# I am an LA girl to my marrow, and I cannot take much more... **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 3, 2015, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-an-la-girl-to-my-marrow-and-i-cannot-take-much-more/708839 "2015-01-03T08:27:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2015, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-an-la-girl-to-my-marrow-and-i-cannot-take-much-more/708839/81 "2015-01-05T23:43:06Z")
Okay, **stoidela** your work is done here. I just checked the temp in Anaheim and it’s 85F. I don’t know what kind of weather control technology (or MAGIC! . . . from _SATAN!_) you’ve been using, but it’s time to turn it off. ---
**Author:** ![chiroptera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df705f/32.png) [@chiroptera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chiroptera)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2015, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-an-la-girl-to-my-marrow-and-i-cannot-take-much-more/708839/82 "2015-01-05T23:48:41Z")
> [@Stoid](#): > > That’s very interesting. And I don’t know how many people in this thread know that I am obese, but I am, and as a result I actually have a pretty high tolerance for cold. When my friends are pulling on sweaters and shivering, I can be walking around in a thin sleeveless T, and in fact I spend the vast majority of the year dressed in bicycle shorts and a sports bra. (I’m talking about at home, which is where I spend 99.99% of my time) this is trueespecially if I’m in any way active… If I am sedentary and still when it starts to get a little chilly,then I’m more vulnerable, but get my blood pumping the slightest bit and I warm right up. > > And that’s actually been kind of annoying over this freezing week… I’ve been going out a bit, on my bike, and I dress with self-created windchill factor in mind layering up, And it’s a good thing when I’m actually outside in the cold riding the bike… But the second I go indoors, and I mean almost instantly, I am uncomfortably warm and unless I have the right kind of layers that can be stripped off easily and quickly I’ve become so warm that I get a little nauseated. Which takes me back to my OP… I live my life in a very narrow zone of temperature and I am highly vulnerable to discomfort if it is stretched too far in any direction… So fuck this. Does body fat composition really have that much to do with cold tolerance, though? I can’t find any cites either way. Two of my best friends are obese, and both are utterly cold intolerant. As in, keeping the indoor temps at 75-80, which makes me want to peel my skin off. A woman who worked for me for several years, back when I smoked: she and I are both real skinny but she was always cold, it was a running joke. We’d go out for a smoke break in winter, she bundled to the max, would smoke half a cigarette in about three minutes and her face and ears and hands would be red and freezing cold to the touch, she’d be shivering uncontrollably. She was seriously, legitimately cold. I’d stay out for a whole cigarette wearing a fraction of what she was, and my extremities would be normal and warm and I felt fine. On the other hand, once it hits 80 and humid (my thermostat changed during menopause) I am practically useless and very, very, truly, physically unhappy. I don’t understand people who are happy when it’s really hot, I truly don’t. I can push through and deal, but I fucking loathe it. So I wonder how much is hard-wired metabolic settings, and how much is truly acclimation. We had a high of 8 and a low of who the fuck knows today, and it was icy and snowy and sparkly and beautiful. We followed various wild animal tracks in the snow and after a commute on icy roads, there’s a sort of survivor glee: HA! I made it safely! Again! Up yours, Winter! What sucked was I do not have a garage and the rear and side doors on my work van were frozen shut all day. I had to climb over the seats to get stuff out. Oh and the heavy ice on the power lines shut the power off to the job for several hours. But walking in to a warm house after being cold feels great. I love living in four seasons because there’s something primal and elemental and connected about it. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2015, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-an-la-girl-to-my-marrow-and-i-cannot-take-much-more/708839/83 "2015-01-06T02:27:00Z")
Its 25 degrees outside (it was snowing when the OP first posted). One of the Xmas presents this year was a bread machine with a timer. I used it today & I timed it badly: the bread wasn’t ready until 7:30, well after dinner. Also, my firewood ring is full, but I still had some good wood outside that would just rot w/o being burned. That, and someone sent us a nice bottle of Merlot for an Xmas present as well. So, tonight… our house had a wood fire, with good red wine & hot fresh bread to enjoy by it. 😉😃 Happy Monday to All! (…and to All a Good Night!) \*my youngest just hugged me & went to bed as I just typed that. ---
