# I always wanted to be addicted to escorts, but couldn't afford the dues - ask me anything **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 29, 2018, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-always-wanted-to-be-addicted-to-escorts-but-couldnt-afford-the-dues-ask-me-anything/811397 "2018-03-29T06:29:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![ZonexandScout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zonexandscout/32/544_2.png) [@ZonexandScout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZonexandScout)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2018, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-always-wanted-to-be-addicted-to-escorts-but-couldnt-afford-the-dues-ask-me-anything/811397/41 "2018-03-31T14:26:34Z")
I would like to be addicted to escorts, but my wife persuades me otherwise. She explains that she has no concerns at all about STDs or my becoming emotionally dependent upon them. It’s that they would very likely become quite attached to me, both emotionally and physically, and that this would ruin their lives and careers. “Avoid it for THEIR sake.” I just nod and do what she says. Besides, she has the debit cards and checkbook. ---
**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2018, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-always-wanted-to-be-addicted-to-escorts-but-couldnt-afford-the-dues-ask-me-anything/811397/42 "2018-04-01T02:58:47Z")
> [@actualliberalnotoneofthose](#): > > Sorry, but I’d really like to be able to understand the context (though I did own a Ford Escort, too). Anyone? [This thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=851831) is the source of the parody. ---
**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2018, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-always-wanted-to-be-addicted-to-escorts-but-couldnt-afford-the-dues-ask-me-anything/811397/43 "2018-04-01T04:02:40Z")
> [@elbows](#): > > I’m thinking is not the dues that are challenging so much as the delusions. I mean, you gotta convince yourself that the ‘provider’ for your ‘hobby’ isn’t, y’know, damaged/traumatized/previously sexploited, they just happen to groove on renting out their body for you to use. > > They really wanna ‘provide’ for you and are all just college girls without pimps, looking to make extra pocket money. > > You’re paying cash, and skulking around, all to rent the body, of someone’s daughter, (with zero emotional/social connection), for like twenty minutes, so you can reach orgasm. And done. > > It’s not the dues, it’s the delusions and what you have revealed about your true nature (to yourself), which has to be WAY harder to live with, I should think. I haven’t been back to that thread, but I did want to tell you that you write very eloquently and reflect my views so well. I get too emotionally charged and just end up snarking. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Rocketeer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocketeer/32/4437_2.png) [@Rocketeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rocketeer)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2018, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-always-wanted-to-be-addicted-to-escorts-but-couldnt-afford-the-dues-ask-me-anything/811397/44 "2018-04-01T17:18:13Z")
My wife and I rented a European version of the Escort during our honeymoon in England back in, um, 1985. It was a great car, but I understand little of that greatness was carried over to the American Escort. ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2018, 9:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-always-wanted-to-be-addicted-to-escorts-but-couldnt-afford-the-dues-ask-me-anything/811397/45 "2018-04-02T09:53:29Z")
> [@elbows](#): > > I’m thinking is not the dues that are challenging so much as the delusions. I mean, you gotta convince yourself that the ‘provider’ for your ‘hobby’ isn’t, y’know, damaged/traumatized/previously sexploited, they just happen to groove on renting out their body for you to use. > > They really wanna ‘provide’ for you and are all just college girls without pimps, looking to make extra pocket money. > > You’re paying cash, and skulking around, all to rent the body, of someone’s daughter, (with zero emotional/social connection), for like twenty minutes, so you can reach orgasm. And done. > > It’s not the dues, it’s the delusions and what you have revealed about your true nature (to yourself), which has to be WAY harder to live with, I should think. And of course heaven forbid that there should be women out there that decide for themselves that they could make a good income by charging for sex. I was under the impression that their bodies were their own but clearly they belong to the puritan feminists. If women can charge then men can buy. ---
