# I am an LA girl to my marrow, and I cannot take much more...

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 3, 2015, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-an-la-girl-to-my-marrow-and-i-cannot-take-much-more/708839 "2015-01-03T08:27:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![Pork\_Rind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pork_rind/32/111_2.png) [@Pork\_Rind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pork_Rind)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2015, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-an-la-girl-to-my-marrow-and-i-cannot-take-much-more/708839/61 "2015-01-04T15:40:20Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> No longer in Seattle? I missed that news.

Yup. Grew up in the Midwest and lived in Seattle for 21 years, and I’m very excited for my first ‘civilized’ winter. I’ll admit with the limited variation in temps, it sure didn’t feel much like Christmas this year, but if that’ stone kind of hardship I have to get used to, I’ll learn to deal with it.

The biggest adventure this week during the ‘cold’ snap is that I’ve had to try to figure out the old school programmable thermostat. It seems to take my instruction and convert it to _something else_. Me: 10pm, 63 degrees; 6am, 67 degrees. It: random time, 104 degrees; other random time, 49 degrees.

> [@RandMcnally](#):
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> Congrats on the move! I went to school there and I love and miss SB. Eat at Kahuna Grill and get the onion rings.
> 
> If you ever go to Buelton there’s a place called Pattibakes that we got our wedding cake from. Delicious. We had our reception at Grappalos in Santa Ynez. They have great food.
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> You’re going to love January. We would usually have barbeques on the beach or go to the botanical garden.
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> It’s snowing in Boston as I type this.

Fun! The Kahuna Grill was about 30 feet from the temporary office space I was renting this summer. It closed a couple of months ago. I think it’s going to be a pizza place now, which is sad because that five block radius is now completely saturated with new pizza places.

We get to Buellton plenty. Our dog got hit by a car and part of his physical therapy to regain use of his left front leg is doggy acupuncture (didn’t know that was a thing! Fortunately covered by insurance, so it doesn’t matter if I think it’s borderline woo.) that vet is in Buellton, so off we go.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2015, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-an-la-girl-to-my-marrow-and-i-cannot-take-much-more/708839/62 "2015-01-04T15:46:10Z")

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> [@Pork\_Rind](#):
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> Yup. Grew up in the Midwest and lived in Seattle for 21 years, and I’m very excited for my first ‘civilized’ winter. I’ll admit with the limited variation in temps, it sure didn’t feel much like Christmas this year, but if that’ stone kind of hardship I have to get used to, I’ll learn to deal with it.

I heard that the Elephant Bar was a popular destination for pilots. I flew to SBA for my helicopter long cross-country, and thought I’d pop in for a bite. (Obviously, a beer was out of the question.) Alas, they were not open yet. I understand they closed a year and a half ago.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2015, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-an-la-girl-to-my-marrow-and-i-cannot-take-much-more/708839/63 "2015-01-04T16:12:54Z")

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> [@Pork\_Rind](#):
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> Yup. Grew up in the Midwest and lived in Seattle for 21 years, and I’m very excited for my first ‘civilized’ winter. I’ll admit with the limited variation in temps, it sure didn’t feel much like Christmas this year, but if that’ stone kind of hardship I have to get used to, I’ll learn to deal with it.

LOL, I know exactly what you mean. I lived in San Luis Obispo County for 20 years prior to moving to Oregon, having moved there from north central Montana. Took me three years to discern the changing of a season. Temperature control at my house consisted of, “Too cold? Close the window. Too warm? Open the window.”

I remember a cold snap in, oh, 1992 or 93 I think it was, right around the Christmas holidays. Got down to 24F for a few nights. My house had an open wood fireplace and we kept that puppy blazing away non-stop. Still couldn’t get the house warm!

I love Santa Barbara and surrounding environs. Enjoy the bougainvillea and the beach!

OP, I hope you warm up soon!

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2015, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-an-la-girl-to-my-marrow-and-i-cannot-take-much-more/708839/64 "2015-01-04T16:56:04Z")

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_Finally!_ It’s snowing.

Big, warm-temperature flakes (the patio thermometer reads 32º) that will probably turn to rain later. But at least it will be pretty for a little while.

