# I Accuse What Exit of Being a Liar **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 22, 2008, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-accuse-what-exit-of-being-a-liar/478352 "2008-12-22T19:33:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Enola\_Gay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ab097/32.png) [@Enola\_Gay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Gay)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-accuse-what-exit-of-being-a-liar/478352/101 "2008-12-22T21:48:00Z")
> [@xtisme](#): > > All this talk of baking…I could really go for some pan de huevo right now. > > -XT That reminds me, I’ve been craving huevos rancheros for over a week now. I need to get to a Mexican restaurant that serves breakfast all day. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-accuse-what-exit-of-being-a-liar/478352/102 "2008-12-22T21:52:40Z")
> [@SmartAleq](#): > > … **'luci,** do I owe you one of these for that comment? Two big hairy guys with a big dead fish? Ah, no, I like the guys with titties that smell good. Able to type in the midst of hot monkey love? A _major_ bonus! ---
**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-accuse-what-exit-of-being-a-liar/478352/103 "2008-12-22T21:56:04Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Two big hairy guys with a big dead fish? Ah, no, I like the guys with titties that smell good. Able to type in the midst of hot monkey love? A _major_ bonus! Perhaps a bonus to _you_, but less than complimentary to the co-conspirator, wouldn’t you say? 😛 On the internets, nobody knows you type rhythmically… ---
**Author:** ![Cluricaun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cluricaun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cluricaun)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-accuse-what-exit-of-being-a-liar/478352/104 "2008-12-22T22:02:26Z")
This thread is now about breakdancing. Robot like a mofo. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-accuse-what-exit-of-being-a-liar/478352/105 "2008-12-22T22:03:14Z")
But all that really matters is, do you like your haircut? ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-accuse-what-exit-of-being-a-liar/478352/106 "2008-12-22T22:06:56Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Loath as I am to defend him, I’ll pick this nit. What he did arguably wasn’t misquoting you, since the dependent clause “that everything I have cited has been refuted” wasn’t marked by punctuation or VB code as a quote. Lol. Thanks, I guess. > [@](#): > > Rather, it was dishonestly paraphrasing you. At worst, it was an inadvertent omission. Check out post #233 in that thread, which I made **before** I was accused of misquoting anyone. I said this: > [@](#): > > Of course it supports my position. Other people in this thread have tried to defend Gore’s behavior by arguing that his choice was between selling the house and staying there. Actually, there was another choice, which was not buying the house in the first place. If I had been trying to dishonestly pretend that **What Exit** had not used his qualifier, I would not have argued that the cite in question supported my position. Perhaps one could debate over whether the cite in question supported my position, but clearly I was arguing against the best reasonable interpretation of **What Exit** ’s claim. ---
**Author:** ![regginbrow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ba9def/32.png) [@regginbrow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/regginbrow)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-accuse-what-exit-of-being-a-liar/478352/107 "2008-12-22T22:19:54Z")
Thank you for starting this thread **brazil84**. I really needed a good laugh today. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-accuse-what-exit-of-being-a-liar/478352/108 "2008-12-22T22:22:42Z")
**What Exit?** used the term “misquoted” in good faith, istm. His terminology was probably more efficient than saying > [@](#): > > Hypothetically posted by **What Exit?** > The lie you posted was > > > [@](#): > > > > You are the one who is claiming that everything I have cited has been refuted. > > I did not claim that. I posted: > > > [@](#): > > > > You have provided no cites that support your position that others have not refuted. > > To state that the more broad statement is identical to the more narrow statement is to lie. It is not a personal attack to point that out; at least, it isn’t considered to be one now. Things may change around the middle of December."\* Anyway, even if it was inaccurate enough to make the word “misquoted” invalid, the fact that it was in good faith means that the exchange is not a valid example of **What Exit?** posting a lie (as is claimed in the OP. [\* 😉](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=448632) ETA: And **brazil84** , even if you the other bit about the house does support your position (I’m not taking a position on that), it doesn’t mean that you didn’t lie by broadening his actual assertion. ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-accuse-what-exit-of-being-a-liar/478352/109 "2008-12-22T22:22:50Z")
I think some light has dawned on this. This thread only makes sense IF **brazil84** is… Governor Rod Blagojevich! Now I get it. The same stalwart steadfastness. The same one note argument. The same blind arrogance that flashes quickly and then falls in embers into the cyber void… ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-accuse-what-exit-of-being-a-liar/478352/110 "2008-12-22T22:24:48Z")
