# I already didn't like Elizabeth Dole. . . . **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 29, 2008, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-already-didnt-like-elizabeth-dole/470125 "2008-10-29T18:23:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Lambo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecc23a/32.png) [@Lambo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lambo)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-already-didnt-like-elizabeth-dole/470125/41 "2008-10-30T01:30:00Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > Ok. Let’s play a game. > > 1. Republican candidate Sarah Palin with her running mate Schlomo Horowitz, an Orthadox Jew from Brooklyn is up against an incumbent Barack Obama who has replaced Joe Biden on the ticket with Joe the Plumber who has since come out as a radical atheist. Who wins? The American People, that’s who. ---
**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-already-didnt-like-elizabeth-dole/470125/42 "2008-10-30T02:01:43Z")
Elizabeth Dole should be punished for this by having to suck off Bob Dole until he actually achieves an erection. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-already-didnt-like-elizabeth-dole/470125/43 "2008-10-30T02:05:35Z")
Interesting. But I’m against the death penalty. ---
**Author:** ![sinjin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@sinjin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sinjin)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-already-didnt-like-elizabeth-dole/470125/44 "2008-10-30T02:35:43Z")
Ok I’m offended by this commercial on the same level I’m offended by calling Obama a Muslim. Where is it written that you can’t be an American and a Muslim? Where is it written that you can’t be an American and an atheist. Why are we letting the radical right decide who is an American and who is not? Why do you have to defend yourself as a Christian Elder Sunday school teacher, even if that is true? We’re missing the fucking red elephant in the room here. Didn’t some other regime try this same tactic? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-already-didnt-like-elizabeth-dole/470125/45 "2008-10-30T02:36:03Z")
An interesting [ad](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQvw8rvcQxg) for…well, just voting. Dole needs to be on the bottom of that pig picture. ---
**Author:** ![brossa](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brossa/32/3040_2.png) [@brossa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brossa)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-already-didnt-like-elizabeth-dole/470125/46 "2008-10-30T03:21:49Z")
> [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](#): > > Quis fucket ipsos fuckers? My previous family motto has just been replaced. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-already-didnt-like-elizabeth-dole/470125/47 "2008-10-30T03:53:36Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > An interesting [ad](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQvw8rvcQxg) for…well, just voting. > > Dole needs to be on the bottom of that pig picture. Wow. Builds to total guffaw territory, and then the last guy (who was also the first)… Well. Damn. I’m of two minds whether that twist at the end was the right thing to do, but no question it’s a kick in the head. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-already-didnt-like-elizabeth-dole/470125/48 "2008-10-30T04:59:23Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > “Hello, Senator? Yes, my name is B. Abe Bugger, I’m the local fundraiser for NAMBLA. Yes, thats right, the man-boy love PAC, happy that you are aware of our efforts. Just a word to let you know that we are endorsing your campaign with a TV ad to run in your state and…what? Senator, please, calm down. Well, yes, we _had_ considered endorsing your opponent…well, yes, $50,000 would very likely change our…no, cash would be better, don’t you think? 2 PM, your office? I’m sure we can have somebody there, Senator, and thanks again for your…Senator? Senator?..” _LAUGH_ Stuff like this is why you’re my favorite SDMB poster. I always thought Lizzy was sane. Was she always insane and I never noticed or is this a recent thing? Did she, like McCain, get infected by the rabid right? She was head of the Red Cross at one point, wasn’t she? ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-already-didnt-like-elizabeth-dole/470125/49 "2008-10-30T12:35:01Z")
I just came in to say that, thanks to this thread, I got one more correct answer in Gail Collins “One Week to Go” quiz in the NY Times Op-Ed page. (5 out of 9, pretty lame, but better than 4 out of 9). Thanks to all of you! ---
