# I admit it that I fucked up. Unintentionally. And I did something naive to begin with.

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 15, 2011, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-admit-it-that-i-fucked-up-unintentionally-and-i-did-something-naive-to-begin-with/606255 "2011-12-15T00:43:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![expectopatronum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/expectopatronum/32/173_2.png) [@expectopatronum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/expectopatronum)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-admit-it-that-i-fucked-up-unintentionally-and-i-did-something-naive-to-begin-with/606255/41 "2011-12-16T02:47:43Z")

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so now we have two ongoing pit threads as well as a multi page atmb thread that was just locked, with bonus input from **TubaDiva** and **Ed Zotti**.

opal, can you at least now admit that [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=630519) was total bullshit?

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-admit-it-that-i-fucked-up-unintentionally-and-i-did-something-naive-to-begin-with/606255/42 "2011-12-16T02:49:39Z")

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> [@TubaDiva](#):
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> Since the contents of this thread has been reposted elsewhere, there’s really no reason to keep this off the board, so we are returning it to view.
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> However, it is too contentious for MPSIMS and so we are moving it to the Pit.

The final resolution of all of this was very well handled. Thank you.

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**Author:** ![Alice\_The\_Goon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Alice\_The\_Goon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alice_The_Goon)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-admit-it-that-i-fucked-up-unintentionally-and-i-did-something-naive-to-begin-with/606255/43 "2011-12-16T02:51:26Z")

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I agree that the right decision was made. That said, could we change the name of the place to The Opal Dope Message Board? Because that is what it has become.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-admit-it-that-i-fucked-up-unintentionally-and-i-did-something-naive-to-begin-with/606255/44 "2011-12-16T02:53:29Z")

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I thought Ed’s post in particular was spot on. He reinforced what most us already believed to be true.

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**Author:** ![Peeta\_Mellark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bc8723/32.png) [@Peeta\_Mellark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peeta_Mellark)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-admit-it-that-i-fucked-up-unintentionally-and-i-did-something-naive-to-begin-with/606255/45 "2011-12-16T02:56:18Z")

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Thank you to **TubaDiva** and **Ed**. The clarifications are greatly appreciated. I’m really impressed with how this has now been handled.

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**Author:** ![Sierra\_Indigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@Sierra\_Indigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sierra_Indigo)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-admit-it-that-i-fucked-up-unintentionally-and-i-did-something-naive-to-begin-with/606255/46 "2011-12-16T02:59:32Z")

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It’s good to know we weren’t imagining the idea of “Posters own their posts”

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**Author:** ![splatterpunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@splatterpunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/splatterpunk)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-admit-it-that-i-fucked-up-unintentionally-and-i-did-something-naive-to-begin-with/606255/47 "2011-12-16T03:09:33Z")

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> [@Peeta\_Mellark](#):
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> Thank you to **TubaDiva** and **Ed**. The clarifications are greatly appreciated. I’m really impressed with how this has now been handled.

Agreed. But for fuck’s sake, was it really necessary for **Marley** to expend all that effort in the ATMB thread “defending” the original decision? Perhaps a quick “Sorry guys; this one is kinda ticklish, so we’re gonna take some time to discuss it for a bit and decide the best course of action.”-type post would have been more productive.

This is a perfect example of the style of moderation that leads to accusations of wagon-circling.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-admit-it-that-i-fucked-up-unintentionally-and-i-did-something-naive-to-begin-with/606255/48 "2011-12-16T03:12:23Z")

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I like corn tortillas with my soft tacos. At most Tex-Mex places you have to ask, because they’ll assume you want flour tortillas by default. A good, authentic taco should consist of two small steamed corn tortillas with a good portion—but not TOO much—filling. A meat of choice (I’m partial to _lengua_ and _barbacoa_… never thought I’d be a fan of tongue, but man is it good in a taco), some fresh cilantro, onions if that’s your thing, and a dash of sauce, maybe a good _tomatillo_ green sauce, and that’s it. Don’t overkill with cheese and sour cream and the like. Not to denigrate Tex-Mex… I like a good plate of nachos. Like experimenting with the nacho concept at home, too. Unusual ingredients. Fun to play around with, hard to mess up. Too bad people aren’t more like nachos, eh?

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**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-admit-it-that-i-fucked-up-unintentionally-and-i-did-something-naive-to-begin-with/606255/49 "2011-12-16T03:14:15Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Too bad people aren’t more like nachos, eh?

My thoughts every time I’m in a crowded elevator at lunch time.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-admit-it-that-i-fucked-up-unintentionally-and-i-did-something-naive-to-begin-with/606255/50 "2011-12-16T03:49:42Z")

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I’ve used a 100% foolproof method for not having naked pictures of me discovered on the internet - I haven’t put any naked pictures of me on the internet.

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-admit-it-that-i-fucked-up-unintentionally-and-i-did-something-naive-to-begin-with/606255/51 "2011-12-16T04:01:27Z")

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**Cat Whisperer** : well, we can always use the “fake” method of pasting your head onto the body of a nude figure. People are getting better and better at this. The old-style cut-and-paste job wasn’t very convincing at all, but with advanced Photoshop filters, even experts sometimes can’t agree if a pic is faked or not.

Of course, when it’s Ronald Reagan’s head pasted onto Miss January’s body, it won’t be all that convincing…

edited to add: flour tortillas, man! Always! Hotcha yum! Corn tortillas are ok, but they tend either to be mushy and soggy, or too crisp and fragile.

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**Author:** ![Clockwork\_Jackal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5e925/32.png) [@Clockwork\_Jackal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clockwork_Jackal)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-admit-it-that-i-fucked-up-unintentionally-and-i-did-something-naive-to-begin-with/606255/52 "2011-12-16T04:02:17Z")

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> [@Crotalus](#):
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> Please leave here, never post again, and seek help.

