# I admit I like Trump's "You're Fired!" context

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [March 8, 2016, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-admit-i-like-trumps-youre-fired-context/748261 "2016-03-08T05:31:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2016, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-admit-i-like-trumps-youre-fired-context/748261/1 "2016-03-08T05:31:41Z")

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Inspired from this bit, from [here](http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-03-07/the-week-the-republican-party-melted-down):

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> “If you had told me a year ago that the front-runner at this stage in the Republican campaign would be a supporter of Planned Parenthood, who says he doesn’t stand with Israel, who has a long record of supporting government-sponsored health care, I would say: on what planet would that be the Republican front-runner?” Rubio said during a question-and-answer session at CPAC. “We have to ask ourselves: why have we allowed that to happen?

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> Another troubling sign for Republicans is that endorsements from prominent party figures, who have successfully shaped the outcome of presidential primary contests for a half century, have fallen flat with voters this year.  
> An early lead in endorsements for Jeb Bush, who also brought in over $100 million to boost his campaign and super-PAC, amounted to little as he failed to crack the top three positions in the first three states and dropped out after South Carolina.  
> A flood of subsequent endorsements for Rubio failed to stave off crushing defeats to Trump in South Carolina (where he was backed by Governor Nikki Haley, Senator Tim Scott, and Representative Trey Gowdy) and in Nevada (where he was backed by Senator Dean Heller). Rubio finished a distant third in states after that despite endorsements in Kansas (from Governor Sam Brownback and Senator Pat Roberts) and Tennessee (from Governor Bill Haslam and Senator Lamar Alexander).

In a “normal” election year, endorsements from high-level politicians would carry a lot of weight with voters. This year they are the kiss of death. The voters do.not.want.the.GOP.establishment.

The last people the GOP establishment would endorse is Ted Cruz and especially Donald Trump. This year, that actually lends these candidates credibility. The scoring is like golf rather than baseball or football- the less establishment endorsements a candidate has, the better the score.

Why? Because voters want to get rid of the GOP establishment. They want them out of office- all of them. Before the midterms, a president Trump could say, “Look at all these losers who would not endorse me. Why wouldn’t they? Because they are the establishment, that’s why! Vote 'em out, vote 'em all out.” (Christie probably made the right move for his political survival in endorsing Trump. He sort of became a subordinate, but maybe he’ll have a political afterlife in a Trump administration. Surely not anywhere else). And a president Trump could go around the country to all of the districts of the establishment congresscritters and exhort the citizens there to vote them out. They’re fired, you see. It would be a grand political service to our nation and the world.

I strongly suspect all of this is just a fantasy. In reality, HR Clinton is the professional choice. Yes, she sure comes across as equivocal sometimes, but then again she is a professional politician at the highest level. The only other candidate in the whole race who can say that is Bernie Sanders (who has better ideas IMHO though perhaps less varied experience. Still, decades in the Senate = pro). Clinton’s untrustworthiness is also part of her qualification- she understands how to do this job. The Chinese can’t really trust her either. Absolutely not the GOP establishment, to an exquisite T. Not the Russians, certainly not N. Korea, the Saudis, ISIS or even the fucking Brits for that matter. She needs to explain to us in detail how she will avoid selling us all out to the banks and MegaCorps, but OTOH I do believe she will have a tendency to fight for the general public, even if it ultimately turns out to be for tarnished motives. Sanders is purer.

After that is Kasich. Once you get to this point on the professionalism scale, the quality of the platform proposed takes an across-the-board nosedive right into the shitter. Kasich represents the outer limit of candidates we can consider to be “at the highest level.”

Cruz is next, then Rubio. Trump is last, though he gets an asterisk because he does come across as a professional at whatever it is he is. He is mature as a businessman, whereas Cruz and especially Rubio aren’t fully mature as politicians.

If that “powerful outsider” thing really pushes your buttons, then Trump is your guy. But I think we want a professional at the helm of the nation during this dangerous era, so Bernie or, if we must, and, under more regulations, Hillary, are the better choices. Maybe there will be a way to keep Trump (and his heavy, Christie) around to get rid of the GOP in a Clinton administration.

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**Author:** ![Stringbean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Stringbean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringbean)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-admit-i-like-trumps-youre-fired-context/748261/2 "2016-03-09T00:44:22Z")

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Trump is more professional than Kasich??

Did I just log into Bizarro World!!??

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-admit-i-like-trumps-youre-fired-context/748261/3 "2016-03-09T00:49:02Z")

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> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#):
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> Cruz is next, then Rubio. Trump is last, though he gets an asterisk because he does come across as a professional at whatever it is he is. He is mature as a businessman, whereas Cruz and especially Rubio aren’t fully mature as politicians.

Wait, is there some new definition of ‘mature’ I’m unaware of?

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-admit-i-like-trumps-youre-fired-context/748261/4 "2016-03-09T05:25:15Z")

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> [@Stringbean](#):
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> Trump is more professional than Kasich??
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> Did I just log into Bizarro World!!??

I’m saying Trump is perhaps more accomplished in his career than Kasich is in his, though I think Kasich is a rather experienced politician.

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> Wait, is there some new definition of ‘mature’ I’m unaware of?

Rubio is a green senator, and Ted Cruz is no grizzled veteran like Sanders or Clinton. By comparison, Trump has been a celebrity rich guy for decades. He’s more mature in his career.

In terms of demeanor and comportment, well, Trump and Rubio swap dick jabs at each other on national TV, so they’re on about the same low level. Cruz and Kasich are collected, adult-like Republicans. Sanders is a genuine geezer, and Hillary is no spring chicken either, and they both act like they’ve grown because of their life experiences.