> [@Hi\_Neighbor](#): > > The OP can only be described as irrational, neurotic, and self-destructive. Not true. He can be described as: 1. A less than intelligent sufferer of actualized Oedipal urges. 2. A goat felching tulip. 3. A road-kill licking waste of genetic material. Or various other unpleasant or undesirable things. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-accuse-what-exit-of-being-a-liar/478352/111 "2008-12-22T22:28:20Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > **What Exit?** used the term “misquoted” in good faith, istm. Upon reviewing the thread, I think you are right. What he really meant to say is that I had not stated his position correctly. Especially given my statement in post 233, he should not have assumed that I did so intentionally, since I argued against his stated position as opposed to some invented strawman. But there it is. > [@](#): > > Anyway, even if it was inaccurate enough to make the word “misquoted” invalid, the fact that it was in good faith means that the exchange is not a valid example of **What Exit?** posting a lie Having reviewed the thread, I think you are right to an extent. However, at this point he knows that I did not misquote him and the honest thing to do would have been to admit it. ---
**Author:** ![MTRG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71c47a/32.png) [@MTRG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MTRG)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-accuse-what-exit-of-being-a-liar/478352/112 "2008-12-22T22:36:34Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Or various other unpleasant or undesirable things. like the visual organ of the graceful Odocoileus virginianus, male of course ---
**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-accuse-what-exit-of-being-a-liar/478352/113 "2008-12-22T22:52:34Z")
> [@MTRG](#): > > like the visual organ of the graceful Odocoileus virginianus, male of course Just HAD to go there, d’in’t ya? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-accuse-what-exit-of-being-a-liar/478352/114 "2008-12-22T22:56:57Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > At worst, it was an inadvertent omission. Given how you titled this thread, I’m afraid I’m not eager to extend to you the benefit of the doubt. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-accuse-what-exit-of-being-a-liar/478352/115 "2008-12-22T22:57:55Z")
I have read the original thread and this one carefully and have discovered three things: - it was perfectly clear what **What Exit** meant - **brazil84** is an obsessive fool - I wasted 10 minutes on this absurdity ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-accuse-what-exit-of-being-a-liar/478352/116 "2008-12-22T22:58:10Z")
To paraphrase: I dinna think that word (a.k.a. ‘liar’) means what (the OP) thinks it means… -XT ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-accuse-what-exit-of-being-a-liar/478352/117 "2008-12-22T23:01:37Z")
I think we are now seeing the violence inherent in the system… ---
**Author:** ![Bumbershoot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bumbershoot/32/3428_2.png) [@Bumbershoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bumbershoot)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-accuse-what-exit-of-being-a-liar/478352/118 "2008-12-22T23:06:48Z")
> [@pbbth](#): > > I, in fact, have a loaf of banana bread on my desk right now! I will gladly share with dopers in my general area. This is absolutely amazing! I, too, have a loaf of banana bread on my desk! ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-accuse-what-exit-of-being-a-liar/478352/119 "2008-12-22T23:16:16Z")
> [@SmartAleq](#): > > … **'luci,** do I owe you one of these for that comment? Two big hairy guys with a big dead fish? Ah, no, I like the guys with titties that smell good. Able to type in the midst of hot monkey love? A _major_ bonus! ---
**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-accuse-what-exit-of-being-a-liar/478352/120 "2008-12-22T23:18:10Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Two big hairy guys with a big dead fish? Ah, no, I like the guys with titties that smell good. Able to type in the midst of hot monkey love? A _major_ bonus! You already said that, dude! 😛 Is tabbed browsing not your friend today? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-accuse-what-exit-of-being-a-liar/478352.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-accuse-what-exit-of-being-a-liar/478352.md?page=7)