# I admire you for defeating cancer, not for a fucking bike race!

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 29, 2002, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-admire-you-for-defeating-cancer-not-for-a-fucking-bike-race/121441 "2002-07-29T22:44:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mojo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Mojo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mojo)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2002, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-admire-you-for-defeating-cancer-not-for-a-fucking-bike-race/121441/41 "2002-07-30T22:50:10Z")

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To paraphrase the OP- I admire Superdude for being able to operate a computer (hooray for special ed!), not for fucking posting his shite opinions.

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**Author:** ![Narile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71c47a/32.png) [@Narile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Narile)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2002, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-admire-you-for-defeating-cancer-not-for-a-fucking-bike-race/121441/42 "2002-07-31T00:38:57Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Coldfire \*
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> As for your definition of “real” sports, well, what can I say. Certainly, your average 400 lb., 75 IQ American football player isn’t a “true American Hero”, I hope. \*\*

Am going to take a bit of an exception at this one, not the calling them a hero part, cause there I agree with you, Heros are not generally sports figures.

That said, I will mention that my sister taught three football players in her chemistry class this past year, Ohio States starting QB and two others…they were the smartest people in the class, which was an advanced chemistry class for science/engineering majors, not the one given to liberal arts majors. So I do take exception to the 75IQ remark, thank you.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2002, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-admire-you-for-defeating-cancer-not-for-a-fucking-bike-race/121441/43 "2002-07-31T00:50:33Z")

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“I coach a team of brest cancer survivors in Dragon Boat racing. They are remarkable people, and each and every one of them is a hero to me.”- **Muffin**

Did you write an article for err i think, “Physiotherapy” magazine? Same article mentioned CranioSacral?

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**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2002, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-admire-you-for-defeating-cancer-not-for-a-fucking-bike-race/121441/44 "2002-07-31T00:50:38Z")

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Also, and I do love Coldfire, but 56,000 wrongs don’t make a right. Just because he dissed cycling, doesn’t mean you have to paint football players with the ‘fat n stupid’ brush.

I love football, and it IS a real sport, and so is cycling.

j

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2002, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-admire-you-for-defeating-cancer-not-for-a-fucking-bike-race/121441/45 "2002-07-31T02:29:30Z")

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> Right. Because if someone isn’t funny or entertaining to YOU, it’s ok if they die of Cancer. I’m sure Tom’s mom, dad, brother, best friend and fiance at the time were rooting for him pretty hard.

Considering the way Tom Green treated his family, particularly his parents, on his TV show, I would not feel entirely comfortable making this assumption.

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**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2002, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-admire-you-for-defeating-cancer-not-for-a-fucking-bike-race/121441/46 "2002-07-31T03:46:59Z")

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> \*Originally posted by jarbabyj \*  
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> :rolleyes:
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> Right. Because if someone isn’t funny or entertaining to YOU, it’s ok if they die of Cancer. I’m sure Tom’s mom, dad, brother, best friend and fiance at the time were rooting for him pretty hard.
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> J \*\*

Jesus, he DID survive.

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2002, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-admire-you-for-defeating-cancer-not-for-a-fucking-bike-race/121441/47 "2002-07-31T05:03:09Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Snooooopy \*  
> \*\*Jesus, he DID survive. \*\*

hmm…somebody hasn’t been reading his Bible…

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**Author:** ![quixotic78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/3ab097/32.png) [@quixotic78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/quixotic78)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2002, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-admire-you-for-defeating-cancer-not-for-a-fucking-bike-race/121441/48 "2002-07-31T05:07:22Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Narile \*  
> \*\*That said, I will mention that my sister taught three football players in her chemistry class this past year, Ohio States starting QB and two others…they were the smartest people in the class, which was an advanced chemistry class for science/engineering majors, not the one given to liberal arts majors. So I do take exception to the 75IQ remark, thank you. \*\*

[hijack] I’m a grad student in chemistry at OSU, and I heard from somebody this very same thing – that Bellisari (the QB) was one of the smartest students in the class. I probably know your sister… if only I can remember who it was that told me the story!

