offering to toss the salad himself.

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