# I am amazed on how someone could be so out of touch with reality (Ahenakew) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 28, 2008, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-amazed-on-how-someone-could-be-so-out-of-touch-with-reality-ahenakew/474792 "2008-11-28T13:48:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2009, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-amazed-on-how-someone-could-be-so-out-of-touch-with-reality-ahenakew/474792/81 "2009-03-05T14:02:47Z")
AHHHHHHH!!! A necro thread!!! Kill it! Kill it!!! ---
**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2009, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-amazed-on-how-someone-could-be-so-out-of-touch-with-reality-ahenakew/474792/82 "2009-03-05T14:22:17Z")
I’m still at a gobsmackingly stupefied awe at… 1. His wing-nut beliefs/speeches/random ejaculations on “the Jews”/Hitler/etc. 2. His complete and total failure to gauge public opinion, on how bizarre/unpopular his beliefs are viewed upon. Being a crazy bigoted nutjob is one thing, but how could he live 76 years on this earth **without even realizing** how crazy and bigoted everyone will think he is? ---
**Author:** ![Harmonious\_Discord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/74df32/32.png) [@Harmonious\_Discord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harmonious_Discord)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2009, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-amazed-on-how-someone-could-be-so-out-of-touch-with-reality-ahenakew/474792/83 "2009-03-05T14:24:48Z")
I really hate the hate speech laws. The fact you can go to jail because you think certain Jewish facts are a lie is ridiculous. Charge someone with inciting a riot or deny a public assembly permit. Don’t have special laws for the people that can’t handle facts that are proven. ---
**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2009, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-amazed-on-how-someone-could-be-so-out-of-touch-with-reality-ahenakew/474792/84 "2009-03-05T14:35:54Z")
> [@Harmonious\_Discord](#): > > I really hate the hate speech laws. The fact you can go to jail because you think certain Jewish facts are a lie is ridiculous. Charge someone with inciting a riot or deny a public assembly permit. Don’t have special laws for the people that can’t handle facts that are proven. “Jewish facts”? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2009, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-amazed-on-how-someone-could-be-so-out-of-touch-with-reality-ahenakew/474792/85 "2009-03-05T15:13:22Z")
> [@'\[Undecided](#): > > Adrian;10906189’]My take on this as a German is that Americans think laws can protect them from dictators - free speech and gun laws for example. (In the case of your gun laws the gun owners are much more likely to become the oppressors, anyway.) > > The problem is that this is not the case - laws and constitutions can be changed or ignored and rights can be taken away. To get a dictatorship out of a democracy you need popular support, at least at the beginning. > > So the answer for us is to stop the rise of potential oppressors, not to try to pass laws to protect oneself beforehand. So, who gets to define what can not be said “to stop the rise of potential oppresors”? If you can not say what you want, you are already (a little) oppresed. ---
**Author:** ![Lust4Life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecc23a/32.png) [@Lust4Life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lust4Life)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2009, 10:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-amazed-on-how-someone-could-be-so-out-of-touch-with-reality-ahenakew/474792/86 "2009-03-07T10:34:03Z")
> [@Revtim](#): > > Hey, the Jews shouldn’t have assassinated Archduke Ferdinand at Pearl Harbor if they didn’t want to be accused of starting WWII. EXACTLY ! Yet when I put this point forward people look at me as though I were mad. Yet another example of the insidious sway Jews have over public opinion. Personally I think that they are behind the onset of Global Warming and the coming extinction of the Arctic Leopard aswell. Bastards! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-amazed-on-how-someone-could-be-so-out-of-touch-with-reality-ahenakew/474792.md?page=4)