# I admit it, I'm watching the Victoria's Secret Fashion Show **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 15, 2015, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-admit-it-im-watching-the-victorias-secret-fashion-show/740487 "2015-12-15T01:53:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-admit-it-im-watching-the-victorias-secret-fashion-show/740487/1 "2015-12-15T01:53:32Z")
The women are on average MUCH better looking than than the average beauty pageant entrant. I’d also say they are about 200% more pouty. No bullshit talent contests, answering questions about world peace, world hunger, or thinking of the children. Just skin and lingerie. Though there were a ton of outfits with wings or feathers, so they are apparently birdlike angels? I suppose the producers decided that it was necessary to distinguish between what would otherwise be an endless procession of just bras and panties. I woulda been okay with that. ---
**Author:** ![Nema98](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d2c977/32.png) [@Nema98](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nema98)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-admit-it-im-watching-the-victorias-secret-fashion-show/740487/2 "2015-12-15T03:51:04Z")
Is it tonight? OP I agree with you, the women look good. No shame in anyone watching it, I sure will be. Hell I am a straight guy. ---
**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-admit-it-im-watching-the-victorias-secret-fashion-show/740487/3 "2015-12-15T04:14:12Z")
The cliche of the fashion show is that it’s a bunch of stupid crap worn by women chosen for their resemblance to coat hangers. If anyone was going to avoid doing that and give us something worth watching, it would be Victoria’s Secret. ---
**Author:** ![actualliberalnotoneofthose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e79b87/32.png) [@actualliberalnotoneofthose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/actualliberalnotoneofthose)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-admit-it-im-watching-the-victorias-secret-fashion-show/740487/4 "2015-12-15T06:46:17Z")
IMHO, even VS models seem to be a little too skin and bones and lack well-placed feminine fat storage. Maybe it’s just fond nostalgia, but it seemed like the ones I used to, uh, look at back in the 1990s were softer and a little more naturally curvy. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-admit-it-im-watching-the-victorias-secret-fashion-show/740487/5 "2015-12-15T14:28:23Z")
The show is well done. The models move out and back on stage quickly with lots of camera changes so we don’t notice so much that it’s a bunch of skeletons wearing lingerie. I just imagine those are real women wearing almost nothing. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-admit-it-im-watching-the-victorias-secret-fashion-show/740487/6 "2015-12-15T15:33:26Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > The show is well done. The models move out and back on stage quickly with lots of camera changes so we don’t notice so much that it’s a bunch of skeletons wearing lingerie. I just imagine those are real women wearing almost nothing. Why would you watch if you don’t find the women attractive? Just google up some Lane Bryant lingerie and enjoy yourself. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-admit-it-im-watching-the-victorias-secret-fashion-show/740487/7 "2015-12-15T15:56:31Z")
I do find them attractive, until they pause for too long and I can see the protruding bones and outlines of their atrophied organs behind their skin. It’s not all of them, but anorexia may make them into excellent clothes hangers but also makes them look better with their clothes on, not what I find appealing about a woman’s body. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-admit-it-im-watching-the-victorias-secret-fashion-show/740487/8 "2015-12-15T16:05:37Z")
So you find them attractive until you get a good look at them and imagine you are seeing their atrophied organs. You might have issues, dude. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-admit-it-im-watching-the-victorias-secret-fashion-show/740487/9 "2015-12-15T19:57:03Z")
> [@Grumman](#): > > The cliche of the fashion show is that it’s a bunch of stupid crap worn by women chosen for their resemblance to coat hangers. If anyone was going to avoid doing that and give us something worth watching, it would be Victoria’s Secret. It’s not just the skin-and-boniness I find off-putting; they’re just such blank slates when they’re modelling.[sup]\*[/sup] These may be delightful, charming women in real life, but the standards of a fashion show seem to demand that they put their personalities in cold storage for the duration. - I should say that I didn’t watch the show this year, or any year. I’ve just seen enough clips and previews of such things that I know not to bother. If the fashion industry has changed and lets the models cut loose a little bit, feel free to correct me. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-admit-it-im-watching-the-victorias-secret-fashion-show/740487/10 "2015-12-15T20:22:51Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > It’s not just the skin-and-boniness I find off-putting; they’re just such blank slates when they’re modelling.[sup]\*[/sup] These may be delightful, charming women in real life, but the standards of a fashion show seem to demand that they put their personalities in cold storage for the duration. … I’d say this wasn’t the case for this show. The women are “supermodels” whose names we are supposedly supposed to know. They project a whole lot more personality than the generally anonymous pageant contestants. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-admit-it-im-watching-the-victorias-secret-fashion-show/740487/11 "2015-12-15T20:44:58Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > They project a whole lot more personality than the generally anonymous pageant contestants. I guess I find the two cases about equal on the artificiality scale; pageant contests go for the classical-flute-and-reading-to-orphans ideal, while models are after a nothing-to-see-in-my-eyes-just-look-at-the-clothes thing. That’s true even for supermodels, when they’re supermodelling. ETA: Although, I did say to correct me. I just haven’t seen it in any of the previews. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-admit-it-im-watching-the-victorias-secret-fashion-show/740487/12 "2015-12-15T21:00:46Z")
No, I’d say there is attitude is more brash bratty and arrogant. They WANT you to look at them, like they think they make the clothes look better and not the other way around. And they’re right.