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**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2015, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-an-la-girl-to-my-marrow-and-i-cannot-take-much-more/708839/65 "2015-01-04T17:12:17Z")

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It’s projected to hit -2 here on Wednesday. Any LA-ites visiting? 😃

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**Author:** ![zbuzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@zbuzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zbuzz)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2015, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-an-la-girl-to-my-marrow-and-i-cannot-take-much-more/708839/66 "2015-01-04T23:10:44Z")

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This would be funnier if I could have found a video clip, but from L.A. Story…

Harris: And when the weather dropped down to 58 degrees this weekend, how did you cope?

Man: Well, I just made sure all the windows were shut.

Harris: And what about your pets? Were they outside? What happened?

Man: Well, the cats were out until around 10, but it got a little too cold for them and they came in.

Harris: The cats were out until around 10, but it got a little too cold for them and they came in. Well, that’s how L.A. coped with that surprise low of 58 degrees that turned the weekend into a real weenie shrinker!"

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2015, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-an-la-girl-to-my-marrow-and-i-cannot-take-much-more/708839/67 "2015-01-05T00:23:43Z")

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From _The Call of the Wild_: “It was not too cold. The temperature dropped to fifty below zero and remained there the whole trip.”

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**Author:** ![Pork\_Rind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pork_rind/32/111_2.png) [@Pork\_Rind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pork_Rind)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2015, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-an-la-girl-to-my-marrow-and-i-cannot-take-much-more/708839/68 "2015-01-05T04:30:22Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> I heard that the Elephant Bar was a popular destination for pilots. I flew to SBA for my helicopter long cross-country, and thought I’d pop in for a bite. (Obviously, a beer was out of the question.) Alas, they were not open yet. I understand they closed a year and a half ago.

If it’s a hundred dollar burger in a Cessna, what’s that work out to be in helicopter bucks?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2015, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-an-la-girl-to-my-marrow-and-i-cannot-take-much-more/708839/69 "2015-01-05T05:02:59Z")

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Let me put it this way: I once had a $300 Pepsi. And I’m a Coke guy. The trip was VNY to WJF (about 40 miles), in a Schweizer 300CB.

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**Author:** ![chiroptera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df705f/32.png) [@chiroptera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chiroptera)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2015, 9:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-an-la-girl-to-my-marrow-and-i-cannot-take-much-more/708839/70 "2015-01-05T09:43:39Z")

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[The Benefits of Being Cold  
Year-round warmth is a modern luxury, and one that could be affecting body weight and health.](http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/01/does-global-warming-make-me-look-fat/383509/)  
Coincidentally, I just read this article and it seemed applicable to this thread.

> [@](#):
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> The notion that thermal environments influence human metabolism dates back to studies conducted in the late 18th century by the French chemist Antoine Lavoisier, but only in the past century has it really become relevant to daily life. Cronise believes that our thinking about the modern plagues of obesity and metabolic disease (like diabetes) has not addressed the fact that most people are rarely cold today. Many of us live almost constantly, year-round, in 70-something-degree environments. And when we are caught somewhere colder than that, most of us quickly put on a sweater or turn up the thermostat.
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> In that sense, we don’t really experience seasonal variations in temperature the way our ancestors did.

(It’s 8F with a wind chill factor of -14 right now. Just thought I would share. :D)

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**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2015, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-an-la-girl-to-my-marrow-and-i-cannot-take-much-more/708839/71 "2015-01-05T18:04:38Z")

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> [@chiroptera](#):
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> [The Benefits of Being Cold  
> Year-round warmth is a modern luxury, and one that could be affecting body weight and health.](http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/01/does-global-warming-make-me-look-fat/383509/)  
> Coincidentally, I just read this article and it seemed applicable to this thread.
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> (It’s 8F with a wind chill factor of -14 right now. Just thought I would share. :D)

That’s very interesting. And I don’t know how many people in this thread know that I am obese, but I am, and as a result I actually have a pretty high tolerance for cold. When my friends are pulling on sweaters and shivering, I can be walking around in a thin sleeveless T, and in fact I spend the vast majority of the year dressed in bicycle shorts and a sports bra. (I’m talking about at home, which is where I spend 99.99% of my time) this is trueespecially if I’m in any way active… If I am sedentary and still when it starts to get a little chilly,then I’m more vulnerable, but get my blood pumping the slightest bit and I warm right up.

And that’s actually been kind of annoying over this freezing week… I’ve been going out a bit, on my bike, and I dress with self-created windchill factor in mind layering up, And it’s a good thing when I’m actually outside in the cold riding the bike… But the second I go indoors, and I mean almost instantly, I am uncomfortably warm and unless I have the right kind of layers that can be stripped off easily and quickly I’ve become so warm that I get a little nauseated. Which takes me back to my OP… I live my life in a very narrow zone of temperature and I am highly vulnerable to discomfort if it is stretched too far in any direction… So fuck this.

