# I already didn't like Elizabeth Dole. . . .

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-already-didnt-like-elizabeth-dole/470125>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 29, 2008, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-already-didnt-like-elizabeth-dole/470125 "2008-10-29T18:23:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-already-didnt-like-elizabeth-dole/470125/21 "2008-10-29T20:54:32Z")

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I heard she totally supports Woman’s suffrage, that’s right she has no problem with the suffering of women.

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**Author:** ![Sinaijon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@Sinaijon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sinaijon)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-already-didnt-like-elizabeth-dole/470125/22 "2008-10-29T21:41:58Z")

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Ha! How dare she call the money Godless when it comes from a group called ‘Godless Americans’.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-already-didnt-like-elizabeth-dole/470125/23 "2008-10-29T21:57:37Z")

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Try to keep up here, **Sinaijon**. The specific problem is not with the Dole ad calling the “Godless Americans PAC” money “godless”, but with the attempt to make the group sound evil and sinister, based on absolutely jack-shit except the word “godless” (oooo!! scary!!) in its name.

If a candidate made a similar ad about a rival candidate’s “secret meeting” with a “Jewish Americans PAC”, attempting to raise fears about what that candidate “promised in return” for that “Jewish money”, that would be bigoted scaremongering. And so is this.

Non-religious Americans are getting pretty fucking tired of being treated like Teh Evil by a bunch of narrow-minded bigots, and that narrow-minded bigotry is exactly what the Dole campaign is pandering to here.

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**Author:** ![Gala\_Matrix\_Fire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4da419/32.png) [@Gala\_Matrix\_Fire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gala_Matrix_Fire)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-already-didnt-like-elizabeth-dole/470125/24 "2008-10-29T22:01:42Z")

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She wants to put pedagogues in schools!

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-already-didnt-like-elizabeth-dole/470125/25 "2008-10-29T22:03:28Z")

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Where she plans to have kids matriculate!

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**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-already-didnt-like-elizabeth-dole/470125/26 "2008-10-29T22:05:20Z")

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Not only that, but she wants children in hospitals, \*in hospitals \*mind you, to be visited by pediatricians!

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-already-didnt-like-elizabeth-dole/470125/27 "2008-10-29T22:13:56Z")

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That woman in the black cloak in Dole’s ad is really, really scary.

The followup ad should feature those twins from _The Shining_ chanting "Come play with Kay Hagan…forever…and ever…

I wonder though - that response in which Hagan says that “This is politics of the worst kind, and I know it has been rejected by North Carolinians at every level.”

They have? Cite?

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-already-didnt-like-elizabeth-dole/470125/28 "2008-10-29T22:32:39Z")

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You do have to wonder, though, who’s idiotic enough, especially, in North Carolina, to take money from the “Godless Americans PAC”? Were “Americans for Al Qaeda” and “The Puppy Kickers Union” all tapped out?

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-already-didnt-like-elizabeth-dole/470125/29 "2008-10-29T22:44:49Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> I wonder though - that response in which Hagan says that “This is politics of the worst kind, and I know it has been rejected by North Carolinians at every level.”
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> They have? Cite?

Yeah, my guess is that’s pure wishful thinking on Hagan’s part. It’s be nice though.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-already-didnt-like-elizabeth-dole/470125/30 "2008-10-29T23:32:40Z")

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_never mind_

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**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-already-didnt-like-elizabeth-dole/470125/31 "2008-10-29T23:38:14Z")

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I hear her epidermis is showing.

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-already-didnt-like-elizabeth-dole/470125/32 "2008-10-29T23:39:23Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Wow! There really is a Godless Americans PAC! Man, what an opportunity for payoffs! How much money would a candidate pay to avoid being endorsed by them?

Who cares about that? How can I subscribe to their newletter?

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-already-didnt-like-elizabeth-dole/470125/33 "2008-10-29T23:55:33Z")

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> [@Sinaijon](#):
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> Ha! How dare she call the money Godless when it comes from a group called ‘Godless Americans’.

And let’s say, for the sake of argument, that it did. So?

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**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-already-didnt-like-elizabeth-dole/470125/34 "2008-10-29T23:55:35Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> Try to keep up here, **Sinaijon**.

If you want that guy to keep up you will need to buy him a jet assisted bigwheel to go with his helmet…

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-already-didnt-like-elizabeth-dole/470125/35 "2008-10-30T00:35:30Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Who cares about that? How can I subscribe to their newletter?

[http://www.godlessamericans.org/pacjoinus.php](http://www.godlessamericans.org/pacjoinus.php)

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-already-didnt-like-elizabeth-dole/470125/36 "2008-10-30T00:41:53Z")

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> [@LavenderBlue](#):
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> I hear her epidermis is showing.

Burkas for all!

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-already-didnt-like-elizabeth-dole/470125/37 "2008-10-30T00:46:49Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> Gee. I thought there was no religious test for public office. I guess I was wrong.

Try being chosen as the Republican VP without being a Protestant Christian (preferably a Creationist).

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-already-didnt-like-elizabeth-dole/470125/38 "2008-10-30T01:02:58Z")

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Ok. Let’s play a game.

1. Republican candidate Sarah Palin with her running mate Schlomo Horowitz, an Orthadox Jew from Brooklyn is up against an incumbent Barack Obama who has replaced Joe Biden on the ticket with Joe the Plumber who has since come out as a radical atheist. Who wins?

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**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-already-didnt-like-elizabeth-dole/470125/39 "2008-10-30T01:10:40Z")

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Yeah, well I heard Elizabeth Dole was a _sexagenarian_. Do we really want a person like that in the Senate?

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**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-already-didnt-like-elizabeth-dole/470125/40 "2008-10-30T01:20:11Z")

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> [@Baldwin](#):
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> Yeah, well I heard Elizabeth Dole was a _sexagenarian_. Do we really want a person like that in the Senate?

[Spinal Tap] What’s wrong with being sexagenarian? [/Spinal Tap]

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