# I Accuse What Exit of Being a Liar

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-accuse-what-exit-of-being-a-liar/478352>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 22, 2008, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-accuse-what-exit-of-being-a-liar/478352 "2008-12-22T19:33:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-accuse-what-exit-of-being-a-liar/478352/301 "2008-12-26T16:15:04Z")

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**brazil84** , are you constitutionally capable of _not_ being the last poster in threads like this? Every time I go past the BBQ Pit page, if I don’t see you listed as the last poster in this thread, all I have to do is wait a bit before you turn up.

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**Author:** ![pkd88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/2bfe46/32.png) [@pkd88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkd88)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-accuse-what-exit-of-being-a-liar/478352/302 "2008-12-26T16:50:25Z")

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brazil84, do you think that there was a secret meeting where everyone voted to pick on you? Do you think EVERYONE is complaining about you as a joke?

All of these people are making the same comments about your posts, threads and debates yet you are the only one who doesn’t get it.

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**Author:** ![George\_Kaplin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3e96dc/32.png) [@George\_Kaplin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/George_Kaplin)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-accuse-what-exit-of-being-a-liar/478352/303 "2008-12-26T16:56:56Z")

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And stop saying fucking ‘Lol’ like you’re in some teen chatroom or something.

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**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-accuse-what-exit-of-being-a-liar/478352/304 "2008-12-26T17:08:47Z")

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> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#):
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> **brazil84** , are you constitutionally capable of _not_ being the last poster in threads like this? Every time I go past the BBQ Pit page, if I don’t see you listed as the last poster in this thread, all I have to do is wait a bit before you turn up.

Well, acording to his, eh logic, if he leaves the thread he lost the argument, so he keeps going and going and going… until everyone else is bored out of their minds and he can claim victory over the barren battlefield.

Kind of reminds me of that scene in Dracula: Dead and Loving It, with Leslie Nielsen and Mel Brooks trying to have the last word.

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**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-accuse-what-exit-of-being-a-liar/478352/305 "2008-12-26T17:21:52Z")

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> [@pkd88](#):
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> brazil84, do you think that there was a secret meeting where everyone voted to pick on you?

No.

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> Do you think EVERYONE is complaining about you as a joke?

No.

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> All of these people are making the same comments about your posts, threads and debates yet you are the only one who doesn’t get it.

I’m not sure what comments you are referring to. I dealt with the nitpicking accusation a few posts back.

Please spell out exactly what criticism you mean and I will tell you if I think it’s justified.

Or is that too pedantic?

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-accuse-what-exit-of-being-a-liar/478352/306 "2008-12-26T17:31:48Z")

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Take your own advice:

> [@brazil84](#):
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> Try reading the thread.

You can’t miss 'em, trust me.

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**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-accuse-what-exit-of-being-a-liar/478352/307 "2008-12-26T17:37:00Z")

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> [@Q.E.D](#):
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> Take your own advice:

Believe me, I try.

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**Author:** ![Dante](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dante/32/9673_2.png) [@Dante](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dante)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-accuse-what-exit-of-being-a-liar/478352/308 "2008-12-26T17:43:10Z")

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Wait, are you saying you’re reading this thread and **not** seeing criticisms other than nitpicking?

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**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-accuse-what-exit-of-being-a-liar/478352/309 "2008-12-26T17:47:32Z")

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> [@Dante](#):
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> Wait, are you saying you’re reading this thread and **not** seeing criticisms other than nitpicking?

No, I’m seeing lots of different criticisms.

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**Author:** ![pkd88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/2bfe46/32.png) [@pkd88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkd88)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-accuse-what-exit-of-being-a-liar/478352/310 "2008-12-26T17:49:46Z")

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> [@brazil84](#):
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> No.  
> Please spell out exactly what criticism you mean and I will tell you if I think it’s justified.

The problem is that you are applying your own logic and thought process to this. Stop it. Your filters are broken and you are wrong.

How does the saying go? “When everyone tells you you are drunk, you sit down.”  
I am sorry but you are wrong on this. All of these people are just being honest with you.

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**Author:** ![Dante](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dante/32/9673_2.png) [@Dante](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dante)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-accuse-what-exit-of-being-a-liar/478352/311 "2008-12-26T17:50:28Z")

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> [@brazil84](#):
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> I’m not sure what comments you are referring to. I dealt with the nitpicking accusation a few posts back.