**Author:** ![fachverwirrt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2015, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-an-la-girl-to-my-marrow-and-i-cannot-take-much-more/708839/84 "2015-01-06T02:47:56Z")
> [@YogSosoth](#): > > Its warming up this week finally, after a prolonged bout of winter chill! Those mornings still suck though with temps in the 40’s, I think I even saw a 37 one day last week. Had to scrape frost off my car for that. I’m with you Stoid, hate the cold, we keep our house temp at 72-74 degrees because 70 is too cold for me You have weird frost if it’s occurring at 37. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2015, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-an-la-girl-to-my-marrow-and-i-cannot-take-much-more/708839/85 "2015-01-06T03:09:45Z")
> [@fachverwirrt](#): > > You have weird frost if it’s occurring at 37. It probably gets lower overnight, the 37 is 7am when I leave for work. That’s about the lowest it gets all year. I don’t count lower because I’m not awake. If it starts snowing, I’m calling in sick! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Daffyd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daffyd/32/8923_2.png) [@Daffyd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daffyd)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2015, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-an-la-girl-to-my-marrow-and-i-cannot-take-much-more/708839/86 "2015-01-06T04:16:40Z")
It hit 32 a couple of times last week in Pasadena… as anyone who saw the Rose Parade heard about, I’m sure… It was so cold a couple of the plants in the yard got damaged… I wasn’t sure how we’d survive if that the guavas or papayas had been damaged… AND we had to put another blanket on the bed… Last week was horrifying! It was enough to make us think about moving south - to Hawaii! Luckily today it was 77… we’re staying… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2015, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-an-la-girl-to-my-marrow-and-i-cannot-take-much-more/708839/87 "2015-01-06T05:01:33Z")
I’ve always preferred the cold – at least when it’s cold outside, you can bundle up, and just add more layers of blankets. But when it’s hot out, well, there’s only so much you can strip off. You can’t take off your skin. You know? Plus I’ve always been able to tolerate the cold better – not a big fan of the heat. I mean, I can DEAL with it, but I don’t like it. ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2015, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-an-la-girl-to-my-marrow-and-i-cannot-take-much-more/708839/88 "2015-01-06T05:30:48Z")
> [@chiroptera](#): > > [Currently 43, with a high of 61. But then back in the 70s](http://www.accuweather.com/en/us/los-angeles-ca/90012/daily-weather-forecast/347625). > > **Stoid** , does your apartment/house not have heat at all? If not, and if you are renting, is this legal? Well shucks man/ma’am. 61 is right fine motorcycle weather. ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2015, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-an-la-girl-to-my-marrow-and-i-cannot-take-much-more/708839/89 "2015-01-06T13:04:46Z")
> [@fachverwirrt](#): > > You have weird frost if it’s occurring at 37. No he doesn’t. Frost routinely occurs when the air temperature is slightly above freezing. ---
**Author:** ![fachverwirrt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2015, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-an-la-girl-to-my-marrow-and-i-cannot-take-much-more/708839/90 "2015-01-06T16:08:04Z")
> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#): > > No he doesn’t. Frost routinely occurs when the air temperature is slightly above freezing. Sure, but the surface still has to be below freezing, which seems unlikely if the temperature never dropped below 37 (I realize **YogSosoth** has already addressed this. Just saying). ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2015, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-an-la-girl-to-my-marrow-and-i-cannot-take-much-more/708839/91 "2015-01-06T16:25:43Z")
> [@fachverwirrt](#): > > Sure, but the surface still has to be below freezing, which seems unlikely if the temperature never dropped below 37 (I realize **YogSosoth** has already addressed this. Just saying). There are several sources around the web, including wiki, that attribute this to radiative cooling. Surfaces that are colder than the air temperature seem to be quite common. Also, there can be pockets of air that are colder than the lowest recorded temperature. ---
**Author:** ![fachverwirrt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2015, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-an-la-girl-to-my-marrow-and-i-cannot-take-much-more/708839/92 "2015-01-06T17:21:32Z")
> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#): > > There are several sources around the web, including wiki, that attribute this to radiative cooling. Surfaces that are colder than the air temperature seem to be quite common. Also, there can be pockets of air that are colder than the lowest recorded temperature. Eh, I’d rather just assume it’s because LA is weird. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2015, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-an-la-girl-to-my-marrow-and-i-cannot-take-much-more/708839/93 "2015-01-06T20:08:02Z")
