# I am another Firefly convert

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 1, 2006, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558 "2006-03-01T02:51:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![Stark\_Raven\_Mad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Stark\_Raven\_Mad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stark_Raven_Mad)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2006, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/1 "2006-03-01T02:51:55Z")

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I finally picked up the Firefly DVD set two nights ago. I took yesterday off to finish watching it. I’ve ordered [Those Left Behind](http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1593074492/sr=8-4/qid=1141181250/ref=pd_bbs_4/103-3304471-5730203?%5Fencoding=UTF8) off Amazon. And in only a few hours time I shall be cradling the Serenity DVD in my arms.

The premise is really, really cool (space cowboys! In space!). The actors do a brilliant job - I don’t think they’re really brilliant all by themselves, but they seem to work _together_ so gorram well. The music is perfect. The chicks are hot (the regular cast is yummy. But YoSafBridge maketh me to drool all over the couch, slip in the drool, fall and convulse spectacularly in fits of lust). River is the most awesomest TV character in the 'verse. I’m going to buy a Bible so I can fix it too.

So yeah, I’m going to skip classes again today so I can pick up Serenity, watch it, and then start all over again.

S’cuse me now; I need to go get me some fan merchandise and a huge cup of coffee.

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**Author:** ![Improv\_Geek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b3f665/32.png) [@Improv\_Geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Improv_Geek)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2006, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/2 "2006-03-01T03:01:40Z")

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Welcome friend, here’s the shiny hat and the brown coat. We’re proud of you.

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**Author:** ![Lissla\_Lissar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@Lissla\_Lissar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lissla_Lissar)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2006, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/3 "2006-03-01T03:04:06Z")

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Ha! Another one!

Welcome to the ranks of the _Firefly_-crazed. I started evangelizing about it in November. Oh, and for those who asked me to watch _Buffy_ and _Lost_, I now watch all three.

Sorry. Mild hijack.

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**Author:** ![Phantom\_Dennis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/51bf81/32.png) [@Phantom\_Dennis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phantom_Dennis)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2006, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/4 "2006-03-01T07:40:21Z")

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Firefly: the James Dean of TV shows.

Welcome aboard, **Stark**. Tell your friends. Spread the word.

I agree – the best thing about the show was its cast. How many people aboard Serenity? Nine? Not only are they all terrific actors, but they had great chemistry. The writers also did a terrific job of fleshing out the characters and making them interesting and believable.

Is there still a possibility that the show will be resurrected in some form, or have people pretty much given up hope by now?

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2006, 8:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/5 "2006-03-01T08:55:57Z")

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> [@Stark Raven Mad](#):
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> The premise is really, really cool (space cowboys! In space!)

Not to denigrate Firefly any, but it is fairly obvious that Whedon has seen Cowboy Bebop, Outlaw Star, etc. It is a cool premise, but actually not original nor IMHO the best incarnation of such.

Cowboy Bebop -\> 10  
Firefly -\> 7  
Outlaw Star -\> 4

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2006, 9:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/6 "2006-03-01T09:00:39Z")

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I’ve seen Cowboy BeBop and while they have some things in common I don’t think Wheedon ripped it off. Ah well, for all you fans of Firefly and Cowbow BeBop.  
If you’re wondering how he eats and breaths /  
and other science facts. /

la la la /

Just repeat to yourself its just a show /  
I should really just relax! /

Marc

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2006, 9:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/7 "2006-03-01T09:07:53Z")

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There are dozens of giant robot anime, thousands of buddy cop films, hundreds of heist films, etc. but that doesn’t mean everyone is ripping everyone off. Just means the premises aren’t unique.

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**Author:** ![Phantom\_Dennis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/51bf81/32.png) [@Phantom\_Dennis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phantom_Dennis)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2006, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/8 "2006-03-01T10:36:42Z")

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Nowadays, “unique” means it’s only been done three or four times.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2006, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/9 "2006-03-01T11:31:53Z")

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Wikipedia lists several items for [Space Western](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_western); enough to lose uniqueness. Not sure what knowing that accomplishes.

Though if they’re going to include Trigun, I think you would be required to add in Eatman as well. (Which itself is then based a good bit on Leon/The Professional.)

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**Author:** ![Stark\_Raven\_Mad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Stark\_Raven\_Mad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stark_Raven_Mad)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2006, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/10 "2006-03-01T12:40:16Z")

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> [@June](#):
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> Firefly: the James Dean of TV shows.
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> Welcome aboard, **Stark**. Tell your friends. Spread the word.
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> I agree – the best thing about the show was its cast. How many people aboard Serenity? Nine? Not only are they all terrific actors, but they had great chemistry. The writers also did a terrific job of fleshing out the characters and making them interesting and believable.
> 
> Is there still a possibility that the show will be resurrected in some form, or have people pretty much given up hope by now?