And buy your son more than a $30 necklace for Christmas, for fucks sake!

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**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-admit-it-that-i-fucked-up-unintentionally-and-i-did-something-naive-to-begin-with/606255/53 "2011-12-16T04:23:06Z")

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> [@OpalCat](#):
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> …it takes a certain kind of person to go to the effort of finding those kinds of images, and the same or worse kind of person (really, truly, on the inside karmic level) …

I know someone who broke into someone else’s web files and deleted every single web page (dozens, all painstakingly hand-coded), as well as every single image on them that hundreds of people were enjoying, and had a good laugh over it behind the person’s back. Do you think a certain kind of person like that would be subject to any “karmic” activity?

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-admit-it-that-i-fucked-up-unintentionally-and-i-did-something-naive-to-begin-with/606255/54 "2011-12-16T04:29:40Z")

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Luckily, the last time my naked penis pictures got public attention, everyone blamed Bret Favre.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-admit-it-that-i-fucked-up-unintentionally-and-i-did-something-naive-to-begin-with/606255/55 "2011-12-16T04:36:59Z")

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> [@akennett](#):
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> Um, the only person posting the pics was Opal. On an easily accessible website. One used by other people to host pictures as well (judging by the \<name’s\>pics folders).
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> Indeed. Especially since the mega-super-secret hacker skillz needed to uncover these secured photos was to click the link to a picture, think “Maybe the years haven’t been kind. I wonder if there are other pics”, delete the URL bits back to [www.opalspics.com/gallery/albums](http://www.opalspics.com/gallery/albums) or whatever it was and click on pictures from there.

I still say bullshit. If I leave my keys in my unlocked car then it makes it easy for people to steal it. It’s dumb of me to do that. But the fact that I made it easy to steal my car doesn’t mean that it’s okay to do it. The person who steals my car is still wrong.

Did anyone really think that editing URL’s (which appears to be what happened) was a normal means of scrolling through pictures on the website? Of course not. They were looking for pictures that were clearly not on display.

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**Author:** ![Peeta\_Mellark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bc8723/32.png) [@Peeta\_Mellark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peeta_Mellark)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-admit-it-that-i-fucked-up-unintentionally-and-i-did-something-naive-to-begin-with/606255/56 "2011-12-16T04:48:15Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Did anyone really think that editing URL’s (which appears to be what happened) was a normal means of scrolling through pictures on the website? Of course not. They were looking for pictures that were clearly not on display.

Editing URLs isn’t some unusual or arcane practice. It’s pretty standard. “Hmm, I like this picture and I see it’s in an /images directory. I think I’ll go back to that and see if there’s an index.” Say somebody sent me this [The resemblance is uncanny. - Imgur](http://imgur.com/gallery/8rmvI) and so I was taken to a specific picture, but I wanted to explore the rest of the site. So I hit the backspace button to delete the URL back to [Imgur: The magic of the Internet](http://imgur.com/gallery/) and lo and behold, I found a gallery. Easier than finding a link to click.

Whatever pain, embarrassment, or trauma **Opal** has suffered from this, I truly feel sorry for her. I don’t like people hurting. There’s no reason to pretend everyone who uses the web is retarded, though.

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**Author:** ![Taters](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/taters/32/2845_2.png) [@Taters](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taters)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-admit-it-that-i-fucked-up-unintentionally-and-i-did-something-naive-to-begin-with/606255/57 "2011-12-16T04:58:19Z")

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> [@Shayna](#):
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> I know someone who broke into someone else’s web files and deleted every single web page (dozens, all painstakingly hand-coded), as well as every single image on them that hundreds of people were enjoying, and had a good laugh over it behind the person’s back. Do you think a certain kind of person like that would be subject to any “karmic” activity?

Okay, I’m curious. And the reason I’m curious is because my interpretation of this statement is…better left unsaid I think.

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**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-admit-it-that-i-fucked-up-unintentionally-and-i-did-something-naive-to-begin-with/606255/58 "2011-12-16T05:10:53Z")

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> [@Shayna](#):
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> I know someone who broke into someone else’s web files and deleted every single web page (dozens, all painstakingly hand-coded), as well as every single image on them that hundreds of people were enjoying, and had a good laugh over it behind the person’s back. Do you think a certain kind of person like that would be subject to any “karmic” activity?

IIRC it was more than dozens, I thought there were well over a hundred, maybe a couple hundred.

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**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-admit-it-that-i-fucked-up-unintentionally-and-i-did-something-naive-to-begin-with/606255/59 "2011-12-16T05:23:25Z")

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> [@Taters](#):
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> Okay, I’m curious. And the reason I’m curious is because my interpretation of this statement is…better left unsaid I think.

Perhaps OpalCat would like to explain it to you. If she refuses, I’ll explain it myself. But let’s give her a chance first. After all, I’ve heard she’s changed.

> [@Una\_Persson](#):
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> IIRC it was more than dozens, I thought there were well over a hundred, maybe a couple hundred.

You’re probably right that it was over a hundred. Could’ve been more, but I don’t think it approached hundreds, plural. But it was a lot.

And having a personal server to store backups on was a luxury that most people had no access to back in the day. There was also no such thing as “clouds.” There were at least 2 years worth of work that was intentionally sabotaged.

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**Author:** ![Clockwork\_Jackal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5e925/32.png) [@Clockwork\_Jackal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clockwork_Jackal)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-admit-it-that-i-fucked-up-unintentionally-and-i-did-something-naive-to-begin-with/606255/60 "2011-12-16T05:27:21Z")

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What the hell did she do?

And why is this only coming out now?

And where the hell is my eyebrow raisy smiley when I need it?

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