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-already-didnt-like-elizabeth-dole/470125/50 "2008-10-30T14:12:29Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > Ok. Let’s play a game. > > 1. Republican candidate Sarah Palin with her running mate Schlomo Horowitz, an Orthadox Jew from Brooklyn is up against an incumbent Barack Obama who has replaced Joe Biden on the ticket with Joe the Plumber who has since come out as a radical atheist. Who wins? Ralph Nader and Ross Perot in a landslide! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-already-didnt-like-elizabeth-dole/470125/51 "2008-10-30T14:18:09Z")
> [@Death\_of\_Rats](#): > > Ralph Nader and Ross Perot in a landslide! 😃 That’s my dream come true! Wait… you mean an ‘electoral’ landslide, don’t you… :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-already-didnt-like-elizabeth-dole/470125/52 "2008-10-30T14:33:29Z")
> [@Sinaijon](#): > > Ha! How dare she call the money Godless when it comes from a group called ‘Godless Americans’. Except she didn’t take any money from this group. She attended a private fund raiser hosted by someone who had also raised funds for this group. In other words, she knows a guy who knows a guy. What I love is how Liddy’s spokesturd is swearing up and down that the ad doesn’t imply that Hagan is an atheist. I’m sure he’ll next be explaining how the color red isn’t really red. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-already-didnt-like-elizabeth-dole/470125/53 "2008-10-30T17:12:23Z")
I just realized that this is what’s behind McCain’s optimism. If the red states on the electoral map are actually blue states, then the blue states must be red states. Victory is at hand! ---
**Author:** ![anya\_marie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ebca7d/32.png) [@anya\_marie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anya_marie)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 8:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-already-didnt-like-elizabeth-dole/470125/54 "2008-10-31T08:52:25Z")
> **[Dole challenger irate over suggestion she is 'godless' - CNN.com](https://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/30/dole.ad/index.html?iref=mpstoryview)** > > Kay Hagan erupted in anger Thursday over a television ad from Sen. Elizabeth Dole suggesting Hagan is "godless." > [@](#): > > Hagan, who is challenging Dole’s re-election bid, filed an application in a Wake County, North Carolina, court Thursday, seeking permission to file a complaint within 20 days, after the election is over. ---
**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-already-didnt-like-elizabeth-dole/470125/55 "2008-10-31T12:04:51Z")
> [@](#): > > **Maus Magill** said: > What I love is how Liddy’s spokesturd is swearing up and down that the ad doesn’t imply that Hagan is an atheist. I’m sure he’ll next be explaining how the color red isn’t really red. I hope I live to see the day where nobody would use " ‘Atheist’ as an insult. No, scratch that, I hope I live to see the day where the accepted response to ‘My opponent is an atheist!’ isn’t ‘No I’m not!’ but ‘So what?’ Sadly, I don’t think I’m going to live that long. I still hope, of course, that some day it will be just as acceptable to be an atheist in this country as it is to be a theist. ---
**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-already-didnt-like-elizabeth-dole/470125/56 "2008-10-31T14:48:25Z")
Reminds me of the movie _The Best Man_, with the revered former President reflecting how, back in his day, “We had to spread a little God on everything, like ketchup.” (And that movie was in 1960. Why does this country keep taking backward steps?) ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-already-didnt-like-elizabeth-dole/470125/57 "2008-10-31T16:07:45Z")
Because what’s in front of us is _sca-a-a-a-a-a-ary?_ \ ---
**Author:** ![DanBlather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@DanBlather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DanBlather)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-already-didnt-like-elizabeth-dole/470125/58 "2008-10-31T19:13:53Z")
For both Elizabeth Dole and McCain did they not remember: “For what does it profit a man if he gaineth the world but loseth his soul?” And it’s even worse if you lose. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-already-didnt-like-elizabeth-dole/470125/59 "2008-10-31T21:42:53Z")
> [@Knorf](#): > > Please tell me the day is coming when this sort of bullshit does not work … > > And, could that day be Nov. 4, 2008? Don’t get your hopes up. We’re talking about North Carolina. ---
**Author:** ![ZebraShaSha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/eada6e/32.png) [@ZebraShaSha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZebraShaSha)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-already-didnt-like-elizabeth-dole/470125/60 "2008-10-31T22:02:20Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Don’t get your hopes up. We’re talking about North Carolina. Yea, tell me about it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-already-didnt-like-elizabeth-dole/470125.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-already-didnt-like-elizabeth-dole/470125.md?page=4)