Nine. I’m not so sure about the show’s prospects this long after the cancellation, but hey, even Futurama is engaged in talks for revival. I do hope they come back, though things might be a mite bit different after what happened in the film.

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**Author:** ![irishgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8edcca/32.png) [@irishgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irishgirl)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2006, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/11 "2006-03-01T13:52:32Z")

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I saw the movie. Then we bought the Firefly DVD. Then we saw the movie again.

Seriously, one of the best shows ever, it died far, far too young.

Let me know if the book is worth owning.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2006, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/12 "2006-03-01T14:48:43Z")

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Shiny. Welcome to the club. Now go convert others. 😃

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**Author:** ![2nd\_Law](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/f475e1/32.png) [@2nd\_Law](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2nd_Law)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2006, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/13 "2006-03-01T18:50:51Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Shiny. Welcome to the club. Now go convert others. 😃

Many others.

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“Can’t stop the signal” – Mr Universe

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2006, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/14 "2006-03-01T19:43:36Z")

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> [@Stark Raven Mad](#):
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> Nine. I’m not so sure about the show’s prospects this long after the cancellation, but hey, even Futurama is engaged in talks for revival. I do hope they come back, though things might be a mite bit different after what happened in the film.

Any word on that _Max Headroom_ revival? I know it’s been on nigh twenty years, but I’m still hoping…

_Firefly_–interesting premise, good writing, nontraditional (and thus, impossible for soulless corporate executives) marketing niche. I think the thing I like most about _Firefly_ (other than Jewel Staite) is the fact that, despite being a nominally space opera-type show, the writers don’t attempt to use some kind of technobabble particle-of-the-week solution to write themselves out of a corner; they actually, you know, have to plot and write and occasionally offer up a sacrifice. That, and the scene at the end of “The Train Job” where Capt. Reynolds listens to the threat of a henchman to hunt him down and extract vengence, then instead of letting him go out of the goodness of his heart or somesuch only to have to face him later, kicks him into the intake of the engine pod is priceless.

I can’t claim fawning adoration of it, but way-better-n-average for television and vastly better than the last few series of the various _Star Trek_ franchises that have been ambling around like the undead in a George Romero movie. I’m actually a little meh on _Serenity_–it pretty much reduced to your average shoot-em-up sci-fi flick, although still with better dialog. Again, in comparison to the video game-themed movies and the shiite that Paramount pumps out like it comes out of a cookie press, it’s vastly prefereable, but the show was superior in its development of characters and coherence of stories.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2006, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/15 "2006-03-01T21:34:31Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Shiny. Welcome to the club. Now go convert others. 😃

Just don’t be an ass about it like some people do when trying to win converts.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2006, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/16 "2006-03-01T23:20:30Z")

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> [@](#):
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> I can’t claim fawning adoration of it

Nor can I… But I _can_ claim fawning adoration of Kaylee. Preferably the series version, but I won’t complain about movie Kaylee, either. 😃

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**Author:** ![Ghanima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Ghanima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ghanima)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2006, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/17 "2006-03-01T23:29:14Z")

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_raises hand, stands up and clears throat_

My name’s Ghanima, and I’m a Firefly-aholic. Or at least getting there. Based on recommendations by people on this board, I bought the Serenity DVD without ever having seen it or a single full episode of Firefly. I thought it was excellent, so I bought the series. I’ve only watched three so far. But I’m s-a-v-o-r-i-n-g them.

Question: The DVD set has four DVDs, with the episodes out of order with respect to air date. Should I watch them in order of air date or in the order they are presented in? (So far I’ve watched according to air date.) I MUST know.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2006, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/18 "2006-03-01T23:30:32Z")

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Order **presented** in!!! You will find arguments for both sides, but I prefer the order Joss intended.

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**Author:** ![Lissla\_Lissar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@Lissla\_Lissar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lissla_Lissar)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2006, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/19 "2006-03-01T23:31:03Z")

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Watch them in the order they’re on the dvds. I think they make the most sense that way.

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**Author:** ![Ghanima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Ghanima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ghanima)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2006, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/20 "2006-03-01T23:42:19Z")

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OK, thanks guys. 🙂 I thought there must be a reason they were arranged like that. It’s a great show.

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