Erg, this is going to keep me up tonight. [/hijack]

Quix

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**Author:** ![Mr.Cynical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ee59a6/32.png) [@Mr.Cynical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Cynical)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2002, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-admire-you-for-defeating-cancer-not-for-a-fucking-bike-race/121441/49 "2002-07-31T06:25:22Z")

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Ladies and Gentlemen,

Please keep in mind: This OP is brought to you by a man who _actually wears superman underoos_ as a fashion statement and identity tool.

Please, carry on.

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**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2002, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-admire-you-for-defeating-cancer-not-for-a-fucking-bike-race/121441/50 "2002-07-31T09:54:18Z")

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> \*Originally posted by jarbabyj \*  
> \*\*Also, and I do love Coldfire, but 56,000 wrongs don’t make a right. Just because he dissed cycling, doesn’t mean you have to paint football players with the ‘fat n stupid’ brush.
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> I love football, and it IS a real sport, and so is cycling.\*\*

Of course football’s a real sport. Hell, even _American_ football could be vaguely interpreted as a sportish activity. 😛

OK, OK, stop throwing things.

I realise that not all American football players are fat and stupid. But I **would** like to stress that winning the Tour de France requires a hell of lot more stamina, intelligence, suffering, and pure determination than, say, scoring the winning goal in the world cup final, or making that all important touchdown in the Superbowl. There’s just no comparison. Not a jab at American football, but an appreciation of cycling is what I intended. And since **Superdude** was talking about “REAL sports!”, I made a little extrapolation.

Chances are I’m right, and he really _would_ have more respect for a 400 pound American football defender than for a highly skilled and completely toned _athlete_ who has just won the worlds most gruesome bike race.

And I agree with the overall sentiment: no sportsman is a hero for winning in his discipline.

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**Author:** ![tsarina](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f4b2a3/32.png) [@tsarina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tsarina)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2002, 9:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-admire-you-for-defeating-cancer-not-for-a-fucking-bike-race/121441/51 "2002-07-31T09:56:02Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by jarbabyj \*  
> \*\* Just like Mr.Edible Underwear Maker isn’t an American Hero.  
> \*\*

You mean he’s NOT??? :eek:

Oh, and **pldennison** , my lactic acid buildup gets unbearable about 2 _minutes_ into a bike ride. Lance has my eternal admiration, you betcha.

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**Author:** ![Fiddle\_Peghead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddle_peghead/32/3506_2.png) [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2002, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-admire-you-for-defeating-cancer-not-for-a-fucking-bike-race/121441/52 "2002-07-31T19:09:12Z")

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I’ve got nothing to add about Superdude’s comments, but did anyone else notice this snippet from the “news crawl” at the bottom of MSNBC somewhere in the middle of the race? It consisted entirely of the following:

“After the (?) stage, three-time Tour de France winner Lance Armstrong is NOT in the lead.”

I know they try to be as brief as possible, but I found this funny as hell.

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**Author:** ![Narile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71c47a/32.png) [@Narile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Narile)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2002, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-admire-you-for-defeating-cancer-not-for-a-fucking-bike-race/121441/53 "2002-08-01T02:05:52Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by quixotic78 \*  
> \*\*  
> [hijack] I’m a grad student in chemistry at OSU, and I heard from somebody this very same thing – that Bellisari (the QB) was one of the smartest students in the class. I probably know your sister… if only I can remember who it was that told me the story!
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> Erg, this is going to keep me up tonight. [/hijack]
> 
> Quix \*\*

My sister graduated this past Spring, Megan Demers.

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**Author:** ![quixotic78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/3ab097/32.png) [@quixotic78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/quixotic78)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2002, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-admire-you-for-defeating-cancer-not-for-a-fucking-bike-race/121441/54 "2002-08-01T06:21:42Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Narile \*  
> \*\*My sister graduated this past Spring, Megan Demers. \*\*

Okay, it’s officially a small world. After all (heh), we both started grad school at the same time.

Freeeeeeeeeeeeeaky

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