**Author:** ![Filbert](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/filbert/32/3433_2.png) [@Filbert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Filbert)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2018, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-always-wanted-to-be-addicted-to-escorts-but-couldnt-afford-the-dues-ask-me-anything/811397/46 "2018-04-02T10:33:09Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > And of course heaven forbid that there should be women out there that decide for themselves that they could make a good income by charging for sex. I was under the impression that their bodies were their own but clearly they belong to the puritan feminists. > > If women can charge then men can buy. But they’re someone’s _daughter_, which is clearly more important than being, y’know, someone in their own right. Sex is complicated, and it’s not always a massively emotional thing for everyone. Sure, there are plenty of people with Problems involved, on both supply and demand sides, but I have no trouble believing in the existence of some women who simply decide it’s a good plan for themselves. Especially in countries where it’s legal, so they do have the option of legal backup if things go wrong. I’ve certainly known sex phone workers and strippers who showed no signs of being messed up individuals, and it wouldn’t wholly surprise me if one of them did occasionally take the stripping further if she liked the look of a guy. I wouldn’t think any less of her either. ---
**Author:** ![Crazy\_Canuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazy_canuck/32/5282_2.png) [@Crazy\_Canuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazy_Canuck)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2018, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-always-wanted-to-be-addicted-to-escorts-but-couldnt-afford-the-dues-ask-me-anything/811397/47 "2018-04-02T17:43:21Z")
> [@elbows](#): > > I’m thinking is not the dues that are challenging so much as the delusions. I mean, you gotta convince yourself that the ‘provider’ for your ‘hobby’ isn’t, y’know, damaged/traumatized/previously sexploited, they just happen to groove on renting out their body for you to use. You’ve got a lot of nerve pointing fingers about delusions when you are parroting the misogynistic delusion that all sex workers are “damaged/traumatized/previously sexploited.” > [@elbows](#): > > You’re paying cash, and skulking around, all to rent the body, of someone’s daughter, (with zero emotional/social connection), The bracketed part is also totally false. The working girls I know have regular clients, and there definitely is an emotional connection between them and their regulars. One of the smartest working girls I know actually describes herself as a shrink who fucks her clients. She’s also the most successful, her client list has been full the entire time I have known her, and she’s already financially set with a plan to retire at 40. Are you retiring at 40? ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2018, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-always-wanted-to-be-addicted-to-escorts-but-couldnt-afford-the-dues-ask-me-anything/811397/48 "2018-04-02T17:47:33Z")
> [@Crazy\_Canuck](#): > > You’ve got a lot of nerve pointing fingers about delusions when you are parroting the misogynistic delusion that all sex workers are “damaged/traumatized/previously sexploited.” > > The bracketed part is also totally false. The working girls I know have regular clients, and there definitely is an emotional connection between them and their regulars. One of the smartest working girls I know actually describes herself as a shrink who fucks her clients. She’s also the most successful, her client list has been full the entire time I have known her, and she’s already financially set with a plan to retire at 40. > > Are you retiring at 40? Have you met Shagnasty? You two seem to run in the same circles. ---
**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2018, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-always-wanted-to-be-addicted-to-escorts-but-couldnt-afford-the-dues-ask-me-anything/811397/49 "2018-04-02T18:15:25Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > And of course heaven forbid that there should be women out there that decide for themselves that they could make a good income by charging for sex. I was under the impression that their bodies were their own but clearly they belong to the puritan feminists. > > If women can charge then men can buy. For fuck’s sake. Of course, there are exceptions. The vast majority of women wouldn’t choose this if there were other options. The same to you, **Crazy Canuck**. Just because you know a few who like it (are you sure?) doesn’t mean all or most do. Studies show that many sex workers do so because they have no other viable socioeconomic options. It’s interesting that it’s been all men who are defending this point of view. ---
**Author:** ![Crazy\_Canuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazy_canuck/32/5282_2.png) [@Crazy\_Canuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazy_Canuck)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2018, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-always-wanted-to-be-addicted-to-escorts-but-couldnt-afford-the-dues-ask-me-anything/811397/50 "2018-04-02T18:29:27Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Have you met Shagnasty? You two seem to run in the same circles. Is this what you meant when you said you’d “I will be there, in the future, to point out your trollery?” Do you plan on continuing to follow me around and comparing me to unpopular board members with no context or content? If you are going to be my stalker, I am going to demand that you not be so boring and pathetic about it. > [@Helena330](#): > > Just because you know a few who like it (are you sure?) doesn’t mean all or most do. Studies show that many sex workers do so because they have no other viable socioeconomic options. Well, they say they do, and in general I assume that when people tell me their thoughts about their life and personal experiences that they are telling the truth. The women who are telling me this are my friends, I’m not their client, and I can’t see a motive for them lying to me. If you have studies showing my personal experiences are not the norm, please cite them. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2018, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-always-wanted-to-be-addicted-to-escorts-but-couldnt-afford-the-dues-ask-me-anything/811397/51 "2018-04-02T19:14:28Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > With a name like _Delicious_ how could you miss? Seems perfect to me;). Not enough chocolate. ---
**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-always-wanted-to-be-addicted-to-escorts-but-couldnt-afford-the-dues-ask-me-anything/811397/52 "2018-04-30T06:59:58Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > Did you say the Mustang had 86 hp?! Imma need an escort to my fainting couch. Was this '86 Mustang the horrible Mustang II? Which, if memory serves, was basically a tricked out Pinto? ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-always-wanted-to-be-addicted-to-escorts-but-couldnt-afford-the-dues-ask-me-anything/811397/53 "2018-04-30T12:11:49Z")
Can’t see a motive for her to lie? How about she’s hoping to make you a customer, one day, or get an intro to a new customer through you? This ranks right up there with pathetically believing that cute bartender likes you because she’s always smiling and sweet to you. And the homeless guy at the bus depot just needs two dollars more for bus fare. Men believe what suits their ego when it comes to this, I’m convinced. Their ego _needs_ the happy ho, college girl story. That’s why sex workers never stop telling it. They are paying for the illusion that she actually likes doing this with _them_. It’s always about delusions and illusions in my opinion. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-always-wanted-to-be-addicted-to-escorts-but-couldnt-afford-the-dues-ask-me-anything/811397/54 "2018-04-30T12:32:13Z")
Um, what does any of that hijack have to do with crappy Ford products? I’m normally the last guy to complain about tangent off-going, but we were talking about cars. ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-always-wanted-to-be-addicted-to-escorts-but-couldnt-afford-the-dues-ask-me-anything/811397/55 "2018-04-30T12:57:27Z")
> [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](#): > > Was this '86 Mustang the horrible Mustang II? Which, if memory serves, was basically a tricked out Pinto? No, it was a different abomination from the cocaine-addled minds of Ford’s design department. [Mustang II](https://www.google.com/search?q=mustang+II&safe=active&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwii84jShOLaAhVs5YMKHR1lAEsQ_AUICigB&biw=1483&bih=845#imgrc=dSDi7gBxHJOKLM:&spf=1525092599173): 1974 - 1978; it was also [a bitch to drive](https://www.google.com/search?q=mustang+II&safe=active&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwii84jShOLaAhVs5YMKHR1lAEsQ_AUICigB&biw=1483&bih=845#imgrc=AsQMnElw8la0fM:&spf=1525093088412) [Mustang Foxbody](https://www.google.com/search?safe=active&biw=1483&bih=845&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=9xDnWv_2DoXGjgSh8KvYBw&q=mustang+foxbody&oq=mustang+foxbody&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0i10k1j0l9.125970.127670.0.128480.7.7.0.0.0.0.145.906.0j7.7.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.7.900....0.WNg46LNGpaI#imgrc=nWqAijDqgYetjM:&spf=1525092728477): 1979-1993 (which, curiously, was not at all foxy) ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2018, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-always-wanted-to-be-addicted-to-escorts-but-couldnt-afford-the-dues-ask-me-anything/811397/56 "2018-05-01T05:55:41Z")
As for dues, the closest I can think of is this one Bangkok bar I knew of that had a Frequent Fucker card. Get 10 stamps,and you got a free session. Come to think of it, there may have been two or three bars like that. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-always-wanted-to-be-addicted-to-escorts-but-couldnt-afford-the-dues-ask-me-anything/811397.md?page=2)