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**Author:** ![Laggard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@Laggard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laggard)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2015, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-an-la-girl-to-my-marrow-and-i-cannot-take-much-more/708839/72 "2015-01-05T18:22:47Z")

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I grew up in northern Wisconsin and have spent the last twenty years in Minneapolis. We are moving to LA this spring. When I left for work this morning it was -10. No idea what the wind chill was.

I will never complain about the weather in LA being too cold.

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**Post date:** [January 5, 2015, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-an-la-girl-to-my-marrow-and-i-cannot-take-much-more/708839/73 "2015-01-05T19:27:11Z")

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> [@Laggard](#):
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> I grew up in northern Wisconsin and have spent the last twenty years in Minneapolis. We are moving to LA this spring. When I left for work this morning it was -10. No idea what the wind chill was.
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> I will never complain about the weather in LA being too cold.

Yeah, -9 here this morning, but the air was very still. I was outside for maybe 10 minutes without hat or gloves, and felt just a bit chilled. Had I needed to wait another 10 or 20 minutes for my ride, I _might_ have gone back inside.

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**Post date:** [January 5, 2015, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-an-la-girl-to-my-marrow-and-i-cannot-take-much-more/708839/74 "2015-01-05T19:41:37Z")

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I am in the northern suburbs of Chicago and it is currently 3 degrees. I travel to London and Dublin, a lot, and the winters there are worse. The damp cold is the worst kind of cold.

I asked my wife last night why we don’t live in Southern California and she said, I like Chicago.

End of discussion.

Not where you live but how you live I think.

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**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2015, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-an-la-girl-to-my-marrow-and-i-cannot-take-much-more/708839/75 "2015-01-05T19:56:08Z")

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> [@Laggard](#):
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> I grew up in northern Wisconsin and have spent the last twenty years in Minneapolis. We are moving to LA this spring. When I left for work this morning it was -10. No idea what the wind chill was.
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> I will never complain about the weather in LA being too cold.

I thought the same thing when I moved from central Ohio to LA 10 years ago. The climate acclimation can be a real surprise.

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**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\
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> [@Antinor01](#):
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> I thought the same thing when I moved from central Ohio to LA 10 years ago. The climate acclimation can be a real surprise.

Yeah, our weather in Atlanta is much, much colder than LA this time of year, but it’s still an easy winter. My friends from Michigan and Ohio are the first to complain when the weather gets unexpectedly chilly here. Especially when it happens in April.

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**Post date:** [January 5, 2015, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-an-la-girl-to-my-marrow-and-i-cannot-take-much-more/708839/77 "2015-01-05T21:42:54Z")

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Its warming up this week finally, after a prolonged bout of winter chill! Those mornings still suck though with temps in the 40’s, I think I even saw a 37 one day last week. Had to scrape frost off my car for that. I’m with you Stoid, hate the cold, we keep our house temp at 72-74 degrees because 70 is too cold for me

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**Post date:** [January 5, 2015, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-an-la-girl-to-my-marrow-and-i-cannot-take-much-more/708839/78 "2015-01-05T22:11:05Z")

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I complain about the cold at the drop of a hat.

The heat doesn’t bother me, though. I grew up in the desert and as long as humidity is low I could walk home from work up to 110 without a problem. Iraq sucked because it was in the 120s and I had to have body armor and shit.

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**Post date:** [January 5, 2015, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-an-la-girl-to-my-marrow-and-i-cannot-take-much-more/708839/79 "2015-01-05T22:15:14Z")

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It has got downright warm here, probably one of those pineapple things come up. Last week, it got to the mid 20s overnight, today it is almost 50 right now. Feels summery, relatively speaking.

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**Post date:** [January 5, 2015, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-an-la-girl-to-my-marrow-and-i-cannot-take-much-more/708839/80 "2015-01-05T22:53:53Z")

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Well I agree with the OP in that feeling cold sucks. I find that I’m always tensed up when I feel cold - my jaw, neck and shoulders - I don’t like it one bit. Not to mention that scooting on my Vespa is so much more pleasant when it’s above 60 degrees. I am too a tropical gal living in the NW of the USA. The winters are relatively mild…but still. I’m sitting at a computer at work and my hands are cold as ice. And yes, the heat is on. C’mon Spring and Summer!

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