Then what did you mean by this?

You weren’t…LYING…were you!?

_cue dramatic music and lightning strike_

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**Author:** ![AngryIrishLass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bbce88/32.png) [@AngryIrishLass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngryIrishLass)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-accuse-what-exit-of-being-a-liar/478352/312 "2008-12-26T18:09:12Z")

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Oh goodie. Yet another rabbit hole for brazil to sink his teeth into.

I figued the SUV one would have gone on longer.

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**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-accuse-what-exit-of-being-a-liar/478352/313 "2008-12-26T18:16:29Z")

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> [@pkd88](#):
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> The problem is that you are applying your own logic and thought process to this. Stop it. Your filters are broken and you are wrong.
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> How does the saying go? “When everyone tells you you are drunk, you sit down.”

As I asked you before, why should I have any respect for you given that you continually evade my questions? I try to answer your questions, and yet you evade mine. What does that mean?

What does it mean that I admit it promptly when I make a mistake, while many posters do not? What does it mean that I conceded – in this thread – that **What Exit** may have been acting in good faith when he accused me of misquoting him? (and by extension, accusing me of being a liar)? And yet, as far as I can tell, **What Exit** has made no such concession about my accusation.

You should consider the possibility that I’m sober and you are drunk. So to speak.

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**Author:** ![pkd88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/2bfe46/32.png) [@pkd88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkd88)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-accuse-what-exit-of-being-a-liar/478352/314 "2008-12-26T18:22:50Z")

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> [@brazil84](#):
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> As I asked you before, why should I have any respect for you given that you continually evade my questions? I try to answer your questions, and yet you evade mine. What does that mean?
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> What does it mean that I admit it promptly when I make a mistake, while many posters do not? What does it mean that I conceded – in this thread – that **What Exit** may have been acting in good faith when he accused me of misquoting him? (and by extension, accusing me of being a liar)? And yet, as far as I can tell, **What Exit** has made no such concession about my accusation.
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> You should consider the possibility that I’m sober and you are drunk. So to speak.

Are you on medication?

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**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-accuse-what-exit-of-being-a-liar/478352/315 "2008-12-26T18:27:21Z")

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> [@pkd88](#):
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> Are you on medication?

No. Are you?

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-accuse-what-exit-of-being-a-liar/478352/316 "2008-12-26T18:42:04Z")

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> [@brazil84](#):
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> No, I’m seeing lots of different criticisms.

They’re all the same criticism: “You. Are. A. Douchecrust.” Just with, y’know, alternate phrase-y-ology.

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**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-accuse-what-exit-of-being-a-liar/478352/317 "2008-12-26T18:51:34Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> They’re all the same criticism: “You. Are. A. Douchecrust.” Just with, y’know, alternate phrase-y-ology.

If “Douchecrust” means “fiercely argumentative and willing to argue tenaciously against popular views, passionately held,” then yes, I plead guilty to Douchecrustery in the first degree.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-accuse-what-exit-of-being-a-liar/478352/318 "2008-12-26T18:53:18Z")

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> [@brazil84](#):
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> If “Douchecrust” means “fiercely argumentative and willing to argue tenaciously against popular views, passionately held,” then yes, I plead guilty to Douchecrustery in the first degree.

Your dictionary is outdated, I’m afraid.

I’m bowing out of my discussion with you, because not only do I think you’re resorting to counterproductive argumentation, but I think any effort to get you to see that is doomed to failure.

Either the vast majority of the rest of the world is drunk, or you are.

Daniel

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-accuse-what-exit-of-being-a-liar/478352/319 "2008-12-26T19:57:38Z")

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> [@brazil84](#):
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> :Look, when you opened a pit thread about **Leander** , I don’t think it was babyish. He repeatedly posted jabs about google and you eventually called him out on it. It’s a normal reaction. If you want to call it a “temper tantrum,” then fine.

No, see, there are subtle differences which you might discover if you compare the two threads. Much like you, however, **leander** was utterly incapable of admitting (or even apparently realizing) when he was defeated.

In the end, you both look like jackasses.

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-accuse-what-exit-of-being-a-liar/478352/320 "2008-12-26T19:58:57Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> Either the vast majority of the rest of the world is drunk, or you are.

Dude, even drunk I could debate rings around this guy on his best day.

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