> [@Pork\_Rind](#): > > Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know enough from the eleven million books I’ve read about Everest that the push for the summit is made from Camp IV at about 26,000 feet. Nonetheless the native Barabareños are losing their minds in this weather. We prefer Barbarians. Welcome to Paradise. I’ve been here for going on 25 years. > [@Pork\_Rind](#): > > Fun! The Kahuna Grill was about 30 feet from the temporary office space I was renting this summer. It closed a couple of months ago. I think it’s going to be a pizza place now, which is sad because that five block radius is now completely saturated with new pizza places. The original Kahuna Grill in Goleta is still around. SB has some excellent restaurants but not so much with certain types of food. > [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > I heard that the Elephant Bar was a popular destination for pilots. I flew to SBA for my helicopter long cross-country, and thought I’d pop in for a bite. (Obviously, a beer was out of the question.) Alas, they were not open yet. I understand they closed a year and a half ago. Yeah. E-bar is long gone but it was mediocre food anyway. It was a TGI Fridays clone. I heard that something is finally going to be put into that space soon. ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2015, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-an-la-girl-to-my-marrow-and-i-cannot-take-much-more/708839/94 "2015-01-06T23:00:42Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Even now, its much cheaper to set the wall thermostat to 66 at night and use our electric blanket. Doesn’t make sense to heat the house when we’re in bed anyhow. We set ours to 50 to save propane, and crank up the electric blanket or mattress pad (but not both at once!) > [@cochrane](#): > > Heh. Here in the hellish Sonora desert it was 33° when I woke up and put my dog outside. It’s currently 41° and is expected to get all the way up to 51°. I’m miserable. Yes, I have heat, but my gas bill was $50 last month. I don’t want to spend that much this month. I can’t wait till we get out of this cold snap. If you don’t ming my asking, how much is your A/C bill in the summer? $50 a month for heat is a pittance, but on the flip side we don’t pay too much for electricity in the summer. And yes, finally the single digits this morning! Now I feel alive! ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2015, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-an-la-girl-to-my-marrow-and-i-cannot-take-much-more/708839/95 "2015-01-06T23:14:36Z")
> [@chiroptera](#): > > Does body fat composition really have that much to do with cold tolerance, though? On one hand, (generic) you should retain heat better as a result of having more mass. On the other hand, you’d have more skin surface to react to the cold. So I could see where you’d technically stay warm longer in terms of body temperature but the most temperature sensitive parts of you (your skin) would suffer more in the meantime. Just a guess though. ---
**Author:** ![Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maggie_the_Ocelot)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2015, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-an-la-girl-to-my-marrow-and-i-cannot-take-much-more/708839/96 "2015-01-06T23:26:39Z")
Ahhhhhhhhhhhh. 84 right now. As it should be. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2015, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-an-la-girl-to-my-marrow-and-i-cannot-take-much-more/708839/97 "2015-01-06T23:59:04Z")
Perfect January weather! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Randolph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Randolph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randolph)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2015, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-an-la-girl-to-my-marrow-and-i-cannot-take-much-more/708839/98 "2015-01-07T00:13:46Z")
Just wanted to say, if the title had used “core” instead of “marrow” it’d be much more fun to say. Even in mind-speak. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2015, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-an-la-girl-to-my-marrow-and-i-cannot-take-much-more/708839/99 "2015-01-07T00:30:41Z")
> [@gigi](#): > > If you don’t ming my asking, how much is your A/C bill in the summer? $50 a month for heat is a pittance, but on the flip side we don’t pay too much for electricity in the summer. Perhaps **cochrane** is a “snowbird”? One of the migratory species that spend winters in the sunbelt region and move north for the summer? My aunt and her husband did that for several years, living in Yuma (Sonoran desert) in the winter, but at some point they decided that NW winters were manageable enough that the cost of migrating and living in a 25’ RV for six months was too much, or maybe grew to fear that they were getting soft or something. ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2015, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-an-la-girl-to-my-marrow-and-i-cannot-take-much-more/708839/100 "2015-01-07T23:15:50Z")
> [@Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](#): > > Ahhhhhhhhhhhh. > > 84 right now. > > As it should be. -17 predicted for tomorrow morning’s temp (without windchill) – at least one school has already scheduled a two-hour delay. Ah, the refreshing feeling of one’s face prickling with cold and then losing any sensation. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-an-la-girl-to-my-marrow-and-i-cannot-take-much-more/708839.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-an-la-girl-to-my-marrow-and-i-cannot-take-much-more/708839.md?page=6)